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 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I got the CD set today, much improved sound quality over the original CDs. And at a bargain price to boot! Great release Bruce.


This is exactly what I was looking for.

I'm curious: I see that there's an Intrada twofer "Dangerous Crossing/Pickup" featuring Newman and Harline again. Does anyone own this one?

I was especially happy listening to the clips from "Dangerous Crossing", and am definitely getting more interested in Harline. The packaging is also so cool to me.

Anyone's input would be massively appreciated!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   sr-miller   (Member)

I got the CD set today, much improved sound quality over the original CDs. And at a bargain price to boot! Great release Bruce.


This is exactly what I was looking for.

I'm curious: I see that there's an Intrada twofer "Dangerous Crossing/Pickup" featuring Newman and Harline again. Does anyone own this one?

I was especially happy listening to the clips from "Dangerous Crossing", and am definitely getting more interested in Harline. The packaging is also so cool to me.

Anyone's input would be massively appreciated!


You may be interested, the Dangerous Crossing DVD has an isolated score track.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I got the CD set today, much improved sound quality over the original CDs. And at a bargain price to boot! Great release Bruce.


This is exactly what I was looking for.

I'm curious: I see that there's an Intrada twofer "Dangerous Crossing/Pickup" featuring Newman and Harline again. Does anyone own this one?

I was especially happy listening to the clips from "Dangerous Crossing", and am definitely getting more interested in Harline. The packaging is also so cool to me.

Anyone's input would be massively appreciated!


You may be interested, the Dangerous Crossing DVD has an isolated score track.


Thanks! Another for the cart...

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm curious: I see that there's an Intrada twofer "Dangerous Crossing/Pickup" featuring Newman and Harline again. Does anyone own this one?

I was especially happy listening to the clips from "Dangerous Crossing", and am definitely getting more interested in Harline. The packaging is also so cool to me.

Anyone's input would be massively appreciated!


Hi WA! I own the original Intrada releases of all three discs: Hell and High Water (Alfred Newman), House of Bamboo (Leigh Harline), and the Dangerous Crossing/Pickup on South Street twofer. I think I paid full price, or $60, for them all. I strongly encourage you to get the Kritzerland 2-CD set (containing all three of those except for Dangerous Crossing) for the price of 1 instead, and aside from price ($20 list, and it was included in a sale not long ago for only $10 which might happen again) here's why: the Kritzerland is a remaster of all three, with Hell and High Water receiving a significant facelift in particular. Several folks have chimed in saying how much the sound is improved, in this very thread I think.

There are only three reasons to favor the Intrada releases despite them being OOP and not as good of a deal as the Kritzerland: 1) Better liner notes. I know Bruce prefers the way he does liner notes but many of us prefer more detailed, more researched, more in depth booklets...if we care about liner notes at all, that is. I know some people don't. 2) Superior cover art, for each film. Since Bruce's release is a three-fer based on the director of those films, he did a composite solution, but I prefer the original Intrada covers. Thankfully, you can still buy Bruce's CD and then just access the Intrada covers digitally for your iTunes or whatever music player you use (just click "download artwork"):
Hell and High Water: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4063/.f
House of Bamboo: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4799/.f
Pickup on South Street (with Dangerous Crossing): http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6295/.f?sc=16&category=23352

Which brings me to Dangerous Crossing, the third consideration since the Kritzerland twofer does not include it: it's not bad by any means; it's good music. But I would just point out that it is a cobbled-together composite score based primarily on two previous existing scores, rather than music that was composed specifically for this picture. Read more about it here:
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2878
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=61695&archive=0

The two primary music sources used (though I would point out they may have been slightly rearranged and definitely were re-recorded for the new film):
Sol Kaplan's House on Telegraph Hill, an excellent score (one of my favorite Kaplan scores) also released separately by Intrada here:
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7182/.f
Alfred Newman's The Snake Pit, complete original recording released by Varese...nab that OOP album for a good price here, before someone else jumps on it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0089Z90RW/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1529278158&sr=8-1&keywords=snake+pit+three+faces

So yeah...my recommendation would be to go for the full original scores in those two cases rather than the composite "library music" score cobbled together from both of them (and a few other small sources) for Dangerous Crossing.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I'm curious: I see that there's an Intrada twofer "Dangerous Crossing/Pickup" featuring Newman and Harline again. Does anyone own this one?

I was especially happy listening to the clips from "Dangerous Crossing", and am definitely getting more interested in Harline. The packaging is also so cool to me.

Anyone's input would be massively appreciated!


