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 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I read Mariana Whitmer’s score guide for THE BIG COUNTRY, and I really enjoyed it. James MacMillan just sent me the following announcement from Amazon. I’m cheap when it comes to buying books as I use my library all the time. However, I will buy this book and relish all the details. It looks like we will get a lot of details about Elmer Bernstein as well as this score. Hope some of you will join me. Below is what is posted at Amazon.

Elmer Bernstein's The Magnificent Seven: A Film Score Guide (Film Score Guides) Paperback – June 15, 2017
by Mariana Whitmer (Author)
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Paperback, June 15, 2017 $35.00

Released in late 1960, The Magnificent Seven was a Western reimagining of the 1954 Japanese film The Seven Samurai. Despite such stars as Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner, and Charles Bronson, the film was not terribly successful when it premiered. However, in the years since, the film has become recognized as a classic of the genre. And though the movie received only one Academy Award nomination, that honor was bestowed upon Elmer Bernstein’s rousing score. Beyond the scope of the film, however, the score has permeated American culture, used in countless commercials and referenced on television shows like Cheers and The Simpsons. But what makes this score so memorable?

In Elmer Bernstein’s The Magnificent Seven: A Film Score Guide, Mariana Whitmer examines the creation and development of one of the most iconic soundtrack’s in the history of cinema.
The author explores the significance of its familiar score through a variety of lenses, first delving into the background of Elmer Bernstein and his emergence as one of the key composers of the Silver Age of film music. This book also traces Bernstein’s early musical endeavors and considers what led to his attraction to “Americana” music, which particularly influenced the music for The Magnificent Seven. The book also summarizes Bernstein’s early Westerns, noting that they are clearly in the mainstream of the genre’s musical style, but enhanced by Bernstein’s own distinctive touches.

Providing unique insights into the creation of this iconic score—which was deemed one of the 10 greatest film scores of all time by the American Film Institute—this book explains what makes the score so enduring. Elmer Bernstein’s The Magnificent Seven: A Film Score Guide will be of interest to cinema and music scholars in general, as well as to fans of film music and the work of one of Hollywood’s finest composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

That's a great item you dropped, Ms. Hue, and I wanted to thank you for the head's up! Since it'll be a couple of more months before it comes out, I'll keep myself busy by reading a book I missed in the series: The Conversation.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thanks, Eugene. Hope you like The Conversation.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Are Eugene and I the only ones EXCITED about this book's release? I know there are many western film score music lovers on this board. In my opinion, this is just about the FINEST western score ever composed. I'm thrilled to be reading about the Americana genesis of this score. Where did Bernstein get his ideas for this score? (Yeah, I know Copland was the major influence on the Americana sound, but I always thought Moross and Bernstein made the "Americana" sounds and tributes their own in their scores.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I appreciate the announcement and hope you enjoy the book, Joan. But I have to admit I found the Big Country book a bit of a chore to get through, so it may just be that a book-length treatment focused on a single score is more than I need. (I didn't even pick up the Planet of the Apes book from a couple years ago, and that should have been a natural for my predilections.)

On the other hand, I got interested in reading the the Big Country book because of your thread, and especially your overview of the book in your initial posts. So I may well change my mind when you have read and discussed this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Sean, I understand what you mean by some of The Big Country book being a chore. I liked her background information about Moross and how he got hired, and about four other western scores. I liked reading about the evolution of western scores and about scenes in the movie. I liked the parts where she explained certain themes in the score, but I’m not a musicologist, so when she delved into the intricacies of whole and half notes and other detailed parts of the score, she lost me too. I scanned those parts, and I may do that with this new book. I just hope to glean more insights into Bernstein and what influenced this composition. Thanks for replying.

When I do read this, I will try to post an overview of the "interesting" ideas.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

In my opinion, this is just about the FINEST western score ever composed.

I agree with you and so did Jerry Goldsmith. He said on TCM (paraphrasing now) that it was the best western score ever written.
Looking forward to this discussion.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Actually, for me it wasn't the music section (though it was more detail than I needed), but I've been a musician since I was five so that interested me more anyway. I just found a lot of repetition and wasn't as impressed with some of the analysis of Moross and the other film Weterns. Still, as you say, a lot of interesting information. May be worth a library rental down the road (which is how I got Big Country, just like you).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

mgh, I knew you’d show up. Yeah! I do remember Jerry Goldsmith’s statement about this score. (And Jerry wrote some great western scores.) Part of the problem with The Magnificent Seven score may its overuse. It was used so much for the Marlboro Man and other ads. I know I got sick of hearing “Somewhere My Love” from Dr. Zhivago, but I NEVER tired of hearing The Magnificent Seven. It is going to be fun learning about this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Book has been available from amazon.com for a couple of weeks now, at $35, or very slightly less on Kindle ebook. Only just getting into it (wish I had more time to devote to such things) but really enjoying it's opening chapters!

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2017 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

mgh, I knew you’d show up. Yeah! I do remember Jerry Goldsmith’s statement about this score. (And Jerry wrote some great western scores.) Part of the problem with The Magnificent Seven score may its overuse. It was used so much for the Marlboro Man and other ads. I know I got sick of hearing “Somewhere My Love” from Dr. Zhivago, but I NEVER tired of hearing The Magnificent Seven. It is going to be fun learning about this score.

Unfortunately, you are right, Joan. It became ubiquitous; Marlboro Man, references to westerns on TV and in movies, ect. It actually almost became tiring to hear, much like Star Wars. But I love the score so much that I managed to overlook the references. I am still looking forward to the discussion of the score and the film; both the film and score are seminal works; they influenced much of what came after them; unfortunately, I am going to have to wait to purchase the book as $35 is a bit high for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2017 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I did bit the bullet and bought this book. When done, I intend to start a thread about it. Just gathering some fun tidbits to discuss as well as talking about the "magnificent" score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 12:41 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I did bit the bullet and bought this book. When done, I intend to start a thread about it. Just gathering some fun tidbits to discuss as well as talking about the "magnificent" score.

Just thinking in terms of EB's development as a film composer, it has always seemed to me that MAG7 was a major breakthrough score for him in the western genre. His earlier western scores (thinking of DRANGO and TIN STAR, for instance) were more prone to a sort of brassy, droning style that lacked both the energy and the thematic quality of MAG7. Once he hit on the missing "thing" he seemed to be reaching for in those earlier scores, his western scores were all adrenalin and great themes from then on. THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN seemed to usher in a golden period for EB as a film composer, even beyond the westerns, as the early to mid 60s brought forth from him scores that were not just among his greatest work -- but some of the greatest film scores ever written.

 
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