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 Posted:   May 1, 2015 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

If I may dare suggest such a discussion. Just curious on everyone's thoughts (which will probably be more articulate than my own. It's difficult for me to hold back plunging into mere gushing without provocative thought xS).
Joe Dante is my favorite director, and I always felt he brought out the best in Jerry. Gremlins is within my top five film scores period, and Explorers is positively ethereal, to name just a few examples.
In general, I feel Jerry's work for Joe was among his most spiritual, and I've always wanted to know more about their relationship and dynamic.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2015 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Goldsmith's music for Dante's films are never less than entertaining. I think they really pushed Jerry's "fun" meter up to 11. GREMLINS has the most bite for sure, while EXPLORERS has the most heart. From their work together, INNERSPACE is probably the score that gets the most play for me, it's just insanely infectious and energetic. MATINEE is the least listened to, but I do really like the end credits cue.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's one of those classic collaborations that you wish had lasted for longer than it did, or across more movies.

I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Joe Dante in Vienna two years ago, for an hour's interview about his life and work (with two other journalists). Among the topics we talked about extensively was the collaboration with Jerry Goldsmith. You can hear the whole interview at the link below. It starts at 8:40, and the Goldsmith bit starts at around 25:20:

http://montages.no/2013/11/filmfrelst-130-intervju-med-joe-dante/

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

One of the best collaborations ever in the world of cinema.

Like Thor, I got the chance to interview Joe Dante (a wonderful human being and one of the best directors in my humble opinion) and we talk about his collaboration with maestro Jerry Goldsmith. I leave the link here for your interest:

https://youtu.be/_FS0JpGrQdE

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

Nice interviews, guys. Dante is one of my great inspirations as a filmmaker, I love his mix of genres.

Still waiting for an expanded/complete GREMLINS 2, one my remaining holy grails.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

It's one of those classic collaborations that you wish had lasted for longer than it did, or across more movies.

Twenty years and nine movies (plus an Amazing Stories episode) is the longest professional director/composer partnership of Goldsmith's career (okay, Franklin Schaffner was longer, but had fewer movies). True, I wish Dante had gotten to make more movies in the 90's and 00's, but Goldsmith never worked with another director as often or as harmoniously.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's one of those classic collaborations that you wish had lasted for longer than it did, or across more movies.

Twenty years and nine movies (plus an Amazing Stories episode) is the longest professional director/composer partnership of Goldsmith's career (okay, Franklin Schaffner was longer, but had fewer movies). True, I wish Dante had gotten to make more movies in the 90's and 00's, but Goldsmith never worked with another director as often or as harmoniously.


That's true. I guess what I tried to say is that it's a shame Dante sort of fizzled away after SMALL SOLDIERS in 1998 (even though I really like THE HOLE from 2009). Same with the Goldsmith collaborations, which for obvious reasons reached its natural conclusion in 2004.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2015 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=68612&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I very much admired his score for "The 'Burbs", all those musical elements, the shoot-out western music, the militaristic thing referencing Patton (I think so?), the horror-organ, and that every-day-life-in-suburbs theme.
Still like it very much, because of all those completely heterogeneous styles and genres.

Wasn't one of the central shoot-out-scenes tracked with music by Morricone, though?

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


Wasn't one of the central shoot-out-scenes tracked with music by Morricone, though?


Yeah, the scene where Tom Hanks and Rick Duccomun are approaching the Klopek house and we get the series of Leone-inspired close ups of the various neighbors' eyes was tracked with a cue from My Name Is Nobody when Goldsmith's attempt at mimicking Morricone didn't quote work.

BTW, got the film on Blu-Ray recently, and it holds up pretty well.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I remember when I first saw it I did not know nor recognize this was by Morricone and
thought it was Goldsmith and really fantastic.
Wondered that it was not on that first varese CD.

curious how Goldsmith felt about it and how his tries looked like.
with Alien it was clear that JG did not appreciate and the collaboration did not continue with
Scott and the sound editor.
But here they did not fell apart on it apparently.

edit,
I know, Alien was also much worse in how JG's music was dealt with, here it is just one cue scene and they obviously
talked about it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I remember when I first saw it I did not know nor recognize this was by Morricone and
thought it was Goldsmith and really fantastic.
Wondered that it was not on that first varese CD.

curious how Goldsmith felt about it and how his tries looked like.
with Alien it was clear that JG did not appreciate and the collaboration did not continue with
Scott and the sound editor.
But here they did not fell apart on it apparently.

edit,
I know, Alien was also much worse in how JG's music was dealt with, here it is just one cue scene and they obviously
talked about it.


