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 Posted:   Sep 20, 2017 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   clayhenry   (Member)

It's been three years since the last premiere release of a John Morris score (thanks, La-La Land for "The In-Laws"!), and I think it's time for more of his wonderful music to be released on CD. While numerous of his film scores have been released, only two of his TV scores have been released, which is a shame because he wrote some of his best music for the small screen.

Does anyone know if there are any plans in the near future for any label to release more of his scores?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2017 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I agree! smile

I haven't heard about any upcoming releases, though.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2017 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Could not agree more. Really hoping to see the likes of SILENT MOVIE, HIGH ANXIETY or YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN sometime soon.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2017 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

As MV pointed out, the "Lots of people not buying previous releases" factor is kind of an unsurmountable problem.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Haunted Honeymoon is $5 at LALALAND!! Buy that!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 1:34 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Yes, first buy all the John Morris CDs before asking for more. Sadly, one of our all-time lowest sellers. Thank goodness for the show collectors because A Time for Singing at least did well enough to justify its cost. All you Morris lovers have that one, right? Right? What is the sound of one hand clapping, I wonder.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   clayhenry   (Member)

I HAVE bought all of the previous releases. That's why I would like to see more.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

I HAVE bought all of the previous releases. That's why I would like to see more.

Exactly. Thank you.

And if someone could shine a light on the situation with FRESNO, that'd be great.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'm a Jerry Goldsmith lover. Doesn't mean I either love nor want every title released.

I find it odd people think both go hand-in-hand; well, if you love this score by Brian Kilkline, then why the fuck didn't you buy that score? It doesn't work that way.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm a Jerry Goldsmith lover. Doesn't mean I either love nor want every title released.

I find it odd people think both go hand-in-hand; well, if you love this score by Brian Kilkline, then why the fuck didn't you buy that score? It doesn't work that way.


Fair enough, but there are certainly general buying trends that are observable. In general, CDs that say “music by Jerry Goldsmith” sell well, while CDs that say “music by John Morris” sell poorly. Obviously there are myriad other factors at work. But if it were my money on the line, I’d be more apt to spend mine putting out scores with one of those names on the covers rather than the other.

Getting to something empirically provable, I’ll say it’s a real shame other people aren’t enjoying “The In-Laws.” Obviously, we all have our own tastes, but to me, that is one delightful listen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

It's "personal taste" -- you flew over it during your flight to Overthinking It Land. ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2017 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   clayhenry   (Member)

I HAVE bought all of the previous releases. That's why I would like to see more.

Exactly. Thank you.

And if someone could shine a light on the situation with FRESNO, that'd be great.


"Fresno" would be a wonderful listen. It has a wonderful main title.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2017 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I would really like to see the excellent YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN on CD!

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2017 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   emusician   (Member)

I would really like to see the excellent YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN on CD!

This indeed.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   purplemonkeydishwasher   (Member)

Haunted Honeymoon is $5 at LALALAND!! Buy that!

Thank you for the recommendation peterproud! I just did, and it's fantastic!

While I was there I noted:

Blazing Saddles - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Spaceballs - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Clue - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print

I am of course not as knowledgeable as our friends who run the labels, and I don't know how long it might have taken for these to sell out, but these seem like some pretty decent numbers to me.

Those 3 were all fairly or extremely popular movies, and I wouldn't doubt the fact that a couple of them being Mel Brooks' properties helped move some units. It seems reasonable to me that Young Frankenstein and High Anxiety would generate interest beyond just the hardcore "soundtrack collecting community." In Young Frankenstein, the theme was even integral to the plot, it being the "siren song" that lures the monster back to the castle. The music was also a very prominent, integral part of High Anxiety. ("What a dramatic airport!" -- or the bus with the frenetically performing Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra pulling up alongside the car Mel is riding in!)

I don't necessarily gravitate toward orchestral scores, but John Morris' work on these movies that are parodying Golden Age films is something special. His music helps ground the films and provide some weight to them. And I'm not exactly sure how to describe his music in these -- parody? recreation? homage? -- none of these words seems exactly right. He has the talent to be able to create a note-perfect "Golden Age" score, but one that somehow has this edge to it. If his work was a picture, rather than music, I might describe it as "painterly."

