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 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Now we dearly doubt anyone would seriously contest the incontrovertible fact – where
lasting seminal influence is concerned – the Golden Gent would haveta be for the
musical Rosetta Stone enshrined in the master-soundscape glistening from



As to that, our own personal choice would absolutely be for the sublime tapestry of



Still, where totality of inspired accomplishment seminally accrues, we’d haveta offer
this as the overall consummate choice:



And



yours? smile wink big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Best song - Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever
Best score - OHMSS, The Living Daylights

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

There is no doubt that the Bond franchise has had some outstanding music and certainly deserving of awards. John Barry set the standard for this kind of film. Oscars are overated and do not tell the real story. Just take a look over the years as to what has won an Oscar, and what hasn't even been nominated. Oscars are popularity, not true talent.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)

Generally quite true, but let's operate under the specific assumption you were doing so purely on the basis of foundational Talent ... then what would be your verdict?

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)



And just who was airbrushed out of this picture?

P.S. Best song, Goldfinger. Best score, OHMSS. Today.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Geoffers   (Member)

His score for OHMSS was outstanding and in another year could easily have won. As it was it failed to get a nomination (and neither did Midnight Cowboy that same year) but competition was hot:

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: Burt Bacharach (winner)
Anne of the Thousand Days: Georges Delerue
The Reivers: John Williams
The Secret of Santa Vittoria: Ernest Gold
The Wild Bunch: Jerry Fielding

So I would nominate OHMSS for score and for best song (at least four very strong contenders) I'd pick Goldfinger. I shall never understand why none of Barry's Bond songs got even a nomination.

I realise he's won 5 Oscars and others just as deserving have only one (like Goldsmith) but The Academy really ought to consider awarding him an Oscar for his contribution to the Bond films, particularly as it looks as though his film composing days are over.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Well, blimey, Stephen Young Sun, before you send any of the usual suspects our way,



twasn't us - honest!!! They don't have air-brushes in the matrix, didn't ya know that?!



So can we stick our head out the door now, purty please? wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)



Actually, Geoff, re the Honorary Oscar for his contributions whilst he was still in Bondage proposal,
you echo something we've long felt was hideously overdue.

With the supreme exception of Jerry Goldsmith's grand sculptural scoring for The Enterprise's various incarnations,



we can't come up with a more fitting recognition for John's definitive contribution to what's (still)
the longest and most successful film franchise in cinematic history.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I'm ashamed to say, I thought Dances with Wolves was his only Oscar win. embarrassment What were the others?

I agree, it's amazing none of his Bond scores were ever even nominated. One would think such great works as Goldfinger, Thunderball, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service would have been contenders.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   neotrinity   (Member)











Attention, ACADEMY: Guess who doesn't have "All the Time in the World"? Department. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Best Song - "Goldfinger"
Best Score - A tossup between "Goldfinger" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Generally quite true, but let's operate under the specific assumption you were doing so purely on the basis of foundational Talent ... then what would be your verdict?

Exceptionally tough choice but I'll keep to one song and one score despite wanting to name numerous entries.

Best score - ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE

I'll have to give the best song to the same score too.

The other song, We Have All The Time In The World ain't bad either wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

He DOESN'T have "All the Time in the World". frown

Absolutely...

It's hard to think of a Barry 007 score that didn't deserve a nomination, and (without taking into account the competition in each respective year) statuettes for Goldfinger, Thunderball and OHMSS could easily be standing on the rickety shelf in Barry's outside privvy.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I always found it bizarre that the non-Barry 007 scores and songs would get Oscar nods but not Barry's. Monty Norman must've had some "pull" among the composer's branch of the Academy.

Oh, I'd pick You Only Live Twice as the Oscar winner though I personally prefer Thunderball.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

If you went by which Barry Bond score has had the biggest and most lasting impact in the public mind, then GOLDFINGER would be the inevitable choice. It's not among my own top 3 Bond scores, but I think it is undeniably the one Bond soundtrack that the most people would be able to name (if they can name any at all) and would probably almost see as synonymous with "Bond music". OK, maybe among those my age or older. wink

And in addition, I think GOLDFINGER is the one that set the tone for Barry's following Bond scores.

If it was about which Barry Bond score was artistically best, I would tend towards YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.
Hell, the YOLT guitar alone deserves an Oscar in my book!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Doctor Plesman   (Member)

If you went by which Barry Bond score has had the biggest and most lasting impact in the public mind, then GOLDFINGER would be the inevitable choice. It's not among my own top 3 Bond scores, but I think it is undeniably the one Bond soundtrack that the most people would be able to name (if they can name any at all) and would probably almost see as synonymous with "Bond music". OK, maybe among those my age or older. wink

And in addition, I think GOLDFINGER is the one that set the tone for Barry's following Bond scores.

If it was about which Barry Bond score was artistically best, I would tend towards YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.
Hell, the YOLT guitar alone deserves an Oscar in my book!


I second that. And besides, "You Only Live Twice" is my all-time-favourite song. Ever. Pop and all other music included.

But also DIAMONDS and OHMSS are musically nearly on par with YOLT.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

None.

There's been some pretty good songs over the years, though. I love Paul McCartney's song (name escapes me at the moment) and Barry/a-ha's "The Living Daylights". "Goldfinger" is pretty cool too. Some of those could easily have won an Oscar.

While not Oscar-worthy, I think I'm the only one who really digs Tina Turner's "Goldeneye". I don't think that was written by Barry, though.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

.... I love Paul McCartney's song (name escapes me at the moment)

"live and let die"

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Goldfinger and O.H.M.S.S. are both highly competent and artistically important scores, so I'd pick one if not both of them.

I can't think of better scores from the respective years of 1964 and 1969.

Dan

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2011 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Goldeneye was written by U2's Bono & The Edge, okayish in a luke warm Barryesque way.

I love WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD, a true evergreen that will outlast all the other Bond songs, decades from now it'll still be a timeless classic.

 
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