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 Posted:   May 6, 2014 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I watched this wonderful movie again and of course pulled the score out for another listen. This is such a favorite of mine. Billy Campbell played such an endearing character. I recall seeing him in the movie "Enough" and thinking how could such a sweet guy play such a despicable POS. I never tire of the movie or the score.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2014 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   David Ferstat   (Member)

Whatever you say about James Horner (and who doesn't smile ) The Rocketeer is ample proof that he can produce beautiful and appropriate music when required.

His main theme for this film is stirring and romantic, an captures the feel of the film wonderfully. Yes, he does use some of his generic action music in the film, which is harder to forgive, but it still works.

This is a score way overdue for a complete release. Pity it's Disney.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I watched this wonderful movie again and of course pulled the score out for another listen. This is such a favorite of mine. Billy Campbell played such an endearing character. I recall seeing him in the movie "Enough" and thinking how could such a sweet guy play such a despicable POS. I never tire of the movie or the score.


I've loved the movie since opening day, what a wonderful, nostalgic adventure. Billy Campbell was just fine as the everyday gee-whiz kind of normal guy who becomes The Rocketeer ( or to quote Jennifer Connelly "the Rock-a-who?" ). And what a supporting cast, O'Quinn, Arkin, Lauter, Dalton - everyone was great !

The score is fabulous, one of my all time favorite Horner scores. In addition to the theme and that huge climactic cue, I love that long suspense cue for the showdown at Griffith Park. It IS way way overdue for an expanded release.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

While I'm all for expanded releases most of the good music is already available. The only extra cue that I would love to get is Lucky Lindy. The score does so much for the film. It's one of the reasons recent summer blockbusters bore me to tears. When the Rocketeer took flight it was majestic and awe inspiring, when the Falcon took flight in Winter Soldier it was yawn inducing.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Gary Mongiovi   (Member)

It's my favorite Horner score--that and Legends of the Fall are probably the only two of his that I could never bear to part with. The movie was great fun, and Alan Arkin was wonderful.

Gary

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

While I’m certainly not going to say no to an expanded Rocketeer (I want the music for the FBI guys), the original CD is beautifully representative.

When the Rocketeer took flight it was majestic and awe inspiring, when the Falcon took flight in Winter Soldier it was yawn inducing.
I’m going to disagree, but only on that specific example. (You can pick LOTS of others that I’d be totally on board with.) By the time Falcon puts on his wings I’ve bought into the character. I don’t love it just because it’s eye candy. If it was, you’re right, I’d be bored to death. But, like Cliff Secord, I’m invested in the character at this point.

I wonder why I (and others) love this score so much. It’s not like I hadn’t heard Horner’s bag of tricks at this point. My brother and I giggled at the end credits when Horner quit writing and just threw in the Wrath of Khan finale. But 23 (!) years later I’m inclined to call this one of Horner’s finest scores.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My brother and I giggled at the end credits when Horner quit writing and just threw in the Wrath of Khan finale.

That's the one point in time when I rolled my eyes with a "you got to be kidding me" thought running through my head!

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

My brother and I giggled at the end credits when Horner quit writing and just threw in the Wrath of Khan finale.

That's the one point in time when I rolled my eyes with a "you got to be kidding me" thought running through my head!


Yeah that's true. But I would rather have that ending than the lingering soft cords endings he has done. It's almost as though someone stepped up to podium and told him "James the end credits are 8 minutes long not 7." So he s t r e t c h e s it.
Be that as it may, the score is wildly entertaining. Shows how much fun Horner can be.
The movie itself I barely remember. I do recall a very lovely Jennifer Connally.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My brother and I giggled at the end credits when Horner quit writing and just threw in the Wrath of Khan finale.

That's the one point in time when I rolled my eyes with a "you got to be kidding me" thought running through my head!


Yeah that's true. But I would rather have that ending than the lingering soft cords endings he has done. It's almost as though someone stepped up to podium and told him "James the end credits are 8 minutes long not 7." So he s t r e t c h e s it.
Be that as it may, the score is wildly entertaining. Shows how much fun Horner can be.
The movie itself I barely remember. I do recall a very lovely Jennifer Connally.


Agreed, hate those looooong drawn out endings.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

It is rather hybrid of Krull and STII, but a robust and good score nonetheless.

And many a superhero movie these days could take a lesson from the movie, it does not have that bigger - bigger and second and third and fourth endings thing like they do now. Joe Johnston made two good pictures in Rocketeer and in Captain America.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I haven't seen the rocketeer since we rented it pre-dvd era, wonder how well it holds up today. Like the score a lot and enjoyed hearing part of it in Vienna during the Horner concert.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

While I'm all for expanded releases most of the good music is already available. The only extra cue that I would love to get is Lucky Lindy. The score does so much for the film. It's one of the reasons recent summer blockbusters bore me to tears. When the Rocketeer took flight it was majestic and awe inspiring, when the Falcon took flight in Winter Soldier it was yawn inducing.

This. I'm not the biggest Horner fan in the world (although I was one of his earliest champions), but The Rocketeer is, IMHO, the very epitome of what a fantasy/adventure music should be with it's strong identifiable themes woven and varied in and out of the fabric of the score.
Once upon a time, not that long ago, summer blockbusters were graced with this kind of musical accompaniment.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I haven't seen the film in ages, but the score is one of my favourites by Horner, and in my opinion one of the best (super)hero scores of all time.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I do recall a very lovely Jennifer Connelly.

Oh yeah... big grin



Funny this conversation popping up now, as I just got the film on Blu-Ray last week. Lots of fun, and Horner's score is splendid.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2014 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

When the Rocketeer took flight it was majestic and awe inspiring, when the Falcon took flight in Winter Soldier it was yawn inducing.

Do you really think the difference there is just the music? Seems to me the approach to music in both films reflects the overall tonal difference in the way the story is presented. I agree, the Falcon flight was boring, because it was tossed off as just one more surprising thing before they moved on to the next one. I have no knowledge of the Marvel universe besides what's in these movies, so I was surprised when he could fly, but I didn't care, not because of the music (though again, that's part of the overall approach) but because the filmmakers treated it like just another thing that happens in that world. They didn't care, so I didn't.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Blastr ran a piece today on "The Rocketeer" which included a great vintage Horner interview that I hadn't seen before. Worth checking out for any fans:

http://www.blastr.com/2014-11-14/watch-composer-james-horner-talk-rocketeers-iconic-score-1991-interview

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2023 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

Melora Hardin's "Begin the Beguine" from THE ROCKETEER.


LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bosLXZ_LdI0

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2023 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Melora Hardin's "Begin the Beguine" from THE ROCKETEER.

I like the film, it's a very good super hero film with a good cast all around and it looks sumptious, but have two issues with it:
1) They wrecked old cars, which is unforgivable (and many times a sign of doubt the makers have in the quality of their product).
2) Never really liked the songs in the film. The arrangment is alright but I get irritated by the vocals. It's a very thin voice that can't hold a tone too well. Most of all I find the way of singing annoying; a way that is anachronistic for time in which it is set.
Unfortunately that complaint applies to most films; they can't replicate that what makes an era so typical and resort to very obvious tricks (e.g. incorrect behaviour/ language, bad wigs, bad colouring and bad music renderings).

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2023 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

DISCO STU:

The first time I heard Melora Hardin's vocal, I thought her voice should have been fuller.
I have the 2020 version of the cd and am disappointed that Melora Hardin's vocal sounds so distant compared to rest of the score which has a louder sound.

The more I watched the movie, the more I liked it. Now it's one of my favorites.

 
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