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 Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I would say that when a film-maker's right to free expression (especially for a film that is, by most accounts, juvenile and trivial) puts the lives of innocent people in ANY risk of possible harm, then those "rights" need to take a back seat.
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Who knows what Sony's motives are anymore, but this isn't a matter of principle. Sony isn't the US. This is a matter of not risking people's lives unnecessarily.



Perhaps this isn't the film or even the issue (freedom of expression) on which to draw a line in the sand, but at some point it DOES become a matter of principle. If the highest virtue is to not put anyone's life at risk, the violent among us can make any one do any thing.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

At the risk of posting an exceedingly unpopular view:
I would say that when a film-maker's right to free expression (especially for a film that is, by most accounts, juvenile and trivial) puts the lives of innocent people in ANY risk of possible harm, then those "rights" need to take a back seat.


I'm gonna have to kind of agree here. Free expression and all, how in the hell did a movie ( although a comedy) about assassinating am actual, living, world leader, one widely seen as a disturbed dictator, even get the green light? Did no one anticipate some trouble down the road?

And to be glib but honest, anything keeping Seth Rogen out of theaters is a good thing.



No matter one's opinion of the film, it doesn't mean that rights should be given up. Sony or theaters who might have decided to show this film put NOBODY in harm's way: only the terrorists who threatened moviegoers did. Are we going to start sealing away rights just because one person or group abused those rights? I sure hope that isn't the country you want.


And for the record, this film held no interest whatsoever for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

The latest reports say that the hackers have upped their demands, and are requiring Sony to scrub the internet of ALL vestiges of the film . . .

That particular genie is way out of the bottle, LOL. wink


You think? Let's see what happens if, after Amazon is threatened with hacking, denial of service attacks, and other online mischief, the IMDB pages for THE INTERVIEW suddenly disappear.

Sony CEO Michael Lynton said on Friday, "There has not been one major VOD or one major e-commerce site that has said they are willing to step forward and distribute this movie,” Lynton told CNN, presumably referring to streaming services like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.

So, apparently no company will stream the film, no cable company will show it, no manufacturer will produce DVDs of it, and no store would sell them even if they did. These hackers have unlimited power as to what they can force companies to do or not do.


I'll believe it when I see it

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Someone seems to be stepping up:

BitTorrent To Sony: Let Us Distribute ‘The Interview’
by Jen Yamato, Deadline Hollywood
December 19, 2014 4:02pm

As part of Sony Picture Entertainment’s media blitz today to defend its decision of pulling The Interview after President Barack Obama called the move “a mistake,” SPE CEO told NPR that Sony “very much wanted to keep the picture in release” but “we don’t have any takers, neither on the video demand side nor on the e-commerce side.”

That is not exactly the case — at least one outlet has volunteered its services to release the Seth Rogen comedy, which triggered one of the biggest hacking scandals in history. BitTorrent Chief Content Officer Matt Mason told Deadline today that his file-sharing service wants to circulate The Interview. “We have reached out (to Sony) on a number of fronts,” he said. “It seems like no one else wants to touch this, but for us this about the two things we care about most: an open Internet and a sustainable future for creativity. This is bigger than this film at this point. As a company, we feel we have no choice but to help Sony Pictures and defend these principles.” The idea is to use BitTorrent Bundle, an alternative digital-distribution option for artists, musicians, filmmakers and distributors to release material to consumers for a fee. The company says nearly 20,000 creators and rights holders use the Bundle publishing platform.

Among the most notable BitTorrent Bundle releases was for Drafthouse Films’ The Act Of Killing. The Oscar-nominated documentary, which profiles the death squad leaders who committed mass murders in Indonesia in the 1960s re-enacting their murders for the camera, was downloaded more than 3.5 million times.

BitTorrent Director of Communications Christian Averil issued this statement today:


"Like everyone else around the world, we’ve been following this egregious hacking of Sony’s servers over the past few weeks.

"A trend has emerged among commentary in the days since Sony announced they would not release the motion picture, “The Interview.” There have been calls for Sony to release the film online. And many have contacted us asking: Would they be able to release the movie using BitTorrent?

"Though we normally would not offer commentary during such a trying time for another company, the answer is yes. BitTorrent Bundle is in fact the very best way for Sony to take back control of their film, to not acquiesce to terrorists threats, and to ensure a wide audience can view the film safely. It would also strike a strong note for free speech.

"Bundle has a self-publishing platform that anyone from Sony can use. Using the paygate option, Sony are able to set the price for the film and release it widely without implicating anyone or exposing any third party to a terrorist threat.

