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 Posted:   Dec 2, 2008 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

Just because you old farts like this kind of crap and were of the same age as these actors when they made the film,

Sorry, I think I was the age of Burt Lancaster's daughter (the younger one) when this movie was released.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2008 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Just because you old farts like this kind of crap and were of the same age as these actors when they made the film, doesn't automatically made it a magnificent film.....


I was thirty when I saw this film in 1970.

Burt Lancaster was 57.....
Dean Martin was 53.....
George Kennedy was 45.....
Helen Hayes was 70.....
Jean Seberg was 32.....
Jacqueline Bisset was 26.....
Van Heflin was 60.....
Maureen Stapleton was 45.....

(Average age of all 8 principals, approximately 48 years)



I was 32 when I saw THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE in 1972.

Gene Hackman was 42.....
Ernest Borgnine was 55.....
Red Buttons was 53.....
Carol Lynley was 30.....
Roddy McDowall was 44.....
Stella Stevens was 36.....
Shelley Winters was 52.....
Jack Albertson was 65.....

(Average Age of all 8 principals, approximately 47 years.)

Each film had its pluses and minuses, and I enjoyed each equally, though I'd give AIRPORT the nod for Direction and Performances.

I'd suggest to you that if you're a fan, primarily, of sinking-ship films, you might want to watch Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone in THE LAST VOYAGE.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2008 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Posted by STEVENJ - I read somewhere that Burt Lancaster thought it was a tremendously bad movie, he just did it for the dough.

I said nothing of the sort. I said that it struck me as a by the numbers melodrama when I saw it again. But after this thread and your insipid comments, I'm rethinking that notion.

You want to know what really makes me madder than hell? A little pissant you like you putting words into my mouth.mad


I've done nothing of the sort. That's precisely what you wrote four posts from the start of this thread. You might consider re-reading your own posts, that way you don't come off looking like an uncredible asshole who goes around wrongly accusing people.


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2008 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Posted by STEVENJ You want to know what really makes me madder than hell? A little pissant you like you putting words into my mouth.mad

Where'd you learn to write? In English, that is?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2008 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Posted by Ron Pulliam -
It's amazing, isn't it! The more he types, the sillier and more ludicrous he gets.


Could be intentional...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

Actually, Ally, You Echoed One of Our Unspoken Sentiments Department:

We felt Director George Seaton's utilization of the split-screen format was far more effective (as sheer, unadorned cohesive story-telling) than its other more-ostentatious predecessor, Norman Jewison's fractured application in "The Thomas Crown Affair".



And we daren't (tho we - collectively - inexplicably already have) be further remiss in not mentioning Edith Head's colorful costumes.



[ By the Bye, Sir M, Professionally-Personal Point of Pride Department: One of our most cherished kudos is a letter of appreciation we received from Miss Head for a forgotten Liz Taylor telefilm of the late 70s.

Outwardly shy (yet behind-the-scenes aggressively-ambitious dynamo) tho she was, we don't figger many were on the receiving end of a thoughtful and touching ode from her! ]



Yeah, you betcha bippie



we're proud of it! big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I love the film Airport and think it's a very well-made piece of popcorn entertainment.

I bought the box set some time ago and have watched the poor Airport 1975 and awful Airport '79 so far. I'm keeping the original (widescreen and surround sound*) for one of those evenings when I can open the red wine, put my feet up and just enjoy!

* I can't remember whether it's 5.1 or not

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Posted by Ron Pulliam -
It's amazing, isn't it! The more he types, the sillier and more ludicrous he gets.


Could be intentional...


I have had my suspicions to that end...!

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I love the film Airport and think it's a very well-made piece of popcorn entertainment.

I bought the box set some time ago and have watched the poor Airport 1975 and awful Airport '79 so far. I'm keeping the original (widescreen and surround sound*) for one of those evenings when I can open the red wine, put my feet up and just enjoy!

* I can't remember whether it's 5.1 or not



DTS!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

The (Universal) Money Shot Department:

The Decompression Scene.



And, altho she only had one more really mainstream Amurrican film left (part of the ridiculous menage-a-trois between Marvin and Eastwood in the lopsided "Paint Your Wagon") she



was still quite an attractive sight in this one.

RIP



As for the rest of you pros:



entities like youse are all but extinct anymore. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

... I'm keeping the original (widescreen and surround sound*) for one of those evenings when I can open the red wine, put my feet up and just enjoy!

* I can't remember whether it's 5.1 or not



DTS!!!!!

Agreed - I've just checked the box - a choice of either Dolby 5.1 or DTS.

I'm so glad my home cinema amp has the DTS option as I think it provides a sharper, clearer sound.

Is it just me or is DTS now used less than a few years ago (Reg.2 releases at any rate)? Very few, if any, of the big film releases of late give the option.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)






Wonder why George Kennedy looks so morose?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

Mebbe 'cause he's p.o. his agent didn't



have him seated in the second row behind the head-liners? ... wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

My parents lived in suburban Minneapolis (where I was born) at the time the movie was made and can remember the effort that was put into changing the facade entrance of Minneapolis International Airport to say "Lincoln International Airport" for the benefit of the location shooting was done there. They also remember when they were leaving on a family trip to CA in 1970 seeing the plane arrive with Dean Martin for the premiere which took place in Minneapolis.

