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 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

Hoping we'll see this finally released in the coming year. Been playing the Intrada Barbarian set a lot over Christmas, and watched the film again a few days back. Such a truly magnificent & epic score, that really does stand on its own away from the confines of the film. Really am looking forward to the sequel getting the multi-CD Intrada treatment too.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Hopefully it will get released next year. However in the meantime I have been listening to Tadlow's superb re-recording of Destroyer. While it will be very nice to get Intrada's release, the Tadlow will still be my preferred listening experience.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   Michal Turkowski   (Member)

Now it is 2016, almost four years after Barbarian complete release and still there is nothing about original Destroyer...

I have all new recordings (which I LOVE) and all others releases of original Basil recordings... And still there is not complete OST from Destroyer... So question is - why Intrada waiting so long with this ?

I know that original Rome performance and recording have many issues, but it is still Poledouris recording so I will buy Destroyer from Intrada with a heart beat...

But im hope this time Intrada will not repeat some wrong (in my opinion of course) "artistic" decision like in Barbarian release, which has some problems and very curious editing decisions etc.

And question is - what about original Sword and Sorcery ?

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I have all new recordings (which I LOVE) and all others releases of original Basil recordings... And still there is not complete OST from Destroyer... So question is - why Intrada waiting so long with this ?

What makes you think they're “waiting?”

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I have all new recordings (which I LOVE) and all others releases of original Basil recordings... And still there is not complete OST from Destroyer... So question is - why Intrada waiting so long with this ?

What makes you think they're “waiting?”



I seem to recall this was going to get a release around the same time as the re-recording. Intrada thought it best to sit on it and let the re-recording do it's business before releasing the original soundtrack. I also thought there were some comments hinting at a 2015 or 2016 release, but my memory seems faulty nowadays.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This is just speculation, but I have long thought that Intrada might painstakingly work to piece together a "better performance" from the original flawed recording sessions, ie. use modern technology to splice together the less flawed parts, much as Michael Mattesino did for Superman IV. We'd end up with different takes from those used in the film at times, but I for one would prefer that if it ends up in a "better performed" edition of the original recording.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

This is just speculation, but I have long thought that Intrada might painstakingly work to piece together a "better performance" from the original flawed recording sessions, ie. use modern technology to splice together the less flawed parts, much as Michael Mattesino did for Superman IV. We'd end up with different takes from those used in the film at times, but I for one would prefer that if it ends up in a "better performed" edition of the original recording.

Yavar


That performance for that soundtrack is nothing short of AWFUL..

Basil HATED IT, he tried to get a clean take on the Main Title, as I recall after seven takes, he gave up and hoped the sound effects would cover it up.

Now I'm sure INTRADA will do as good a job as possible, but there isn't a whole lot you can do when the orchestra just can't play together.

We do have the recording from TADLOW which is much closer to want Basil wanted it to sound like.

I'm sure INTRADA is trying to get the title cleared which isn't always a easy or fast process.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I'll be glad to see the Intrada release come out. That way, the book can finally be closed on Poledouris' Conan scores. We'll have the originals and rerecordings and can enjoy them anytime.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

This is just speculation, but I have long thought that Intrada might painstakingly work to piece together a "better performance" from the original flawed recording sessions, ie. use modern technology to splice together the less flawed parts, much as Michael Mattesino did for Superman IV. We'd end up with different takes from those used in the film at times, but I for one would prefer that if it ends up in a "better performed" edition of the original recording.

Yavar


Keep in mind the performance issues Basil had were not so much related to mistakes in the playing as you might think. It's not like the horns kept playing the wrong notes or the violins weren't playing together. Rather he was unhappy with the intonation out of the clarinets, for example. I'm sure it drove him batty but heck if I would notice. Stuff many of us lay people would not notice but he as a composer would because he knew what he was listening for and expected. It's like when my daughter was practicing her Torah portion for her upcoming Bat Mitzvah yesterday. She kept repeating a section because she said it wasn't right. But hell if I could tell, it sounded fine to me.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Ah, I'd thought it was more a matter of the orchestra not being in sync at times, or flubbed brass notes and such. To some degree Michael showed he could fix that kind of stuff on Superman IV, an amazing musical restoration effort. I think there might be digital tools today that can fix things like intonation, but I'm not sure at what cost that might be achieved.