And according to his editor Marshall Harvey Jerry took a couple stabs at that cue before Dante settled on buying the Morricone one.

On the other hand Dante wanted to use the "Big W" cue from Ernest Gold's IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD for the Walmart oasis sequence in LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION and Jerry came up with an acceptable substitution.

I am sure a Goldsmith/Dante box would be THE most profitable possible for a Jerry release if it wasn't for the impossibility of all those diverse studios involved. On the other hand if Steven Spielberg produced it! He seems one of a handful of guys that could get studios to cooperate just to keep his production company in their good graces. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

BTW, got the film on Blu-Ray recently, and it holds up pretty well.

An interesting bonus on that Blu-ray is the entire workprint cut of the film, complete with temp track. I noticed a lot of Herrmann (The Trouble With Harry, Fahrenheit 451), Goldsmith (Twilight Zone TV scores) and obviously Morricone.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

BTW, got the film on Blu-Ray recently, and it holds up pretty well.

An interesting bonus on that Blu-ray is the entire workprint cut of the film, complete with temp track. I noticed a lot of Herrmann (The Trouble With Harry, Fahrenheit 451), Goldsmith (Twilight Zone TV scores) and obviously Morricone.


I noticed EXPLORERS, THE HOWLING, THE TWILIGHT ZONE and THE DUNWICH HORROR when I watched it.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I am sure a Goldsmith/Dante box would be THE most profitable possible for a Jerry release if it wasn't for the impossibility of all those diverse studios involved. On the other hand if Steven Spielberg produced it! He seems one of a handful of guys that could get studios to cooperate just to keep his production company in their good graces. big grin

I quite agree! In fact I was so sure that Varese's recent big announcement was going to be this...set myself up for major disappointment! Let's hope Varese sees fit to tackle them in complete form individually in the near future.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Gremlins 2 - Complete!

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Gremlins 2 - Complete!

No kidding! But I hope they don't forget about the other ones they control too. Would be especially nice to get a legit complete Looney Tunes (with Debney's music too) that doesn't feel terribly fragmented and end abruptly.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I remember when I first saw it I did not know nor recognize this was by Morricone and
thought it was Goldsmith and really fantastic.
Wondered that it was not on that first varese CD.

curious how Goldsmith felt about it and how his tries looked like.
with Alien it was clear that JG did not appreciate and the collaboration did not continue with
Scott and the sound editor.
But here they did not fell apart on it apparently.

edit,
I know, Alien was also much worse in how JG's music was dealt with, here it is just one cue scene and they obviously
talked about it.


And according to his editor Marshall Harvey Jerry took a couple stabs at that cue before Dante settled on buying the Morricone one.

On the other hand Dante wanted to use the "Big W" cue from Ernest Gold's IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD for the Walmart oasis sequence in LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION and Jerry came up with an acceptable substitution.

I am sure a Goldsmith/Dante box would be THE most profitable possible for a Jerry release if it wasn't for the impossibility of all those diverse studios involved. On the other hand if Steven Spielberg produced it! He seems one of a handful of guys that could get studios to cooperate just to keep his production company in their good graces. big grin



Or maybe that nice Mr Obama could have a word... big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I remember when I first saw it I did not know nor recognize this was by Morricone and
thought it was Goldsmith and really fantastic.
Wondered that it was not on that first varese CD.

curious how Goldsmith felt about it and how his tries looked like.
with Alien it was clear that JG did not appreciate and the collaboration did not continue with
Scott and the sound editor.
But here they did not fell apart on it apparently.

edit,
I know, Alien was also much worse in how JG's music was dealt with, here it is just one cue scene and they obviously
talked about it.


And according to his editor Marshall Harvey Jerry took a couple stabs at that cue before Dante settled on buying the Morricone one.

On the other hand Dante wanted to use the "Big W" cue from Ernest Gold's IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD for the Walmart oasis sequence in LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION and Jerry came up with an acceptable substitution.

I am sure a Goldsmith/Dante box would be THE most profitable possible for a Jerry release if it wasn't for the impossibility of all those diverse studios involved. On the other hand if Steven Spielberg produced it! He seems one of a handful of guys that could get studios to cooperate just to keep his production company in their good graces. big grin



Or maybe that nice Mr Obama could have a word... big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2015 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Some of the most joyous and wonder filled scores that Jerry did were for Dante.

It is a remarkable and happy collection of work on it's own, inventive, happy and full of musicality.

 
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