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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Your choice for Star Trek's best love theme?

I would make the movies a separate category, and Jerry's Ilia overture is probably a lock for that award if we voted. But Giacchino's "Labor of Love" is more compelling in my estimation.

The spinoff series? I never memorized their episode scores, and (sorry, but) a lot them were sustained "aaahm" sounds rather than themes. I'm sure I could be schooled on that, but if so, let's make them a separate category too.

The Original Series category. This is a more crowded field of contenders. I don't have my CDs and liner notes here at work, so this listing is a little rough about the cue names and has room for refinement:

Alexander Courage
- Vina cues (The Cage)
- Medicine Girl (The Naked Time)

Joseph Mullendore
- Love Scene LM4 (Miri, Court Martial)
- Quasi-Sex ("Lounge Mix") (Conscience of the King, Court Martial)
- Lenore cues (Conscience of the King)

Fred Steiner
- Mudd's Women (various cues)
- Meet Andrea (What are Little Girls Made Of?)
- Edith cues (City on the Edge of Forever)
- Carolyn-Apollo cues (Who Mourns for Adonais?)
- Kalinda cues (By Any Other Name)
- Marlena cues (Mirror, Mirror)
- Magic Tears, Goodbye Elaan (Elaan of Troyius)

Gerald Fried
- Ruth cues (Shore Leave, This Side of Paradise)
- Love Sort Of (Catspaw)
- Miramanee cues (The Paradise Syndrome)

George Duning
- Metamorphosis
- Return to Tomorrow
- Is There in Truth No Beauty?
- The Empath

Jerry Fielding
- Love Scene in Old West (Spectre of the Gun)

It's funny that George Duning is known as Star Trek's love theme guy, when Fred Steiner wrote more of them, and top-quality ones at that. Also, it's hard to pick one winner when so many of these themes are enduring classics.

Right now, I have to say The Empath is my choice for Best, and Elaan of Troyius is runner up. (That's another little irony: Troyius is usually revered for its battle music, but the love theme is really good as well).

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

My favorites are the Fred Steiner love themes.
#1 the Andrea/Kalinda theme
but also the Marlena theme, I like how Steiner developed it masterfully out of the dramatic underscore

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Can only really pick out one from the original series at the mo', due to being unable to think. So if it's gonna be only one, Duning's "Metamorphosis" is the one that has haunted me for nearly 50 years.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The Cage wins.

I add "New Sexy Exotic" to that album, even though it is by a different composer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't recall liking any of the "love" themes from TOS. They had that sappy 40's love theme sound. Were there any love themes in the TOS films other than Ilia's Theme?

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Sappy "Metamorphosis" for me...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Sappy "Metamorphosis" for me...

That music needs to be sampled for some downtempo loungey electronica.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

The Enterprise.

Sorry, I missed that you discounted the movies.

Ok, 2nd Ruth.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Ok, 2nd Ruth.

Perhaps a little bit overused? big grin

A great piece of music though! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Sappy "Metamorphosis" for me...

That music needs to be sampled for some downtempo loungey electronica.


That would be great!
Any hobby-musicians here who are interested ;-) ?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   tex1272   (Member)

"Love, Sort Of" from Catspaw. But I preferred it looped as heard in A Private Little War.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Alexander Courage
- Vina cues (The Cage)
- Medicine Girl (The Naked Time)

Joseph Mullendore
- Love Scene LM4 (Miri, Court Martial)
- Quasi-Sex ("Lounge Mix") (Conscience of the King, Court Martial)
- Lenore cues (Conscience of the King)

Fred Steiner
- Mudd's Women (various cues)
- Meet Andrea (What are Little Girls Made Of?)
- Edith cues (City on the Edge of Forever)
- Carolyn-Apollo cues (Who Mourns for Adonais?)
- Kalinda cues (By Any Other Name)
- Marlena cues (Mirror, Mirror)
- Magic Tears, Goodbye Elaan (Elaan of Troyius)

Gerald Fried
- Ruth cues (Shore Leave, This Side of Paradise)
- Miramanee cues (The Paradise Syndrome)

George Duning
- Metamorphosis
- Return to Tomorrow
- Is There in Truth No Beauty?
- The Empath


Why is Jerry Fielding's "Love Scene in Old West" (from Spectre of the Gun) absent? wink
There are multiple such omissions from your list (not only Fielding) ... this is understandable, though.
Star Trek was a program that did not shirk any opportunity to accentuate actresses' anatomy via revealing costumes designed by William Ware Theiss. Composers were obligated to provide music which supported female pulchritude. Thus, melodies were written (and performed) to announce to the audience (some might say telegraph) a sexually attractive woman.
As such, these types of compositions may not all be love themes, per se, but they all communicate a form of 'beauty' according to the perspectives of the mid-20th century Caucasian (heterosexual) male.

Personally, the ones I like most tend to be 'seduction' music, such as Mr. Spock's private scenes with the female Romulan commander in The Enterprise Incident or Capt. Kirk taking advantage of Sylvia's newfound corporeal senses in Catspaw.
Both of these are not referenced in the listing above.

But, to answer this thread's question with a single answer, my vote for 'best' love theme is the one that George Duning wrote for Miranda (either with Mad Marvick or sentimental Jim).

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Can only really pick out one from the original series at the mo', due to being unable to think. So if it's gonna be only one, Duning's "Metamorphosis" is the one that has haunted me for nearly 50 years.

Count me in on Duning`s METARMORPHOSIS
And also two other Duning theme`s : RETURN TO TOMORROW & THE EMPATH.

All three scores have truly heartbreaking love themes.

And even i saw all other Star trek-Series (from TNG to ENTERPRISE), but NO other series has just one specific love theme i can remember at all.
The only theme i can remember very well is the "Picard`s Theme" (the alternate main title) from the early TNG-seasons by Dennis McCarthy (but thats of course no love theme at all).

The music of TOS (and specially the themes mentioned above) made such an impression on me, so that it was
(and is) my companion since my early youth.
For me, it`s just better (television) music with much more spirit, then most of the "modern" compositions used the last 40 years.

Most of the music written for TOS was and is just true (and really great) art!

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

The Enterprise.

Sorry, I missed that you discounted the movies.

Ok, 2nd Ruth.


Yeah I'd go with exactly this. Every bit of Fried's music for Shore Leave is iconic.
That one episode alone has more memorable cues than some composers entire output.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Right now, I have to say The Empath is my choice for Best, and Elaan of Troyius is runner up. (That's another little irony: Troyius is usually revered for its battle music, but the love theme is really good as well).

While I love Duning's music for The Empath, is his theme for Gem an actual love theme?
Gem does not make love to any of the Enterprise crew. In this case, Duning's theme is a theme for a beautiful alien life form.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

The Enterprise.

Sorry, I missed that you discounted the movies.


"The Enterprise" is a love theme?

I'd go with Steiner's Marlena cues.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The Enterprise.

Sorry, I missed that you discounted the movies.


"The Enterprise" is a love theme?


It is for Kirk, absolutely. The look on his face when he sees her again is the look of a man reuinited with his lost love.

The Mirror, Mirror and Metamorphosis themes for me. 2nd Ruth was done to death in just two episodes...

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

So many great choices but I heard few love themes as moving as Gerald Fried's for Kirk ad Miramanee.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Anyone ever figure out which one of these became the Ceti Eel theme from WoK?

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2018 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Duning is my favorite Trek composer because I love his romantic sound. Almost always a snug fit for the tone of an episode. However for a theme used clearly and pointedly as a tune for two characters I'd have to go with Steiner's RUTH.

 
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