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Jul 16, 2018 - 6:27 AM
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Can somebody recommend if I should get and watch the first two sequels to this as well? I haven't seen them in forever, and I only really know the first film.
Forget the others. Live Free was largely bad, and A Good Day is to "this day", the WORST action film I've seen in a theater possibly ever. I couldn't even have fun with it, it was just too brainless to enjoy and I pretty much hated every minute of it. Jai Courtney alone.... eek! 
Live Free and Good Day to me are just generic, badly made action movies with Bruce Willis in them. At no point do they feel like a Die Hard movie. Part of that of course may be because they don't have a Kamen score attached to them.
If you enjoyed the first one, I personally would recommend the second & third ones. Die Harder really feels like a sequel in that it copies the formula of the first one a bit too much. The setting is now an airport, but it's again Christmas, McClane's wife is again in jeopardy, etc. So, not quite as good as nr 1, but still highly enjoyable in a way they don't make action movies like that anymore.
Die Hard with a Vengeance stands more on its own. It feels less like a copy-paste from the first two helped in part by moving to New York and being set during a summer day instead of a Christmas night. I also think that pairing Bruce Willis with Samuel L. Jackson worked really well. It's more a buddy movie in the vein of the Lethal Weapon series.
For me:
Die Hard *****
Die Hard with a Vengeance ****
Die Harder ***
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Jul 16, 2018 - 7:27 AM
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Live Free and Good Day to me are just generic, badly made action movies with Bruce Willis in them. At no point do they feel like a Die Hard movie. Part of that of course may be because they don't have a Kamen score attached to them.
If you enjoyed the first one, I personally would recommend the second & third ones. Die Harder really feels like a sequel in that it copies the formula of the first one a bit too much. The setting is now an airport, but it's again Christmas, McClane's wife is again in jeopardy, etc. So, not quite as good as nr 1, but still highly enjoyable in a way they don't make action movies like that anymore.
Die Hard with a Vengeance stands more on its own. It feels less like a copy-paste from the first two helped in part by moving to New York and being set during a summer day instead of a Christmas night. I also think that pairing Bruce Willis with Samuel L. Jackson worked really well. It's more a buddy movie in the vein of the Lethal Weapon series.
For me:
Die Hard *****
Die Hard with a Vengeance ****
Die Harder ***
I agree with your comment and your ranking, but I think I'd actually put Live Free or Die Hard above Die Harder. I liked Live Free or Die Hard, mainly for the banter between McClane and Farrell and Gabriel.
Olyphant was the highlight of the film for me.
Incidentally, the original is showing at my local cinema on July 27. I'd love to go if I can swing it.
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Can somebody recommend if I should get and watch the first two sequels to this as well? I haven't seen them in forever, and I only really know the first film.
Forget the others. Live Free was largely bad, and A Good Day is to "this day", the WORST action film I've seen in a theater possibly ever. I couldn't even have fun with it, it was just too brainless to enjoy and I pretty much hated every minute of it. Jai Courtney alone.... eek!
Live Free and Good Day to me are just generic, badly made action movies with Bruce Willis in them. At no point do they feel like a Die Hard movie. Part of that of course may be because they don't have a Kamen score attached to them.
If you enjoyed the first one, I personally would recommend the second & third ones. Die Harder really feels like a sequel in that it copies the formula of the first one a bit too much. The setting is now an airport, but it's again Christmas, McClane's wife is again in jeopardy, etc. So, not quite as good as nr 1, but still highly enjoyable in a way they don't make action movies like that anymore.
Die Hard with a Vengeance stands more on its own. It feels less like a copy-paste from the first two helped in part by moving to New York and being set during a summer day instead of a Christmas night. I also think that pairing Bruce Willis with Samuel L. Jackson worked really well. It's more a buddy movie in the vein of the Lethal Weapon series.
For me:
Die Hard *****
Die Hard with a Vengeance ****
Die Harder ***
While the theatrical version definitely did not age well (I saw it when I was 12 and thought it was badass), the CBS TV edit of Die Hard 2 is an all-timer, though. I wish someone would release that cut on some sort of digital format. The guy they got to dub Willis sounds more like Schwarzenegger trying to do a New York accent and it's so goddamn good.
The third movie was an original script that they tried to turn into a Lethal Weapon movie, but it somehow fell to the Die Hard franchise. Despite the production values looking incredibly slim for an actual NYC shoot (from casting to Kamen's score, it's like they picked up most of the supporting cast from Hardee's corporate headquarters and recorded the score in the commissary), the movie is great fun for about 90 minutes and then just kinda Simon Peters out.
The LLL edition of the score is not quite a revelation - it still sounds cheap as hell with the out-of-their-element Seattle Symphony - but there are a lot of way better cues on there than you hear in the movie.
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Jul 16, 2018 - 11:58 AM
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Tom Servo
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Can somebody recommend if I should get and watch the first two sequels to this as well? I haven't seen them in forever, and I only really know the first film.
Forget the others. Live Free was largely bad, and A Good Day is to "this day", the WORST action film I've seen in a theater possibly ever. I couldn't even have fun with it, it was just too brainless to enjoy and I pretty much hated every minute of it. Jai Courtney alone.... eek!
Live Free and Good Day to me are just generic, badly made action movies with Bruce Willis in them. At no point do they feel like a Die Hard movie. Part of that of course may be because they don't have a Kamen score attached to them.
If you enjoyed the first one, I personally would recommend the second & third ones. Die Harder really feels like a sequel in that it copies the formula of the first one a bit too much. The setting is now an airport, but it's again Christmas, McClane's wife is again in jeopardy, etc. So, not quite as good as nr 1, but still highly enjoyable in a way they don't make action movies like that anymore.
Die Hard with a Vengeance stands more on its own. It feels less like a copy-paste from the first two helped in part by moving to New York and being set during a summer day instead of a Christmas night. I also think that pairing Bruce Willis with Samuel L. Jackson worked really well. It's more a buddy movie in the vein of the Lethal Weapon series.
For me:
Die Hard *****
Die Hard with a Vengeance ****
Die Harder ***
While the theatrical version definitely did not age well (I saw it when I was 12 and thought it was badass), the CBS TV edit of Die Hard 2 is an all-timer, though. I wish someone would release that cut on some sort of digital format. The guy they got to dub Willis sounds more like Schwarzenegger trying to do a New York accent and it's so goddamn good.
The third movie was an original script that they tried to turn into a Lethal Weapon movie, but it somehow fell to the Die Hard franchise. Despite the production values looking incredibly slim for an actual NYC shoot (from casting to Kamen's score, it's like they picked up most of the supporting cast from Hardee's corporate headquarters and recorded the score in the commissary), the movie is great fun for about 90 minutes and then just kinda Simon Peters out.
The LLL edition of the score is not quite a revelation - it still sounds cheap as hell with the out-of-their-element Seattle Symphony - but there are a lot of way better cues on there than you hear in the movie.
What still amazes me about Kamen's score for Die Hard with a Vengeance is the wealth of unused music, so much of it being an absolute winner, such as "Ode To Johnny".
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