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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Oscar Predictions and Other End of 2012 Lists by Scott Bettencourt
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Two things:

- Bradley Cooper over Joaquin Phoenix? Cooper basically played a variation of every other character he's ever played (yes, the Academy likes disabled characters but Cooper is simply far too unlikeable to bring humanity to anything he does) while Phoenix more or less lived, breathed and slept as his character.

- The Amazing Spider-Man over John Carter in Visual Effects? John Carter created a world audiences hadn't seen before while The Amazing Spider-Man brought absolutely nothing new to table (besides, Spider-Man 2 won an undeserved Best Visual Effects Oscar in 2004).

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

Killing Them Softly -- the lack of love for this fine film in the US was startling; nay, a disgrace. The critical establishment is rapidly losing all credibility; see also the kudos lavished on the dubious Zero Dark Thirty.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Killing Them Softly was one of the year's best films (why aren't there any Oscar talks for Mendelsohn or Liotta?) but audiences absolutely detested the film. However, watch it and The Master be hailed as classics in five years while films like Argo and Silver Linings Playbook are totally forgotten (one's a heavily distorted portrayal of facts, the other's a generic romantic comedy that only got love because it's from an edgy director).

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Killing Them Softly deserved props for Greig Fraser's exceptional cinematography (especially the hit at the intersection, the most beautiful death sequence of 2012). Aside from the clumsy, incessant political "subtext" shoved into every other scene, it's a brilliant film in my personal top ten for the year, and despite its commercial failure, will wear well in the years to come.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

- Bradley Cooper over Joaquin Phoenix? Cooper basically played a variation of every other character he's ever played (yes, the Academy likes disabled characters but Cooper is simply far too unlikeable to bring humanity to anything he does) while Phoenix more or less lived, breathed and slept as his character.

I'd rather watch Bradley Cooper (who I find immensely likeable) than Joaquin Phoenix. Always been something him that's turned me off.

- The Amazing Spider-Man over John Carter in Visual Effects? John Carter created a world audiences hadn't seen before while The Amazing Spider-Man brought absolutely nothing new to table (besides, Spider-Man 2 won an undeserved Best Visual Effects Oscar in 2004).

Agreed. John Carter was a terrific visual feast and had some of the best CGI I've seen in recent years.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

- SUPPORTING ACTOR - Ezra Miller, THE PERKS OF BEING A WALLFLOWER Dare to dream. He was phenomenal in that movie (which ought to be required viewing for anyone who felt like an outcast in high school...so about 90%).

- ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY - Looper How to be diplomatic about this...if the Academy is seeking to recognize the first halves of movies, then this choice is justified.

- ADAPTED SCREENPLAY - Bachelorette I can sort of see why the film would turn people off, but I quite liked it. Very underrated.

- ANIMATED FEATURE Substitute FRANKENWEENIE with BRAVE and that's pretty much what I'd pick.

- Nice to see recognition for Shapiro's THE CAMPAIGN and Mark Mothersbaugh's scores (was this a banner year for the man or what?).

- Much to my shame (that I wasn't sure existed until I saw your list), I saw four of your ten worst in a theater*. 'Twould be nice to hear you expound on this selection (hint, hint).

- Mr. Jack, I totally agree about Greig Fraser's cinematography for KILLING THEM SOFTLY (which I liked, but didn't quite love). Stunning.

* - It was only hours after I got home from seeing THE COLD LIGHT OF DAY that I learned that the film was on YouTube for free. C'est la vie.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2012 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Looper is another movie that will be forgotten in five years once audiences realize it's nothing more than a B-movie with a pretty filter. Rian Johnson needs to earn his fans by doing something original instead of using cheap tricks to get them.

And on your worst list: Butter was a film that could have worked but failed by focusing on the wrong plot. Had it been about the stripper and the orphan, it could have been a great little movie on unlikely relationships (think Bad Santa with a gender reversal). But instead, they had to focus on the annoying middle America couple with skewed priorities and politics.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   itstownerman   (Member)

Why Scott your predictions look awful familiar to The Hollywood Reporter's own...Scott Feinberg...maybe you two are the same? lol

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Why Scott your predictions look awful familiar to The Hollywood Reporter's own...Scott Feinberg...maybe you two are the same? lol

Nope. It's probably just that this year's seem like a pretty obvious bunch -- the biggest questions for me seem to be how many Best Picture nominations there'll be, whether Silver Linings Playbook's disappointing box-office (despite the rave reviews and hot stars) will hurt it, and whether Django can overcome its trashiness/controversialness and get major nominations.

Still hoping that The Impossible and Looper get nominated for at least one award (Looper is one of the short-listed 7 for Makeup).

