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Nov 30, 2008 - 5:07 PM
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Sean
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The original The Poseiden Adventure will always remain the single-best disaster movie of all time, as far as I'm concerned, because no one today appears to know how to write a movie like that (or Hollywood just doesn't want to make them) and because many of today's actors lack the depth of emotion and selflessness to allow their characters to be true to the moment. They're too busy trying to look handsome or give a certain intense stare. The remake of TPA was truly one of the biggest wastes of time and money, it turned out boring, and cost probably 1000 times more to make. One of the few films I actually didn't like Kurt Russell in.
And don't bring up Cameron's "Titanic" as a great disaster flick, please. It's one of the nicest-looking big-budget pieces of crap I've ever seen. I hated the majority of the acting and most of the writing. Effects-wise, it was absolutely phenomenal.
Amen regarding the original Poseidon. To date, and in particular, I stand in awe of the astonishing production design. Not only did the art directors have to recreate entire interiors of a luxury ocean liner, they also had to do it upside down. Before CGI. Cabaret won the Oscar for Art Direction, and while I don't begrudge the vote, the Poseidon contribution certainly deserved a much closer look.
As for Titanic, I respectfully disagree with regard to the visuals. Cameron's 3/4 mockup of the actual liner looked exactly like a 3/4 mockup of the actual liner. If the rest of that flatulence wasn't so soporific, I mightn't have cared, but it was the only thing worth looking at that dismally dull night in the back of Mann's Chinese, and it didn't pass muster. But we sure agree on the rest.
Peace
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As for Titanic, I respectfully disagree with regard to the visuals. Cameron's 3/4 mockup of the actual liner looked exactly like a 3/4 mockup of the actual liner.
You know what? You might be right. In recounting the film, I think the sets and attention to details are what made me enjoy it visually. As I recall, I hated the look of the bow cutting into the water and the wake splashing off the sides. I also remember a scene near the end, when the ship is lifting up, where someone strikes one of those large, iron anchor holds (maybe they're called something else) while sliding from the bow of the ship to the stern, and that solid iron thing bounces when contacted, as thought it's made of rubber. Having seen it at the theater, I'm sure the final sequences of the ship falling apart and sinking are what stayed in my mind and made me think of effects.
I think what I disliked most about Titanic was that I didn't care about anyone on the ship (except the band, the captain and a few scragglers) and the romance was very uninteresting and unreal. I would've preferred the ship sinking halfway through the film, then devoting the other half to people trapped inside the Titanic (inside air pockets or whatever) and experience what it must be like knowing you're thousands of feet beneath the sea and will never see the light of day again. How they interact with other short-time survivors and how they reflect on their own lives. I believe there was a potential for huge drama and sentiment if Cameron had explored that element of the story, since I'm sure there were SOME people that were alive as the ship came to rest on the seabed.
Flailing! Flailing!
Sorry, old sport, but you are.
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Ya know what I have to say to people who don't care about David Warner...?
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Lemme Tell Ya, Pally, Someone’s Alleged “Crap” Is Always Others’ Smashing Entertainment Department:
Wanna hear a real spot of cinematic heresy for all the elevated ones so quick to dismiss the kind of enterprise (not the starship) practically extinct nowadays? When it was first released, we found
a heckuva lot more fun than the concert film of Woodstock that was supposedly so relevant to the history and advance of civilization.
We side with Ron’s centered sentiments, especially about Our Man from Steubenville Ohio (whose children say he was particularly proud of his stint in this, holding his own with Lancaster and ending his mid-60s box-office supremacy with his last bona-fide blockbuster).
As for Maureen Stapleton, tho she did garner the Golden Guy for her fine Emma Goldman in “Reds”, she really ought to have snagged an earlier one for her anguished characterization herein where, by sheer force of emotional will, she took a nothing part and infused it with an integrity no one could’ve anticipated.
As for Helen Hayes, granted her sweet scenery-chewing might grate on some
but it belies the immense craft
contributing to her overall charm.