About 5 years back, the Wounded Bird label issued a CD of the original 1978 "High Anxiety" LP, and it sold out fast:

https://www.discogs.com/John-Morris-Mel-Brooks-High-Anxiety-Original-Soundtrack-Mel-Brooks-Greatest-Hits-Featuring-The-Fabul/release/9980811

I was barely able (and lucky enough) to snap up a copy because it seemed like it immediately went out of print. It has a couple of tracks devoted to Morris’ underscore, but a full soundtrack release would be incredible.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   clayhenry   (Member)

Haunted Honeymoon is $5 at LALALAND!! Buy that!

Thank you for the recommendation peterproud! I just did, and it's fantastic!

While I was there I noted:

Blazing Saddles - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Spaceballs - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Clue - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print

I am of course not as knowledgeable as our friends who run the labels, and I don't know how long it might have taken for these to sell out, but these seem like some pretty decent numbers to me.

Those 3 were all fairly or extremely popular movies, and I wouldn't doubt the fact that a couple of them being Mel Brooks' properties helped move some units. It seems reasonable to me that Young Frankenstein and High Anxiety would generate interest beyond just the hardcore "soundtrack collecting community." In Young Frankenstein, the theme was even integral to the plot, it being the "siren song" that lures the monster back to the castle. The music was also a very prominent, integral part of High Anxiety. ("What a dramatic airport!" -- or the bus with the frenetically performing Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra pulling up alongside the car Mel is riding in!)

I don't necessarily gravitate toward orchestral scores, but John Morris' work on these movies that are parodying Golden Age films is something special. His music helps ground the films and provide some weight to them. And I'm not exactly sure how to describe his music in these -- parody? recreation? homage? -- none of these words seems exactly right. He has the talent to be able to create a note-perfect "Golden Age" score, but one that somehow has this edge to it. If his work was a picture, rather than music, I might describe it as "painterly."

About 5 years back, the Wounded Bird label issued a CD of the original 1978 "High Anxiety" LP, and it sold out fast:

https://www.discogs.com/John-Morris-Mel-Brooks-High-Anxiety-Original-Soundtrack-Mel-Brooks-Greatest-Hits-Featuring-The-Fabul/release/9980811

I was barely able (and lucky enough) to snap up a copy because it seemed like it immediately went out of print. It has a couple of tracks devoted to Morris’ underscore, but a full soundtrack release would be incredible.


Thanks so much for your wonderful comments. I definitely think "Young Frankenstein" and "High Anxiety," not to mention "The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother," would be best sellers. If limited editions, they would probably sell out.

His scores for comedy films are only the tip of the iceberg. Morris has written some lovely dramatic scores for television. More of his music should be released.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

While I was there I noted:

Blazing Saddles - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Spaceballs - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print
Clue - Limited Edition of 3000 units - out of print

I am of course not as knowledgeable as our friends who run the labels, and I don't know how long it might have taken for these to sell out, but these seem like some pretty decent numbers to me.



I don't know if this is the case with those particular titles, but just because a CD is out of print doesn't necessarily mean it is sold out.

The labels don't tend to get all 3000 copies of a 3000 unit limited title pressed all at once. They tend to get a smaller amount pressed (say, 1000 or 1500, it all depends on the title), and then only press more if there is demand for that title. There have definitely been cases in the past where the initial pressing has sold out so slowly (or not at all) that more copies were not pressed, and so only a fraction of the 3000 were ever actually produced (Lukas Kendall discussed some examples of this happening on the FSM label in a fascinating series of articles he posted when the label ended.)

There are also situations where a licence is for a limited timescale, and once it runs out the label can't sell any more copies, whether or not they sold out.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I definitely think "Young Frankenstein" and "High Anxiety," not to mention "The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother," would be best sellers.

I'm sorry, but on what are you basing this?

La La Land has released, by my quick recollection, five John Morris scores. Why have they decided to stop? Out of ignorance? Or because they know better than we do how those releases panned out for them?

I don't mean to be rude, but if I were looking to lose money, I can't think of a better way than releasing the soundtrack to the long-forgotten comedy "The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother."

 
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