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 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Quoting Soundtrackcollector.com here:

"22-May-2016 - Varèse Sarabande's Masters Film Music returns with “The Big Woo” edition of Georges Delerue’s absolutely magnificent score for Joe Versus The Volcano(....) Probably most-importantly is the improvement they have made in the sound from the original CD from 14 years ago. "


Can anyone shed some light on how exactly you "improve" the sound information preserved on (presumably?) the same tape sources as for the original release? I've always wondered what they actually do in the studio!

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)



For some visuals, check out starting about 2:30 in this video.

As I understand (I don't really understand) they can sometimes find new masters to work from, or clean up old ones, or use newer technologies to clean up the sound and spruce up the mix from old ones. Or something like that?

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Noise reduction and removing other unwanted artifacts, plus applying selective EQ to allow certain instrument frequencies to come through more strongly or to be pushed back at will. This can all be done in the digital domain which allows such fine tuning to be achieved with a lot of accuracy and finesse. Nowadays, the technology is much improved from that of years past.

The point is to do it with care and good taste rather than to over-produce the thing beyond what the composer and original recording producers intended.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

A lot depends on the original stems and elements.

If you look at scores being recorded now, by, say the likes of Tadlow when they're doing their REAL job of session scoring, there'll often be many recorded individual channels for each instrument (the 'microphone in every orifice' approach) and in those cases the whole thing can be remixed anew, and re-equalised layer by layer.

With older recordings, different frequencies, bass etc. can be altered to favour say a woodwind that was submerged in some previous mix.

Often these days it seems to mean pushing up the amplitude and throwing in some bass.

I recall FSM saying that when they approached any old mono source they laid on a VERY SLIGHT stereo spread, an approach which I think is wise and works well.

Sometimes reverb is removed from a previous release. You can never remove reverb from a source where it was originally present but you can go back to source and simply omit it.

You can fix anomalies like wrong keys that result from bad transfer rates, and remove noise, as well as change stereo spread to produce a better, less separated blend. It's also possible to add slight reverb to gloss over clipping on old tapes.

And it has been known to just slap a 'remastered' label on and hope no-one twigs.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I don't know specifically but remember that any home audio release of any studio recording is going to be lower-fi than the original masters. So even if two releases are from the same masters, there is generally always scope for a better, more spacious transfer from the original masters than before.

Plus, as others said, better white noise reduction and click removal, i.e. better repair of artefacts.

But also not all improved titles do come from the same masters. Think In Harm's Way. First CD release was mastered from an LP. Re-issue CD was mastered from mixed album master with reverb baked in. Subsequent re-issue mastered from clean multi-tracks with the final mix and reverb not yet baked in.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2016 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The point is to do it with care and good taste rather than to over-produce the thing beyond what the composer and original recording producers intended.

Or beyond what the technology can reasonably accomplish.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Nice thread!

Nary a Trump, Trek, or representative casting comment to be found. Except for the ones I just made. Cough.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2016 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And technology is improving drastically in the mastering world. I remember sometimes in the last two years a label released a score where they said just a few years prior, the tapes were in such shape it wouldn't even have been possible to release it.


And just for a laugh, what MV said once in another thread on debating mastering:

Y'all just a bunch of mastering debaters.

;-)

MV

 
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