Actually, you could say it was the final box-office bouquet for producer Ross Hunter - to say nothing of Lancaster (this fell into his philosophy of “One for Them” – meaning the industry – as opposed to “One for Me” via his more personally-attracted vehicles). And leave us not forget George Kennedy’s crowd-pleasing, gung ho Joe Petroni, which is a textbook lesson how someone can simply slam one outta the park via the power of his powerful personality.
Sir M, Eric, SteJ and others’ insight aren’t to be overlooked, either since it IS this film (and no other) directly responsible for the “greatness” of that earlier version of, ergo, "The Poseidon Titanic" (in addition to its far superior sister with Newman and McQueen). And Mr. Newman’s energetic music is the fuel that allows this plane not only to take off, but stay that way.
Where was the action? Where was the excitement? Where was the suspense? Where was the human drama? Dull back stories
Rightttttt. Especially in comparison to the cinematic Tolstoyian substance of
Crap, u sey?
Compared to all that immaculate stuff Hollyweird’s spreading around nowadays? … 
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I guess I never did see Airport... What a piece of crap.
How could this have possibly won a single award? How could anyone possibly suggest that this movie had anything to do with the greatness of The Poseidon Adventure and the inspiration behind big diaster movies? This movie was sucked on all levels. I found George Kennedy to be the only interesting person on the screen, aside from a very young Jaqueline Bissett.
How on earth did Newman ever come up with such a boner of score? Not a single note ever did anything to help the action. It was the most consistently inappropriate music I've ever experienced in watching a film. To have it be so comical and aggressive during the inactive opening credits was just laughable and seemed like it would be better suited for Airplane! In fact, I think Airplane!'s score should be dubbed over Airport. It sounded a lot like Wargames, too.
Where was the action? Where was the excitement? Where was the suspense? Where was the human drama? Dull back stories, an endless series of shots depicting 15 men taking an eternity to shovel a 20x6-foot path in the snow, the ridiculously silly style of Dean Martin in a supposedly serious role... It should have been touted as a boring comedy, not an action-drama.
I think Airport '77 is where I started off with this franchise. Looking forward to watching it sometime this week. It was fun to see where Airplane! got all of its material.
That's the most pitiful opinion I've seen on this forum. Congrats, Cryogenix....braindead much?
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NP IN HONOR OF NEO'S post
AIRPORT- THE MORTON GOULD RECORDING
It is a great main title theme.
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Ya know what I have to say to people who don't care about David Warner...?
No...what does ya say?
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I thought it was a fun movie. Do you need anything else? We're not talking Bergmann or Kurosawa here. Just fun entertainment.
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which I suspect many of you must be if you truly like these celluloid turd.
Where did you learn how to write? In English, that is.
You are a dolt. 
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Dec 2, 2008 - 6:26 PM
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Cryogenix
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The Deer Hunter is another example of a poor film that got lots of awards. And for what? People back then must've really enjoyed watching 25 minutes of people dancing at a wedding. Or stupid, random scenes of men hunting or acting drunkenly stupid. Nice transition from the pool table to being in the thick of war... Absolutely idiotic! The film was pointless on many levels, had no intelligence, had great actors who produced fine performances, given the mediocre material they had to work with, and the whole movie seemed to hinge on the "one bullet" which made me take the DVD out of the player and snap it in half, it was so moronic. Okay, so I didn't break it, but I did toss it in the trash, alongside Kingdom of The Crystal Skull
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Keep talking. You are proving my point.
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Posted by STEVENJ - I read somewhere that Burt Lancaster thought it was a tremendously bad movie, he just did it for the dough.
Guess I'm not the only one who regards this as a huge, stinking pile of cinematic garbage movie alive. Pathetic.
I said nothing of the sort. I said that it struck me as a by the numbers melodrama when I saw it again. But after this thread and your insipid comments, I'm rethinking that notion.
You want to know what really makes me madder than hell? A little pissant you like you putting words into my mouth.
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Keep talking. You are proving my point.
It's amazing, isn't it! The more he types, the sillier and more ludicrous he gets.
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