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 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I'm sure they were making really good money too.

What a dick. Kind of felt bad for Gene.

Roger started it.

Rest in Peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmnYCSwt2Js


This new Documentary "LIFE ITSELF" looks pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ud1HUHgug

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Gene always made fun of Rogers weight. Both were dicks apparently. Though highly entertaining. Besides what famous duo didn't hate each others guts?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I always enjoyed there bantering for sure when it got heated up. It was fun a part of my life, for a half hour on a Saturday night, in between doing things.They made many fine points and although like everyone else I surely didn't always agree with there viewpoints, they were cool. I miss them in a way. As one guy said when I see a movie now I think what does 2 guys would have thought about it. The new Godzilla movie. GENE SISKEL DIED TRAGICALLY YOUNG.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I remember first watching them on PBS Sneak Previews and that was back in 1975 or there about. Used to think of them as the fat guy and the skinny guy. Always thought Siskel came off kind of snobby and Ebert seemed a little more in tune to what I would like. They both to me back then came off as reviewers that really dug Independent type and Art House movies, that I always thought were snobbish and boring. They kind of mellowed as the years went on and became a fixture to watch in all their different show incarnations.

Sorry they are both no longer with us and how sad to think how they died. They deserved better!

Miss them.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm sure they were making really good money too.

What a dick. Kind of felt bad for Gene.

Roger started it.

Rest in Peace.



I liked your post better when you called them dicks and *then* said "rest in peace." lol

I think the "hostile" banter was part of their dynamic and should be seen as such though Gene sounds sloshed!

I remember when we used to have conversations like the one they're having in the video here at the olde (slow-ass) FSM Boarde. wink

Good quality zooba-post fare.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Here's more from that most memorable session, where the two rip each other new ones...but lovingly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwVz_jK3gA

Hilarious.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

What was up his butt on any given day? Actually it wouldn't have been too hard to examine since he wore it on his shoulders so often.
I actually did enjoy their antics from time to time, but I never used their reviews to determine whether or not I went to a film, nor to influence my like or dislike of a film. Who appointed them as experts, anyway? smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

What was up his butt on any given day? Actually it wouldn't have been too hard to examine since he wore it on his shoulders so often.


In which reviews did Ebert (or Siskel) "get it wrong" for you?

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

What was up his butt on any given day? Actually it wouldn't have been too hard to examine since he wore it on his shoulders so often.


In which reviews did Ebert (or Siskel) "get it wrong" for you?


I don't think I said they got it wrong. I just never put that much weight in their reviews. If I enjoy a film that critics hate, so be it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This should really teach people not to confuse the on camera personality with the real person.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

This should really teach people not to confuse the on camera personality with the real person.

Was there a difference for either in on camera or the real person?

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This should really teach people not to confuse the on camera personality with the real person.

Was there a difference for either in on camera or the real person?


Based on those outtakes yes! Not judging just saying.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Based on those outtakes yes! Not judging just saying.

You're probably right. And I do get it that many entertainers have on-camera personas etc., that may be quite different from what they are like at home; it's sometimes a part of how they create their audience.
But I also think that some on-camera behaviors reflect truths about aspects of the real person as well and sometimes it comes through quite clearly. Also not judging, just inspecting fruit. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Based on those outtakes yes! Not judging just saying.

You're probably right. And I do get it that many entertainers have on-camera personas etc., that may be quite different from what they are like at home; it's sometimes a part of how they create their audience.
But I also think that some on-camera behaviors reflect truths about aspects of the real person as well and sometimes it comes through quite clearly. Also not judging, just inspecting fruit. smile


They certainly carried over their love hate relationship into real life. But I found their behavior between takes on the level of grade school children, and not professional at all. Still funny as hell! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

They certainly carried over their love hate relationship into real life. But I found their behavior between takes on the level of grade school children, and not professional at all. Still funny as hell! big grin

Agreed. How much of that back-and-forth was just them competing for all the attention.
And, who knows, maybe I've been guilty of confusing passion for dicktitude. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Before men became so "Metrosexual", we used to relentlessly rip on each other, like one big Howard Hawks or John Sturges or Sam Peckinpah film. That is all Gene and Roger were doing, I'm sure.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Before men became so "Metrosexual", we used to relentlessly rip on each other, like one big Howard Hawks or John Sturges or Sam Peckinpah film. That is all Gene and Roger were doing, I'm sure.

Jim, thanks, that is truly inspired; I’m serious! I don’t know your age, I’m LIX and grew up in a time when if two guys were talking it could be cordial and even gratifying, yet let another guy walk up and suddenly it becomes just what you’ve stated. The verbal knives would come out; not necessarily outright hostility, but oneupsmanship, putdowns, etc., and general macho displays.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Thanks. I'll be 43 in August. smile Perhaps men of a younger generation still "take the mickey" out of one another but it was a regular occurrence and still is among those of men of my generation as my colleagues at work and I have this kind of banter. I don't see how Gene and Roger's put downs of one another can be seen any other way. I never saw this as displays of macho but rather genuine expressions of affection.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Before men became so "Metrosexual", we used to relentlessly rip on each other, like one big Howard Hawks or John Sturges or Sam Peckinpah film. That is all Gene and Roger were doing, I'm sure.

Good point.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The fact that this is a Siskel & Ebert thread reminds me of something that happened over thirty years ago (and no, this story is NOT about me):

When I was a kid, around ten or so, the elder brother (five years older than me) of a close friend of mine, named Robert, who had a severe stutter and suffered from taunts from many a rotten kid in those days; I think the stutter came from being abused by his father who had long since left the family. Anyway, he absolutely loved movies and never missed an episode of "S&E" every Saturday night on PBS. He used to clip the movie ads from the "Lifestyle" section of the newspaper and put them in a scrapbook he made for each year. He also took the time to write down the date, film, and Gene and Roger's Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down of each movie. This kid adored S&E and he was always excited about the movies and would do his own reviews. This kid, named Robert, really found his true love with this budding movie critic interest.

Just as Robert started high school I was over at their house to visit, my friend told me that his mother told Robert he had to throw his movie scrapbooks in the trash because now that he was starting high school, he had to let go of his "childish" interests. Robert was devastated. Just destroyed. The strange thing is at the time I wasn't affected by this except that I never forgot it. Now, whenever I think about Siskel & Ebert, I remember Robert and it upsets me deeply how parents, seemingly doing the "right" thing for their kids, end up being the destroyers of their hopes and dreams.

Robert obviously never became a film critic or anything else really. The last I heard he was working as a bus boy in a restaurant. I haven't spoken to him in decades but the last time I did he was enthusiastic about the then-upcoming Harrison Ford film, Regarding Henry, so he still loved and was excited about movies. smile

 
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