I think the film is great in setting the tone for the best of the disaster films of the 70s. The sequels IMO are really bad with "Airport 77" passable only in its expanded TV version (the theatrical cut has a lot of important exposition missing). The Concorde is an embarrassing joke of a film, particularly with its ridiculous conceit of Kennedy opening the cockpit window to fire a gun yet amazingly there's no sudden decompression.

And let's not forget the many TV-movie knockoffs of this era which were also airplane disaster inspired! "SST: Disaster In The Sky" featuring the stars of as many recently cancelled TV shows as you could put in one plane (Doug McClure, Robert Reed, Martin Milner, Peter Graves, Lorne Greene, Tina Louise) AND give us Billy Crystal before "Soap" as a fey steward that the unknown John DeLancie threatens to deck at one point! "Airport" itself inspired many imitators but the original remains the best on all levels.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

Watched Airport '75 at lunch today. Nicely done. The music made sense (kind of reminded me of The Deep and Charlie's Angels [TV]) and was highly effective in easing tensions, creating anxiety and building drama, as well as hinting of tragedy to come way in advance.

The story flowed well, had nice structure and things felt far more dramatic and serious than in A70. I initially enjoyed the usage of split screen in the first film (until it got crazy and you'd see seven shots at once) and I was surprised it wasn't used at all in this picture. The only truly bad performances were by Helen Reddy as a nun, and Erik Estrada as a horny communications officer. The supporting cast consisted of believable (yet usually annoying) characters who you were rather indifferent about. Still didn't cling to anyone or care if they lived or died. The story and character development weren't deep or strong enough to establish that kind of sentiment. I'd love to see someone (try to) strum a guitar on a plane while passengers are trying to sleep. I can see why Airplane! exploited that scene. It was also cool to see more of the inspiration behind the spoofing. I'll really enjoy watching the Airplane! films after this.

Effects-wise, it was all pretty good, except for looking through the cockpit windows and seeing the twin-engine on a collision path and other related effects from that POV. And the co-pilot dummy being lifted (supposedly sucked) out of the hole in the fuselage. Looked worse than a poorly stuffed scarecrow. Kennedy's performance wasn't as grand or as interesting this time around. I'm guessing he held back so as not to overshadow Heston.

Interesting, too, watching the original, theatrical trailer, as it's so bloody long (and very, very, very boring) and filled with spoilers. Guess they didn't believe in holding anything back in those days.

I think my favorite was Airport '77, where the plane goes down in the Bermuda Triangle, if I recall. I think the one with the Concorde is the one I initially thought went down in the ocean and they tried to lift it with those yellow air bladders. In fact, I believe those yellow air bladders/balloons are what are used in A77. Really looking forward to that one.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


I think my favorite was Airport '77, where the plane goes down in the Bermuda Triangle, if I recall. I think the one with the Concorde is the one I initially thought went down in the ocean and they tried to lift it with those yellow air bladders. In fact, I believe those yellow air bladders/balloons are what used in A77. Really looking forward to that one.


Really interesting interplay in '77 between Christopher Lee and Lee Grant who plays his drunken and belligerent wife. I saw '77 just a few months ago and really enjoyed it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

AIRPORT '79: THE CONCORDE was one of 4 movies I saw on a theatre hopping day in the summer of 1979 and it was the worst of the bunch.

Please.

If I remember the dialog quote correctly, it goes like this:

Sylvia Kristel: You pilots are all such...MEN!

George Kennedy: Well they don't call it a "cockpit" for nothing!

Hi-larously bad.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

I would have to rank them from best to worst in this order:

1. Airport (1970)
2. Airport '77 (1977?)
3. Airport 1975 (actually 1974)
4. Concorde: Airport 1979 (1979)

When you get right down to it, the only movie where the majority of the action actually takes place IN an airport is Airport (1970).

They should have called the rest of the movies "Airplane"... wink

See on TV with additional footage, Airport 1979 makes a little more sense and plays slightly better...but it's still a dog.

And I have to agree with Cryo on the Helen Reddy bit in '75 - BAD!! The only saving grace for that scene is that it provided great material for spoofing in Airplane!

Plus, I would add poor Gloria Swanson (playing herself?!?) and poor Myrna Loy, drinking Sid Caesar under the table (Myrna: "whiskey...with a beer chaser." Sid: "You know that's a boilermaker?") Both had great incredible careers, and their last performances are in this clunker? frown

On the other hand, the aerial photography and stuntwork in '75 almost redeem this movie.

And the always solid Jack Lemmon taking a heroic dramatic turn is a plus for Airport '77.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

There were rumors floating around about 1980 that the ever scholcky Larry Cohen (of It's Alive! fame) was working on another Airport movie, this one dealing with UFO's.

I guess we'll never know what we missed.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2008 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Cryogenix   (Member)

When you get right down to it, the only movie where the majority of the action actually takes place IN an airport is Airport (1970).

LOL. Great observation (and perhaps the best piece of info in this whole thread), as I had overlooked the obvious. No wonder there's very little in-air drama in A70. The primary focus is what happens in and around the airport. Reflecting on that does give the movie greater sensibility. However, I'm not sure they exploited/highlighted/utilized the right elements of terminal life. I felt there was too much insignificant, trivial, uninteresting chit-chat and/or bickering about personal relationships to consider this a disaster flick. It played more like a romantic drama.

I'd say Alive is the best airplane disaster film in existence. Although I believe there may have been one made about the 1982 crash into the Potomac River. BTW, I haven't seen Flight 93, about 9/11, and I have no desire to.

 
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