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 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

I have a suspicion that the Lizabeth Scott "omission" was more an accident than an intention.

I can't imagine who, employed within the Academy, would have a paid and designated job to list, each day, the deaths of film people in the world, for the next year's show.

It's a big task, and I suspect that the actual final list is derived from industry-insider suggestions, highly-remembered and publicized deaths, fan suggestions throughout the year, and random entries here and there.

Of course, the final decision on who's going to be listed (out of the likely hundreds who finally qualify to be included) may rest on someone who is not as movie-wise as he/she should be.
But whatcha' gonna' do? Fame is fleeting, even in death, and sometimes we don't hear about a death until months or years later.

What I really strongly object to in these memoriam segments is the inclusion of audience applause, however fleeting or subdued, on the audio feed. Death should not be a time for a popularity contest, and neither should the placement of names/images within the segment. The order of people appearing within the final memorial film should be absolutely random, without the judgment of contemporary film history added on top.


Lizabeth Scott was not the only major omission, Manderley -- also missing were Polly Bergen, Elaine Stritch, Marian Seldes, Mona Freeman, Ed Nelson and most prominently, Joan Rivers ...

Why would it be so difficult for the Academy to keep a list of actors who died in the last 12 mos.?? Buy a subscription to Classic Images for $34. and you can find a comprehensive obituary section each month..

Who outside Hollywood knows these names --William Greaves, Sanford Reisenbach, Walter Marin, Pennie Dupont...?? But there are millions of viewers(and fans) who know many of the names I listed.

I too hate the applause during memoriams - that should be banned.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 3:52 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

DESERT FURY is a favorite film of mine - so many good performances with Lizabeth(and Wendell Corey) leading the way

That's fascinating, Philiperic. I still recall, even before I saw the film, how a colleague wrote that it was probably the worst film that Miklos Rozsa had ever worked on. I wouldn't go that far myself. But it's always good to hear contrary views. I wonder if you are aware of David Eherenstein's classic article, "Desert Fury, Mon Amour"? He doesn't hate the movie: "It's 'just a movie'—produced, consumed, forgotten. Not good. Not bad. Mediocre. In fact, one might even go so far as to call it quintessentially mediocre." But he goes on to say a lot of interesting things about what the movie reveals about American movie culture. The article was originally published in Film Quarterly and has since been reprinted. I see that the reprint version can be accessed online for free: http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft5h4nb36j&chunk.id=d0e10981&brand=ucpress

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

I will definitely read it.....I enjoy the lush technicolor, the quirky, twisted characters, the overripe dialogue....I guess that it is more a "guilty pleasure".

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Columbia Pictures borrowed Lizabeth Scott from Hal Wallis's company, and Humphrey Bogart was on loan from Warner Bros., for 1947's DEAD RECKONING. In this film noir, Scott plays a cabaret singer and widow of a paratrooper buddy of Bogart's character. Scott's role of "Coral Chandler" was originally intended for Rita Hayworth, but she had already been cast by her estranged husband, Orson Welles, for the role of "Elsa" in THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI. In DEAD RECKONING, Scott's singing was dubbed by Trudy Stevens. The film was one of the bigger productions scored by Marlin Skiles. The long-term effect of DEAD RECKONING would be to typecast Scott, a former stage comedienne, for her entire career.



You're gonna fry, baby, you're gonna fry!

 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

My regular newspaper The Times only got round to reporting her death 24 days after the event, with a smallish obituary, which is quite disgraceful.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Lizabeth Scott was not the only major omission, Manderley -- also missing were Polly Bergen, Elaine Stritch, Marian Seldes, Mona Freeman, Ed Nelson and most prominently, Joan Rivers ...
I too hate the applause during memoriams - that should be banned.


Yes, but Scott was a movie star] (second magnitude): she received top billing for a decade or so. Only Bergen of the latter group could be so described and only for a few years in the 1960s. That's not to slight the genuine and distinctive (Stritch!) talents in the latter group.

 
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