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 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Juan Carlos García Cortés   (Member)

May be someone here is interested in this:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003614822/ponomusic-where-your-soul-rediscovers-music

Nice video with a lot of musicians speaking about the advantages of loseless digital music versus mp3

Cheers!

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Independent has run a story. And there's feedback.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/neil-young-reaches-kickstarter-target-to-fund-new-music-player-within-a-day-9187151.html

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2014 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Very intriguing, though I'd have liked to have heard opinions from a few classical musicians, rather than a bunch of aging rockers (most of whom certainly have significant hearing loss by this point).

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

Like classical musicians don't suffer hear-loss? Many in fact do due to playing in an orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Zambra Alex   (Member)

Is it going to be another idea like the DVD-A that never really caught on?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Is it going to be another idea like the DVD-A that never really caught on?



At $400 for a player that looks like a Toberlone and up to $25 for a download, it does seem doomed. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Like classical musicians don't suffer hear-loss? Many in fact do due to playing in an orchestra.

Orchestras -- even for the players sitting in them -- are nowhere near as loud as the amps and monitors used in pop and rock concerts.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

Yet many performers do suffer hearing problems at a later age because of the loudness of an orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Yet many performers do suffer hearing problems at a later age because of the loudness of an orchestra.

Not just music performers...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

What kind of pants do you have to wear to fit this thing in your pocket?

I already have a lossless music player - it's my iPhone!

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2014 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Elmo Bernstein   (Member)

Here's an article about the Pono that raises some good points.

http://gizmodo.com/what-is-high-resolution-audio-1252637824/1541582373/+marioaguilar

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I might get excited by this if it wasn't another person pushing for insane 24 bit audio. It is unnecessary and effort that could be instead pushed towards getting people to appreciate ordinary FLAC files. We don't really need all these insane 24 bit files regardless of how insane you push it.

I do on the other hand like the idea of a stand-alone music player and like the return to the old days when you could actually buy one. I still use a zune because I can fit 80 gigs of music on it and I can have a device that is completely separate battery-wise than my e-reader, phone, and tablet. There are so many other things I use the other devices for that having a separate music device is useful for long trips, whether a road trip or international flight. My tablet is often filled with video files for watching that drain its battery pretty fast. Though I can and do occasionally play music on other devices I find a separate device a good idea. I'm just not sure if I want to spend $400 for one.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 3:07 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

There still is such a device. It's called the iPod Classic. I can play lossless files and is a lot cheaper then a Pono.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

There still is such a device. It's called the iPod Classic. I can play lossless files and is a lot cheaper then a Pono.

It can play them but it's not engineered to deliver that caliber of quality to one's ears! Or that's what I hear. big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 3:46 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

There still is such a device. It's called the iPod Classic. I can play lossless files and is a lot cheaper then a Pono.

It can play them but it's not engineered to deliver that caliber of quality to one's ears! Or that's what I hear. big grin



It all comes down to what hardware this Pono-thing will use. It has been surprisingly quit at that front. The only two things that really matter sound wise is the DAC and the amplifier. Apple's DAC is probably the best mainstream portable solution in the market right now. It's amplifier can be improved on with stuff like a FiiO amp or an iCAN.

The real news is probably that the Pono also comes with a new store to buy hi-res music. But that's hardly new. I've bought a couple of albums through the Bowers & Wilkins-store at 24-bit FLAC and though they sound terrific, even with my iPhone and a B&W P5, it's not *that* a big step up from "regular" cd-quality recordings IMHO.

Then again, I guess the real trick in great sounding recordings, is probably the alignment of mastering the recording to the equipment which will be used for the playback. So if Pono is trying to create some sort of closed system from recording to playback, they might have a great sounding product. But only within their system. It won't mean it'll automatically sound better everywhere.

Either way, I don't think I'm gonna carry an extra device with me for music with iPhone+Lossless+P5 performing as it does. Especially not an un-ergonomicly designed one as the Pono. As for home listing, lossless files on my Mac streamed through Apple-tv sound excellent. Let's hope you will be able music tom the Pono-shop without subjecting yourself to their eco-system.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Are there other players around with microSD ports? That's one feature I do like -- I'd much rather have a library of microSD cards that this business now where I have to delete stuff from my iPod every time I want to add new stuff.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2014 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

There still is such a device. It's called the iPod Classic. I can play lossless files and is a lot cheaper then a Pono.

Yeah, too bad I never liked the interface on iPods. I will hold on to my Zune for as long as possible.

 
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