Glad to see the love for Killing Them Softly; for me, even the political content doesn't detract, and dovetails nicely in Pitt's final lines. One commenter on another film blog wrote something like "They should have just filmed the damn book," which seems a little odd to me, because despite the title and year change, Killing Them Softly's one of the most word-for-word close adaptations I've ever seen.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Never a fan of Actor Matthew McConaughey, he changed my mind this year with three, (to me), amazing performances. Two I really liked and the third one, not too much. What I didn't care for was 'Magic Mike', mainly the film which was dreadful but the best thing in it was McConaughey. He was better in 'Bernie' which was quite wonderful. And then there was Friedkin's 'Killer Joe' (Unrated version) which was a mess, though it was entertaining. McConaughey should be nominated for his genuinely terrifying and hypnotic performance in 'Killer Joe'.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

I agree about McConaughey. For years he'd seemed like just one of those charismatic performers who can pretty much only just play themselves (assuming that his breakthrough role in Dazed & Confused was basically himself), but besides being perfectly cast in Magic Mike (he's even eligible for Best Song!), he was outstanding in Bernie and even better in Killer Joe. (He's also good in The Paperboy, but the less said about that film the better, except that throughout the film he has these small facial scars that were one of the most subtle but convincing makeup jobs I'd ever seen).

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

Loved those Main Title credits for SKYFALL, but boy did the film go downhill from there. What a letdown after all the over-the-top rave reviews. It's not that it's a bad film, but compared to its critical reception .. well, I just don't get it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2012 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

I don't even trust critics anymore. Most of them are just fanboys who either give the most overhyped movies good reviews or get paid to do so.

Sometimes, the Internet can be a bad thing and this Harry Knowles-styled journalism is a good example of that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

Wow, did you dislike ZERO DARK THIRTY that much Scott? Not a single personal vote for a nomination!

As for Meryl Streep getting a best actress nomination for HOPE SPRINGS, maybe if Hell freezes over. Doubtful if Mirren will squeak in either. Those two spots are reserved for Riva and Watts.

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Wow, did you dislike ZERO DARK THIRTY that much Scott? Not a single personal vote for a nomination!

As for Meryl Streep getting a best actress nomination for HOPE SPRINGS, maybe if Hell freezes over. Doubtful if Mirren will squeak in either. Those two spots are reserved for Riva and Watts.


I actually thought Zero Dark Thirty was very good, I plan to see it again in a month or so, and I'll be happy to see it receive major nominations (I certainly preferred it to Argo, everyone else's favorite film of the year, which was perfectly fine and skilled and ultimately forgettable). I just tend to list the films I'm personally fonder of for my own nominations, which this year were the likes of Looper, Dark Knight, Wallflower, Impossible, and so forth (I enjoyed Django so much that I plan to see it a second time tomorrow, but I don't think I nominated that for anything on my personal list). Zero Dark Thirty doesn't need any votes from me, it already has enough supporters (unlike The Impossible).

I hope you're right about Riva and especially Watts; Streep could certainly use a year off from nominations, especially after her third Oscar, and I wouldn't put Springs up there with her top performances of the last decade or two (which for me were Bridges of Madison County, One True Thing and The Devil Wears Prada).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

Streep could certainly use a year off from nominations, especially after her third Oscar

I think Streep will get a breather this year. But she has a new film coming out in late 2013, AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY that will most likely put her back in the ring. It's based on a Tony award winning Pulitzer Prize winning play and has Oscar written all over it. Streep plays the drug addicted matriarch of a dysfunctional family including daughter Julia Roberts. Ewan McGregor, Sam Shepard, Chris Cooper and Juliette Lewis are in it too.

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Despite its Pulitzer win, Tracy Letts' plays aren't for everyone (the adaptations of Bug and Killer Joe reflected this as the former was detested by audiences expecting a horror film while the latter never went wide due to the NC-17 rating) and August: Osage County will need to find a large audience to be a big Oscar contender. Reviews will be strong but it's a film with limited appeal.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

August: Osage County will need to find a large audience to be a big Oscar contender. Reviews will be strong but it's a film with limited appeal.

I don't know. THE HURT LOCKER never really found an audience. It's the lowest grossing best picture Oscar winner in the last few decades which is why Sony is handling ZERO DARK THIRTY with kid gloves, opening it only in New York and L.A. to get the benefit of critical praise, critics awards and eventually Oscar nominations before opening wide to the rest of the country.

With the powerhouse punch of Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts in the lead roles, A: OC should get butts into seats (unless the reviews are awful which is unlikely).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)


Wouldn't it be fitting and a show to the world how 'classy' The Academy can be if it were a sweep of the top tier (at least for nominations) for:

'AMOUR' - Best Film

'AMOUR' - Best Foreign Film

'AMOUR' - Best Director, Michael Haneke

'AMOUR' - Best Actress, Emmanuelle Riva

and, 'AMOUR - Best Actor, Jean-Louis Trintignant




 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2012 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Wouldn't it be fitting and a show to the world how 'classy' The Academy can be if it were a sweep of the top tier (at least for nominations) for:

'AMOUR' - Best Film

'AMOUR' - Best Foreign Film

'AMOUR' - Best Director, Michael Haneke

'AMOUR' - Best Actress, Emmanuelle Riva

and, 'AMOUR - Best Actor, Jean-Louis Trintignant


Considering how frequently it's alleged that Academy members tend to be of the older generation (older than me even, which is saying a lot these days), I don't see Amour as presenting the kind of comforting view of old age that would sit well with them. The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel or Quartet are much more likely to find favor, though I'd be happily surprised by major nominations for Amour.

 
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