"We disagree, however, with some that have suggested that Sony should make the film available through piracy sites. That would only serve to encourage bad actors. It’s also important to make the distinction that these piracy sites are not “torrent sites.” They are piracy sites that are wrongfully exploiting torrent technology.

"BitTorrent Bundle is a safe and legal way for Sony to release this film and they would join the nearly 20,000 creators and rights holders now using the Bundle publishing platform."

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

"U.S. investigators have evidence that hackers stole the computer credentials of a system administrator to get access to Sony's computer system, allowing them broad access, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN."

There's where the problem lies ... yet one more example of a company having its pants around its ankles when it comes to computer security. Each new event from Target to Sony shows a general unwillingness to take security seriously and secure their systems.

The real victims in this are Sony employees (past and present) whose personal info is now on the open market. But I see no movement for governmental regulations with respect to responsibilities to disallow theft to occur.

I do not believe that a truly sophisticated security system was compromised by ultra sophisticated hackers, but just more slipshod mediocre IT work at play. That entire movies could be siphoned off only helps to highlight the poor level of planning. It's like Sony was sucked dry because of a compromised password. Jeez! You cannot find a bigger piece of data than a movie.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



"The Interview" one-sheets are going for stupid money on eBay right now.


Greg Espinoza


Have you no shame?
How can you live with yerself, profitting from a terrorist attack!

bruce

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I just read in the WSJ that Sony was hacked in 2011!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is their security guy, Homer Simpson?

I wonder if this site is next?
brm

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

"However, it is not lost on me that comedies generally are not written regarding the elimination of a country's leader. It's kinda like it seems to be okay territory because it's about North Korea, but would potentially be considered less humorous were it about a western leader"
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THIS (with bells on)


What about 'Horrible Bosses', 'How To Kill Your Boss', 'How To Murder Your Wife',
'How to Kill Your Neighbor's Dog', the dog sequences in 'A Fish Called Wanda', and any number of other movies about bumping-off, rubbing-out, or otherwise killing someone for comedic effect?
'The Interview' is just the logical conclusion to a long string of such movies.
There was a movie about killing the Pope.

OK, so the theater chains don't want to take the chance something violent may happen. If I were Sony, I would make this downloadable world-wide for $1 )from a bullet-proof, isolated server)and tell N. Korea that we don't take orders from them (just shareholders).
The movie's not very good- all the hub-bub would die down by X-mas day,

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

"However, it is not lost on me that comedies generally are not written regarding the elimination of a country's leader. It's kinda like it seems to be okay territory because it's about North Korea, but would potentially be considered less humorous were it about a western leader"
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THIS (with bells on)


What about 'Horrible Bosses', 'How To Kill Your Boss', 'How To Murder Your Wife',
'How to Kill Your Neighbor's Dog', the dog sequences in 'A Fish Called Wanda', and any number of other movies about bumping-off, rubbing-out, or otherwise killing someone for comedic effect?


Using that rationale, perhaps Sony aimed too low and should have made a Christmas comedy about bumping off the president of Russia or China, leave the company's vitals 1 password away from cyber Armageddon, then stand back and watch to see what hilarity ensues. It's kinda like a 90 pound weakling walking onto Muscle Beach to kick sand in the face of a mesomorph, and then eating a knuckle sandwich. No big surprise.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

Ha ha ha... The "low profile" "film" that the president "apologized" for... That's a good one! I assume the commenter is joking, as comparing the two situations is utterly absurd, and can only be done by wildly mischaracterizing what happened re the first "filmmaker". smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

Sony Pictures has announced that The Interview will be given a limited theatrical release in the US on Christmas Day.

The move comes just a week after the company cancelled its release after suffering a devastating cyber attack.

Sony Chairman Michael Lynton said he was "excited" that the comedy, about a plot to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, would now be seen.

Two cinemas in Atlanta and Austin have already revealed screenings.

They said via social media that Sony Pictures had authorised them to show the film, which has caused escalating tension between the US and North Korea.

The US has blamed North Korea for the Sony hack, which has led to sensitive data and unreleased film material being leaked.

In the wake of threats against cinema chains that had planned to screen The Interview, Sony announced that the film's release would be pulled completely.

Major movie chains in the US are thought unlikely to take part in the release at this stage.

Mr Lynton said: "We are continuing our efforts to secure more platforms and more theatres so this movie can reach the largest possible audience."

He also said he "hoped it would be the first step of the film's release".

The company has yet to reveal further details of its release plans, but there is also speculation that video on-demand (VOD) will be offered as part of the package.

 
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