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 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Someone I know doesn't care for old movies mostly (he hasn't said yet how old is "old").

I want to recommend an old one to him based on the fact that he did see and enjoy TWELVE ANGRY MEN (1957) and CITIZEN KANE (1941).

I've never seen the former, and am stumped to recommend anything quite like the latter, except perhaps TOUCH OF EVIL (which is as creative as KANE but not nearly the same in subject matter, to my mind).

Any help from the hive mind that are the Kendalloids?

Make sure to give your reason why.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)



someone will post a link to a web page listing "All movies that are like _____" instead of giving a thoughtful opinion.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Dee, can you describe what sort of films they like, story-wise, besides the ones you mention?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

With absolutely nothing to go on except the two titles listed, one title came to my mind and I can't say why, 'Separate Tables', 1958.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

The line up.
And the marlowe stuff. Kiss me deadly ralph meeker etc.
Double indemnity.
Somebody up there likes me. Paul newman.
The set up. Robert ryan


No reason except these were recommended to me by wiser older film buffs and i loved em.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Dee, can you describe what sort of films they like, story-wise, besides the ones you mention?

The only movie we've discussed so far has been RED STATE (2006), which both of us liked:



EDIT: Oh, he also mentioned IDIOCRACY.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

The line up.
And the marlowe stuff. Kiss me deadly etc.


I take away Princess Points if you fail to put your reasons why, B!

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Well 1, i make it a rule never to recommend unwatchable shit, and 2, those on my list so far are widely regarded as mini-classics and decent albeit maybe not quite the same classic level as the two you mention.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I've run into people who "refuse" to watch black-and-white films because "they're unrealistic".

I had to shame one into watching my selection because I had watched his. I showed him "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane". He totally got into it and forgot it wasn't color.

That's what the modern generation is like nowadays!

Other old ones I'd recommend:

"The Prisoner of Zenda" (1937) -- Ronald Colman, Madeleine Carroll, David Niven & Douglas Fairbanks Jr. This is the best ever version of the tale of a British visitor who is an identical look-alike of the soon-to-be king. In fact, he's a relative (bastard, yes). Brilliant performances, lots of swash being buckled, fantastic production values, a brilliant score (by Alfred Newman) and the beauty of Madeleine Carroll make this film a treasure time and time again.

"The Uninvited" (1944) - Ray Milland, Ruth Hussey, Donald Crisp & Gail Russell. Wonderful ghost story set on Britain's Cornish coast. Ray Milland and Ruth Hussey are brother and sister who buy an old house and discover it has ghosts. Gail Russell's first film. A wonderful story, beautifully told. And then there is Victor Young's score and "Stella By Starlight" (lyrics came later than film).

"The Magnificent Ambersons" (1942) - Joseph Cotton, Dolores Costello, Anne Baxter, Tim Holt & Agnes Moorehead. Moody, intense and, for me, more involving Orson Welles production than "Citizen Kane". Troubled family falls on hard times but won't give up snobbery.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Double Indemnity.

The Sea Hawk.

Hell, he must like the Marx Brothers.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

You mean you second Bill carsons brilliant choice of Double indemnity ?!

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

A bit of a cross section:

THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER

SEVEN MEN FROM NOW

THE CAT PEOPLE (original)

BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK

THE NIGHT OF THE DEMON

THE STORY OF G.I. JOE

OUT OF THE PAST

I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE

SHANE

(Interesting. I just noticed that Robert Mitchum was in three of those I recommended.)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

“12 Angry Men” and “Citizen Kane” both have a fairly unique timeless quality in that the psychology of the characters is always front and foremost in their respective narratives – with dialogue that has not dated for the most part, etc. Perhaps films that are driven by character more than genre-incidents (or are penetrating character studies in one way or another) might work for him:

Repulsion
The Ox-Bow Incident
The Wages of Fear
The Third Man
Diabolique
Wild Boys of the Road

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Wages of fear - good shout.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Rather than take away Princess Points from those naughty, naughty Kendalloids who failed to give reasons why they think my friend who likes those 2 movies would like their choices.....

I'm just going to AWARD Princess Points to those who DID.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


Repulsion
The Ox-Bow Incident
The Wages of Fear
The Third Man
Diabolique
Wild Boys of the Road


REPULSION and THE WAGES OF FEAR, I'd wonder about recommending to a newbie, given their qualities.

THE THIRD MAN is a really good choice. The others I don't know at all.

Thanks, and Three Princess Points are yours, JM.





 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2014 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I dont think i want any princess points so im glad i didnt give expansive reasons!!
Anyway, you dont need reasons when youve got instinct!! Ha ha

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2014 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I'm a recent convert to Rififi - excellent film (and score) and highly recommended to anyone who enjoys the style of films prevalent in the mid-50s but with a gallic twist.

TG

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2014 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Lurve Rififi. Wished id recommended that.

Wonder if i can add it to my suggestions higher up? Wonder if anyone will notice?!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2014 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Based on his liking 12 ANGRY MEN, I'd recommend INHERIT THE WIND (1960).

 
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