Hi WA! I own the original Intrada releases of all three discs: Hell and High Water (Alfred Newman), House of Bamboo (Leigh Harline), and the Dangerous Crossing/Pickup on South Street twofer. I think I paid full price, or $60, for them all. I strongly encourage you to get the Kritzerland 2-CD set (containing all three of those except for Dangerous Crossing) for the price of 1 instead, and aside from price ($20 list, and it was included in a sale not long ago for only $10 which might happen again) here's why: the Kritzerland is a remaster of all three, with Hell and High Water receiving a significant facelift in particular. Several folks have chimed in saying how much the sound is improved, in this very thread I think.

There are only three reasons to favor the Intrada releases despite them being OOP and not as good of a deal as the Kritzerland: 1) Better liner notes. I know Bruce prefers the way he does liner notes but many of us prefer more detailed, more researched, more in depth booklets...if we care about liner notes at all, that is. I know some people don't. 2) Superior cover art, for each film. Since Bruce's release is a three-fer based on the director of those films, he did a composite solution, but I prefer the original Intrada covers. Thankfully, you can still buy Bruce's CD and then just access the Intrada covers digitally for your iTunes or whatever music player you use (just click "download artwork"):
Hell and High Water: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4063/.f
House of Bamboo: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.4799/.f
Pickup on South Street (with Dangerous Crossing): http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6295/.f?sc=16&category=23352

Which brings me to Dangerous Crossing, the third consideration since the Kritzerland twofer does not include it: it's not bad by any means; it's good music. But I would just point out that it is a cobbled-together composite score based primarily on two previous existing scores, rather than music that was composed specifically for this picture. Read more about it here:
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2878
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=61695&archive=0

The two primary music sources used (though I would point out they may have been slightly rearranged and definitely were re-recorded for the new film):
Sol Kaplan's House on Telegraph Hill, an excellent score (one of my favorite Kaplan scores) also released separately by Intrada here:
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7182/.f
Alfred Newman's The Snake Pit, complete original recording released by Varese...nab that OOP album for a good price here, before someone else jumps on it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0089Z90RW/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1529278158&sr=8-1&keywords=snake+pit+three+faces

So yeah...my recommendation would be to go for the full original scores in those two cases rather than the composite "library music" score cobbled together from both of them (and a few other small sources) for Dangerous Crossing.

Yavar


Whew! Super glad I waited on DC, I almost pulled the trigger. I already love Hell and High Water (from the twofer with Above and Beyond which I also loved) and obviously FaF is the one to get for CDs. Plus it gives me a chance to (finally) give another composer a chance...of course the REAL draw is... smile

So grateful "Someone Saved My Life Tonight"! FaF in the cart!

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Whew! Super glad I waited on DC, I almost pulled the trigger. I already love Hell and High Water (from the twofer with Above and Beyond which I also loved) and obviously FaF is the one to get for CDs. Plus it gives me a chance to (finally) give another composer a chance...of course the REAL draw is... smile


I think you may have ended up with a bootleg or something for Hell and High Water/Above and Beyond. The FSM release is the only legit source for the latter:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/15842/Above+And+Beyond

And the Intrada solo release or Kritzerland three-fer are the only legit sources for the former:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/16678/Hell+And+High+Water

Mousitki Akti, Tsunami, Soundstage, Soundtrack Library...all bootleg labels, basically.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)


Whew! Super glad I waited on DC, I almost pulled the trigger. I already love Hell and High Water (from the twofer with Above and Beyond which I also loved) and obviously FaF is the one to get for CDs. Plus it gives me a chance to (finally) give another composer a chance...of course the REAL draw is... smile


I think you may have ended up with a bootleg or something for Hell and High Water/Above and Beyond. The FSM release is the only legit source for the latter:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/15842/Above+And+Beyond

And the Intrada solo release or Kritzerland three-fer are the only legit sources for the former:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/16678/Hell+And+High+Water

Mousitki Akti, Tsunami, Soundstage, Soundtrack Library...all bootleg labels, basically.

Yavar


I'm just grateful I could hear (and in the case of HoHW go crazy over) the scores. And Snake Pit is in my cart too! More Alfred!

Still waiting for Dr. Kildare, really psyched up for it by now!!!!!! And so love Sand Pebbles.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2021 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

Not criticism, just observation. Looking at this thread from 2017 I noticed the following comments...

haineshisway: Yes, just a typo - the track is, of course, on the CD and we'll fix the typo on the website. 8/29/2017.

The track listing on the Kritzerland website still says the track in question is on not on the CD ("Mariko's Story").

haineshisway: Next time, dear Bob, I'll just start it where I should have - 23.98 - we'd sell just as many at that price and I should have trusted my instincts. But it will go up within the next couple of weeks after the pre-orders have leveled off. 8/30/2017.

The price is still 19.98 on the Kritzerland website.

 
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