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 Posted:   Apr 23, 2017 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

What is the best release out there of this score to purchase? I somehow had not given the main theme a proper listen until now (I know, I need to be jumped) and HOLY COW THE THEME IS SO FREAKING EPIC. I must have this score but I honestly do not know which release is the latest and greatest. Any and all suggestions would be welcomed, thanks guys!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2017 - 11:26 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

What is the best release out there of this score to purchase? I somehow had not given the main theme a proper listen until now (I know, I need to be jumped) and HOLY COW THE THEME IS SO FREAKING EPIC. I must have this score but I honestly do not know which release is the latest and greatest. Any and all suggestions would be welcomed, thanks guys!

One of the best releases is the rerecording with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra, conducted by Elmer Bernstein. Pulled due to unauthorized use of images from the film, it can still be ad for a decent price.

https://www.amazon.com/Magnificent-Seven-Re-recording-1960-Score/dp/B00000JJMD

And a previous thread on this CD:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=85048&forumID=1&archive=0

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2017 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

What is the best release out there of this score to purchase? I somehow had not given the main theme a proper listen until now (I know, I need to be jumped) and HOLY COW THE THEME IS SO FREAKING EPIC. I must have this score but I honestly do not know which release is the latest and greatest. Any and all suggestions would be welcomed, thanks guys!

Okay, Peter, the answer may be a little complicated.

(1) The actual original tracks:

https://www.amazon.com/Magnificent-Seven-Original-Soundtrack-Enhanced/dp/B00000C40G/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1493010802&sr=1-4&keywords=magnificent+seven+soundtrack

(The real stuff, but frankly, in mono and a little pinched-sounding for my taste)

(2) Bernstein re-recorded (in stereo) and re-used the same Mag 7 music in a sequel, Return of the 7:

https://www.amazon.com/Return-Magnificent-Seven-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000005Z5Y/ref=pd_sim_15_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000005Z5Y&pd_rd_r=PKDNT48PTHTXVAZ9B3W0&pd_rd_w=cgg8E&pd_rd_wg=QIjj3&psc=1&refRID=PKDNT48PTHTXVAZ9B3W0

(My favorite, really punchy though a bit re-verby)

(3) James Sedaris re-recorded the score in a generally-well-regarded recording on the Koch label:

https://www.amazon.com/Magnificent-Seven-Elmer-Bernstein/dp/B000001SGU/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1493010802&sr=1-3&keywords=magnificent+seven+soundtrack

(you can listen to the clips on this listing and see what you think)

You might want to read the thread below, about the RNSO re-recording of the score. There are a variety of opinions offered there.

Hope that helps.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)


For me actual tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Don Norman   (Member)

I am listening to Tadlow's re-recording of "El Cid" and considering how great this re-recording is, that maybe he should attempt a re-recording of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN too.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I am listening to Tadlow's re-recording of "El Cid" and considering how great this re-recording is, that maybe he should attempt a re-recording of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN too.

Yes. I said the same thing in the other RSNO thread. But James is planning to retire. Perhaps if better circumstances prevail he may do a few more recordings after BEN-HUR. If he does then he would probably go the BEN-HUR route and focus on popular titles (like this one) which could generate some positive sales. All up to him.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I like the RNSO re-recording of the score, but the Sedares recording is now my first choice.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)

I don't care if they're mono; the original tracks are stunningly good, in my opinion. None of the other versions reach the same level of excitement for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I have the James Sedares recording and I think it is wonderful. There is a note from Bernstein himself stating how he was pleased with this performance in the linear notes. And it is pretty cheap.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I've got a few versions of THE MAGNIFICENT 7 soundtrack by EB (it was my favourite western score in my younger days), but the one I've always played the most is this...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Magnificent-Seven-Soundtrack-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B000005Z5Y/ref=sr_1_10?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1493034628&sr=1-10&keywords=ELMER+BERNSTEIN+MAGNIFICENT+7

If I remember correctly, this was the only version people could play back in the day.
I don't think the original film got a score release concurrent with the film.
Maybe it's because I heard this LP first and got to know it the most, but for me, it does all it needs to do and so much more.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Return of the Seven does tackle all the familiar treatments of the main theme but one thing it does NOT do is present Bernstein's incredible gunfight music--cues like "Calvera Routed" and all of the furiously kinetic, high octane music for the final battle--that was material I wanted for years and was finally put out in the mono presentation of the whole score. Some--but not all--of that material is in the Sedares rerecording, which is quite good. But I still prefer the vibrancy of the original performance. Seems like I'd heard years ago that someone had dug up the stereo tracks for the original but then again I'd also heard something similar about Williams' Dracula years ago so it's more than likely that the original Mag 7 tapes remain lost.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

It HAS to be the original tracks (on Ryko or Varese Sarabande) for the simple reason that the re-recordings get the main title a bit wrong. The Sedares comes closest, but the concert-hall sound deflates it a bit. No, the terse, spring-loaded sound of Elmer Bernstein in the studio conducting to film is essential and vital. It may be in mono, but it is the best. No question!

(An aside - and in no way wishing to de-rail the thread) - while the RETURN OF THE SEVEN album has great sound and served us Bernstein fans for years, I must say that the listening experience of GUNS OF TM7 (available as part of box-set FSM Vol.10No.10) is extremely satisfying. And, as a bonus of sorts, the guitar solos that take up the last 12 minutes or so of the disc are exceptional. I wish the guitar player had been credited on the CD.

Here's a thought - how about a Magnificent Seven box set? The TM7 original tracks, followed by ROT7 original tracks (if they still exist (?) followed by Guns of TM7 and then THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN RIDE! And if that ever happens, I want to do the liner notes!

JMM.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

James, that box set is a great idea.

Peter, the main theme is EPIC, but you will also find a lot of other great themes in this score. There is a villain theme, love them, and lots of action music. After the main theme, I really like the rather comedic rousing theme that follows Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen's ride from Boot Hill back into town.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

For me actual tracks.

I do completely agree Henry. No other recording comes close to matching Elmer's original recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

For me actual tracks.

I do completely agree Henry. No other recording comes close to matching Elmer's original recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Regardless of whether it is mono, or perhaps not the greatest sonic presentation, NONE of the others come anywhere near the emotion-charged original 1960 performance presented first on Ryko, and then re-issued on Varese. All I can say is, if you're looking for a demonstration recording to play in your living room stereo, get one of the later stereo recordings. If you really want to hear the punch and tenacity of this score, get the original 1960 recording on Ryko or Varese. None of the others match it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2017 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I agree with Niall and Jim, the original 1960 performance has an energy and excitement that can't be matched by the later recordings.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I agree that Bernstein's original recording is the most energetic. But I'm in love with the Sedaris recording of the score. Perhaps in tempo more traditional, but way more nuanced and larger in scope. Fantastic album.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I have to chime in to agree with those saying that the original soundtrack recording is the most rousing and energetic rendition there is out there. It may be in mono, but that performance packs one hell of a punch. The other recordings certainly have their merit, but the original has not been topped, at least, not for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The excellent Sedares re-recording had the disadvantage of one of the most inept illustrations in the entire history of soundtrack music cover art.

 
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