So are you able to confirm what is delaying this title so many years, so Ford and I don't have to speculate? smile

Also, in regards to the poster who wrote about "closing the book"...for me, the Conan book won't be closed until we get a nice remastered version of the Conan Sword and Sorcery Spectacular that Basil composed as well. For me, it's actually a greater, less compromised composition than Conan the Destroyer itself, and it was great to get a new recording of it included as an extra by Tadlow. But I'm hoping the old SuperTracks "not quite legal" promo from years back can be retired with Intrada including a remastered version of it as an extra with their Destroyer release.

Probably just wishful thinking, that, but I thought I'd mention it!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It's like when my daughter was practicing her Torah portion for her upcoming Bat Mitzvah yesterday. She kept repeating a section because she said it wasn't right. But hell if I could tell, it sounded fine to me.

When's the CD coming out?

(And mazel tov!)

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I don't want any digital trickery used to change any section's intonation. I enjoy Battle Beyond the Stars just fine, warts and all, and the case is no different with Destroyer. I just want all of it.

How was the SuperTracks Sword and Sorcery album "not quite legal"? On a related note, I remember an early track list for BSX's Poledouris Collection having a remastered presentation listed, but it got pulled at the last minute for undisclosed reasons.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, that's just what I've heard, but probably the same way that their release of Krull was not quite legal. They put out a lot of things labeled as promos and such years ago (another example is David Newman's Galaxy Quest), back before the studios started cracking down on things that weren't fully licensed.

I'm hoping that Intrada licensing it for inclusion on their upcoming release of Destroyer is the reason it was left off the BSX release. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Stuff many of us lay people would not notice but he as a composer would because he knew what he was listening for and expected.

He was an artist constantly striving to get better. They get fixated on minutiae, on technical details, even when their work is brilliant overall. Akira Kurosawa and Stanley Kubrick undoubtedly thought their films were flawed in a million tiny ways, ways we the audience don't see.

And Basil seemed like an exceedingly humble man. People like that tend to downplay the virtues of their work when someone praises them - oh, I could have done this, or that. It could have been better.

It's a defense mechanism. When they receive praise, they punch holes in it because praise makes them uncomfortable.

Basil's daughter stated that he didn't fully grasp how beloved his music was until the very end of his life, when he went to Ubeda. That tells me a lot about his character.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2016 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

These concerts at Ubeda have opened the eyes of more than one composer, so I've seen. And I've gathered the limited editions over the passed two decades have shown some thigns I don't think they knew about the score community.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   tyuan   (Member)

Men, time passes and I'm getting old, but no Conan the Destroyer complete edition by Intrada on the way yet.
Hoping to be still alive when they will decide to sell it...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

Yes I would like that release too maybe this year or next year can't see it being much longer than that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2016 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   edern   (Member)

Releasing this title next november would be a great way of honoring Poledouris's memory in the wake of the tenth anniversary of his passing.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2017 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

This title has been on my mind of late. It was mentioned some time ago and I would've thought we'd have it in our hands by now. Is there any recent information out there as to why it hasn't been released yet?

In the meantime, I am very happy that we have the Tadlow edition to go to.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2017 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Tadlow   (Member)

This title has been on my mind of late. It was mentioned some time ago and I would've thought we'd have it in our hands by now. Is there any recent information out there as to why it hasn't been released yet?

In the meantime, I am very happy that we have the Tadlow edition to go to.


And at least the CoPPO does play the right notes!!!

 
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