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 Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


I heard a bit of this tonight and was quite impressed. Has anyone heard the entire score? Thoughts?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

A long long time fave of mine, since picking the set up in '95. If you not a Glass fan it may grate - I am (a fan ), and find the piece endlessly fascinating. Some gorgeous music there, and an innovative idea, I think, recasting a dramatic film as a vocal work. What else to say - the 2cd set can probably be had for peanuts now, I'm guessing, go get it!

Best to ya E!
-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

This is a hard call. I absolutely love Georges Auric's original score, and therefore approached the Philip Glass-scored version with a bit of trepidation. However, I saw the film with the new Philip Glass music performed live back in the 1990s and it was revelatory. As with many pieces by Glass, You just have to let yourself relax. You may start out saying, "What the Hell is is this?" BUT, if you just sit back and allow his music to take you over, you get it, you understand, and it works, and it speaks to you. Beauty and the Beast had some of the most touching, heartbreaking pieces he ever wrote. GLass really made Beauty and the Beast into an opera. That combination of opera/film may work for you, or it may not. Get the Criterion DVD. It has the original version with Auric's score and the one with the Glass score.

They are totally different animals. In my opinion, they are both great.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Why do you guys keep calling glass' Music in terms of being a "score" comprising of "cues." It's not a film score rather it's an opera that can be done with or without the film. The recoridng of the Philip Glass Ensemble is one arrangement. That was required to be able to synchronize to the film.

I love the music but the experience of seeing it (twice) reaffirms to be how bizarre the whole thing is. Glass is right that about 8 minutes in people give up fighting what it is and accept it. Once you do you can take it in as a musical theater work/opera.

On the other hand, the regular version for standard chamber orchestra and singers who aren't bound to synchronization is a much more traditionally enjoyable experience (for me).

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

It's a great opera and a wonderful idea. I enjoyed it ever since it came out.

Glass' score is excellent, and the singers well cast. Glass is -- by the way -- very much a fan of the music by Georges Auric, and he views his work as an opera based on the film as staging and by no means a "replacement" film score, which is why he wants it performed live and no official BluRay/DVD exists with synchronized picture.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

This reminds me to renew my hopes that the Chandos/Gamba team will do a re-recording of the brilliant Georges Auric score in their film music series at some point. The recording by Adriano on Naxos is only partially satisfactory – the dreamier, atmospheric sections are quite nicely done, but the more energetic and powerful pieces are rather ragged. And the overall sound is dull and distant. Chandos has already done one Auric CD in its Film Music series, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for another.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

....and no official BluRay/DVD exists with synchronized picture.....

So every Criterion release of Beauty and the Beast since 2003 isn't "official"?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2017 - 11:01 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

It's a great opera and a wonderful idea. I enjoyed it ever since it came out.

Glass' score is excellent, and the singers well cast. Glass is -- by the way -- very much a fan of the music by Georges Auric, and he views his work as an opera based on the film as staging and by no means a "replacement" film score, which is why he wants it performed live and no official BluRay/DVD exists with synchronized picture.


I repeat what I said in my original reply... The Criterion DVD offers the option of watching the film in sync with Glass' opera. Also, if Glass wanted his opera to be performed separately from the film, why would he compose it so that it is synchronized with the film, and why did the Philip Glass ensemble perform this opera live in sync with the projected film in many cities?

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 2:42 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

It's a great opera and a wonderful idea. I enjoyed it ever since it came out.

Glass' score is excellent, and the singers well cast. Glass is -- by the way -- very much a fan of the music by Georges Auric, and he views his work as an opera based on the film as staging and by no means a "replacement" film score, which is why he wants it performed live and no official BluRay/DVD exists with synchronized picture.


I repeat what I said in my original reply... The Criterion DVD offers the option of watching the film in sync with Glass' opera. Also, if Glass wanted his opera to be performed separately from the film, why would he compose it so that it is synchronized with the film, and why did the Philip Glass ensemble perform this opera live in sync with the projected film in many cities?


I obviously did not mean to challange that the Criterion release with Glass' music exists; I admit to not having seen the Criterion release, but I was under the impression it offers the Glass opera merely from an existing recording (which was not performed to picture) as an alternative soundtrack, but that it was not specifically recorded to sync with the picture?
I'm pretty sure in the original liner notes to the opera Glass said something like that, though I admit it's been a while since I read the booklet; I bought it when it was originally released.

 
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