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 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


The old cameramen (pre-1960s) hated grain and were always trying to shoot and expose films in a way which eliminated it as best they could, or at least made it more negligible.


That needs to be constantly repeated to the grain-loving zealots who like to think that grain was often an artistic choice. Nowadays it seems that no Blu-ray review is complete unless it discusses what the grain looks like!

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

These grain junkies will be sorely disappointed in the 30fps Todd-AO version of OKLAHOMA! on Blu-ray. Smooth as silk!

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

.....I am thinking of replanting my 1st PATTON with the newer one.....

Be sure to water them both carefully, and give them a little plant food in the spring..... smile



LOL and more shade and little less sunlight!

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)


The old cameramen (pre-1960s) hated grain and were always trying to shoot and expose films in a way which eliminated it as best they could, or at least made it more negligible.


That needs to be constantly repeated to the grain-loving zealots who like to think that grain was often an artistic choice. Nowadays it seems that no Blu-ray review is complete unless it discusses what the grain looks like!


Damn right! I worked in a movie film lab for over twenty years, & if you saw any grain it would mean that something had gone wrong, usually the film under/over exposed by 2-3 stops. And all the thousands of films I saw at the cinema, I don't remember seeing any grain. But the grain lovers on the net just love seeing grain, & if they can't see it, something is very wrong. Normally they use an interpose to transfer from, very little grain there, & if the interpose isn't a newly struck one, it'll have the original grading. It's when they go back to the original negative, which should be good news, you get all that detail that no one has ever seen before, but you also get grain. The grain should be dealt with, tastefully, not overdoing it, you may lose a bit of that fine detail, but you could ague that you shouldn't be seeing it anyway. But it's not all gloom & doom, most Blu-rays look fantastic, & you can always read reports on the net before you buy. I had a quick look at the new Arrow Blu-ray, The Pit & The Pendulum yesterday, & I thought it looks superb, probably better than it looked at the cinema when I saw it a couple of lifetimes ago.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"THE DARK KNIGHT RISES"' Blu-Ray changes aspect ratio *constantly* throughout the film, from approximately 2.35:1 to whatever ratio is used for IMAX presentation, whereas the DVD shows the film straight as 2.35:1. Needless to say, many viewers (like me) find the Blu-Ray's constantly changing aspect ratio to be extremely annoying.

Tron Legacy does the same thing. Totally asinine thing to do.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


The old cameramen (pre-1960s) hated grain and were always trying to shoot and expose films in a way which eliminated it as best they could, or at least made it more negligible.


That needs to be constantly repeated to the grain-loving zealots who like to think that grain was often an artistic choice. Nowadays it seems that no Blu-ray review is complete unless it discusses what the grain looks like!


This cannot be said enough!

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

"THE DARK KNIGHT RISES"' Blu-Ray changes aspect ratio *constantly* throughout the film, from approximately 2.35:1 to whatever ratio is used for IMAX presentation, whereas the DVD shows the film straight as 2.35:1. Needless to say, many viewers (like me) find the Blu-Ray's constantly changing aspect ratio to be extremely annoying.

Tron Legacy does the same thing. Totally asinine thing to do.


Why is this asinine? It's the aspect ratios the directors intended those scenes to be viewed in.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"THE DARK KNIGHT RISES"' Blu-Ray changes aspect ratio *constantly* throughout the film, from approximately 2.35:1 to whatever ratio is used for IMAX presentation, whereas the DVD shows the film straight as 2.35:1. Needless to say, many viewers (like me) find the Blu-Ray's constantly changing aspect ratio to be extremely annoying.

Tron Legacy does the same thing. Totally asinine thing to do.


Why is this asinine? It's the aspect ratios the directors intended those scenes to be viewed in.


The whole gimmick is asinine. Worse when your trying to watch it on home video. It's like your little kid got a hold of the remote control and keeps changing aspect ratios while your trying to watch a film. Why not invent theater seats that move backwards and forwards? That would be fun too. No it wouldn't.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2014 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I spotted a title on Amazon that I didn't have, loved the film, it was Blu Ray, and it was only $8.00. 'It Could Happen to You' with Bridget Fonda and Nicholas Cage. So I went to my new 'best friend', BluRayDOTcom blog and put in the title. This must be why it's only $8.00 for the BluRay, it has the single lowest individual rating of any title I've yet looked up to see it's picture and audio specs. The descriptions by the reviewers were truly dreadful, why do studios just seemingly 'throw' a title onto blu ray without any basic upgrade; maybe they don't want to spend a single dollar more on an old title?

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2014 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I spotted a title on Amazon that I didn't have, loved the film, it was Blu Ray, and it was only $8.00. 'It Could Happen to You' with Bridget Fonda and Nicholas Cage. So I went to my new 'best friend', BluRayDOTcom blog and put in the title. This must be why it's only $8.00 for the BluRay, it has the single lowest individual rating of any title I've yet looked up to see it's picture and audio specs. The descriptions by the reviewers were truly dreadful, why do studios just seemingly 'throw' a title onto blu ray without any basic upgrade; maybe they don't want to spend a single dollar more on an old title?

Same thing happened when we went from VHS to DVD. A lot of old movies were simply transferred from the VHS master and dumped onto a DVD. Putting a bad master onto a DVD didn't make it better. It was a pointless upgrade.

 
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