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 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I've been reading a couple of FSM threads about Silva's 1992 CD premiere of the 1966 Colgems album The Professionals (Maurice Jarre). I have a couple of questions about quotes made by Ford and Lukas:

Ford A. Thaxton 3/4/05 "I helped make that deal and every attempt was made to locate the masters by myself and James Fitzpatrick. The company we licensed it from just plain couldn't find them at the time (They might well have turned up sometime in the last 10 years) but at the time, NOTHING could be found. It was either what SILVA used or NOTHING!... So if you happen to remember where these tapes are please share that information with us."

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=25829&archive=1

Lukas Kendall 31/12/05 Some time around 1997 I asked Sony about the rights to some of their back catalog, and was told that certain scores released on the Colgems Records LPs did not have masters available, but if I could find them, perhaps a deal could be made. I did end up speaking to a guy at the RCA vaults in Penn. (I think) who said he had the album masters for The Professionals and Interlude (but not Schifrin's Murderer's Row). I told this to Sony but never really formed a relationship with them to release anything, though fortunately Prometheus did (which is when they did Police Story, Contract on Cherry Street, Bite the Bullet, Breakout, etc.). Recently I asked Sony about this again but was told the rights to the Colgems LPs are all with Arista, which might have been the case all along, and might be why RCA had the tapes. So that's the story."

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=31955&forumID=1&archive=1

My question is, in both these quotes, are you referring to the album masters or the OST masters? It reads like the album masters. I'm a little vague on the OST masters for The Professionals. Are they lost? Does the Colgems LP program (which is 38m) contain the meat of the music?

I'd check the liner notes, but I don't have the CD and it fetches a high price on the collectors market so I thought it would be easier to ask you gents.

Colgems and Colpix produced good album programs (both OST and re-recordings) - and it's great to see them getting attention, with FSM having released quite a few in the last decade or so. I wonder if any more will get released in the future.


Thanks for any help you can provide!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

damn i thought you were taking about the TV series

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

damn i thought you were taking about the TV series

Me too. big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

i was once watching an old news clip about john stonehouse, who some of you will recall left his clothes on a beach and vanished.
Oh said my young girlfriend, he did a reggie perrin!!
"...Er...no i said, Reggie Perrin did a john stonehouse."

The Professionals Is the film with Lee marvin.
Bodie and Doyle just came along ten years later and nicked the title.!!


El Bruco should be here.
He just loves this score!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


This would be the album masters...but I wouldn't trust this info from so long ago!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


The Professionals Is the film with Lee marvin.
Bodie and Doyle just came along ten years later and nicked the title.!!





Whenever I hear The Professionals mentioned, I always think of Bodie, Doyle and Cowley.
'Nuff said. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

This would be the album masters...but I wouldn't trust this info from so long ago!

Lukas


Nor would I...

My information was 10 years old when I first posted back in 2005...

It's very possible that someone might have located the masters in the last 10 years...

Anything is possible.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


All I remember is I was researching some of the Colgems stuff in the mid to late 1990s and was able to talk my way into talking to a vault guy who said he had an inventory item for the album master to The Professionals in deep storage.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

damn i thought you were taking about the TV series

Me too. big grin

At least the TV show had that network cd set with all the cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2014 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


At least the TV show had that network cd set with all the cues.



No it didn't...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Sod the god-awful TV show, I never liked it, & don't give a monkeys about the music. The 1966 western on the other hand, is fantastic, with a typically great Jarre score. I had the LP, bought the Silva CD, only to find that it was mastered from an LP, but they did do a great job of it. I'd love a CD from the album masters. I wonder what, deep storage is? It did come under the Arista label. About the same time, Intrada licensed the Jarre album, Night Of The Generals from them, & they were originally told that the album masters were missing, but decided to wait, & the masters were found. If any label out there deals with Arista, this would be a great release.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)


At least the TV show had that network cd set with all the cues.



No it didn't...


You're right. I was thinking of the champions and network on air.,never seen tor heard of this show.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


At least the TV show had that network cd set with all the cues.



No it didn't...


You're right. I was thinking of the champions and network on air.,never seen tor heard of this show.


Nice to see this is still available

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)


At least the TV show had that network cd set with all the cues.



No it didn't...


You're right. I was thinking of the champions and network on air.,never seen tor heard of this show.


It's rubbish, quite frankly (at least one of the stars agrees, although Martin Shaw [said star, and the only one of the three who's still with us] was out of line in barring repeats for years - it took a gentle reminder that Gordon Jackson's widow could use the residuals for him to change his mind). You can get a CD of the music from The Professionals, however.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Laurie-Johnson-Vol-Professionals/dp/B001AL6AS4/

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

if i started a thread about Bodie and Doyle and the T.v show Professionals - do you think people would hijack it and start talking about Lee Marvin, Burt Lancaster and self made men? Peace, brother.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

if i started a thread about Bodie and Doyle and the T.v show Professionals - do you think people would hijack it and start talking about Lee Marvin, Burt Lancaster and self made men? Peace, brother.

Touche.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2014 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   Don Norman   (Member)

Sod the god-awful TV show, I never liked it, & don't give a monkeys about the music. The 1966 western on the other hand, is fantastic, with a typically great Jarre score. I had the LP, bought the Silva CD, only to find that it was mastered from an LP, but they did do a great job of it. I'd love a CD from the album masters. I wonder what, deep storage is? It did come under the Arista label. About the same time, Intrada licensed the Jarre album, Night Of The Generals from them, & they were originally told that the album masters were missing, but decided to wait, & the masters were found. If any label out there deals with Arista, this would be a great release.

If the album masters can be found, I'm sure that a CD from them would be a big seller. Would it be asking too much for someone to make an effort to verify that they currently exist?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

Rodney Dangerfield would get more respect here than Maurice Jarre does.

LK loves his music (I mean seriously, "Mandingo"- I never saw that one coming, but thank the heavens I got it now)
& I respect his fine taste in Jarre selections.

While I'm at it, will someone please re-issue "The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean" please? I lost my copy in a move & can't afford the 150 somales Amazon sellers are asking. *bummed*

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Finally a chance to see The Professionals released in 2020? But I know Sony is a problem recently.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 5:18 AM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

There is a digital re-release by RCA Legacy (even in hires lossless) since late 2017. It sounds much better than the old Silva CD.

https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/the-professionals-maurice-jarre/0886446281179

 
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