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I thought this might be worth at least one bump, in case folks missed it -- I'd really love to hear what people think of these two pieces. Yavar
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I'll bump up my no-reply thread and raise you one: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=130270 Btw, did Grams get the music notes from the TWZ Cafe, or other way round? Probably neither. According to a podcasted interview I found, Grams had access to thorough documents, and a connection who had access to all or most of the CBS Music Library. He listed each cue used in every Twilight Zone episode in order, by name, with a running time for how much was used at each point, and with the composer cited. He did not give time stamps. Dan Hollis cited the same info except for the lengths used, and added the time stamps, and described what was happening in the moment, and occasionally how tracks were blended, when it was significant. It seems like two separate projects that just overlapped well.
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Well, these 78s are pretty rare, but both Ron Burbella's and Bill Wrobel's seem pretty poor in terms of sound quality, sadly. Worse than LPs of that era would be. Yavar
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I liked the Jailbreak cue quite a bit. Definitely Goldsmith in his early action style. So glad you dig it! How 'bout those trumpet punctuations in the second half? Super cool, right? Acetates deteriorate faster than LPs. 78s from the hi-fi era would not, if they were treated well. I've read comments from people over the years about how 78s deteriorate faster...maybe not inherently because of the material, but possibly because they are played at a higher speed than LPs or something? That may be true, but that could be because they were pressed on lousy vinyl (or styrene) and/or played with the wrong needle. There is nothing in the 78 medium that makes them inherently worse than LPs, certainly not by the time that Goldsmith was working. Are you sure they were pressed, and that they are not acetates? Wasn't it unusual even for 78s to be used at all, by the 60s? Why would they be used instead of LPs? It really does seem a bit of a mystery, these TransWorld discs...I'm glad they were made though or otherwise we wouldn't have a good chunk of fantastic Goldsmith music! (Part 2 of our CBS Music Library Spectacular is dropping this evening, which features a good amount of additional music from these, most notably the 7-part Autumn Love which is a gorgeous string score.) You can find other discs' images online too if you search. Really hope someone can rescue more great CBS Music Library cues in good sound from the original tapes...the Prometheus "Volume One" label on their Jerry Goldsmith: The Early Years album really makes me think there is indeed more Gold to be mined there. And who the hell mispronounced "Herrmann" on that podcast? Are you sure it's a full on mispronunciation and not just someone's accent? If you give us a rough timestamp we can check. Yavar
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So, where do these cues begin? I tried to listen a couple weeks ago, but found the podcast and didn't want to wade through it.
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It's in literally my second sentence above -- "skip to around 49 minutes in" Yavar
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Well, I only clicked on the link rather than read a long post about two cues. I thought I'd be getting a link with the two cues and that's it.
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Again, literally my second sentence of the post before the link: "Even if you don't normally care about listening to podcasts, I hope you'll skip to around 49 minutes into our latest episode, where we "premiere"* these two fantastic music library cues for the general public:" I'm surprised you couldn't even be bothered to take the time to read that, considering how many hours you spend watching old obscure shows on the internet to provide neat score overviews for things by obscure TV composers like Duane Tatro that will fairly likely never get released. (Keeping it real...I do realize that there were a few cues of his on the LLL Mission: Impossible set which itself was a miracle to get.) Just a little annoying to me since I *did* anticipate people like you who wouldn't want to "wade through the whole podcast", and I *did* provide a rough timestamp right before the link. Yavar
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I described why I didn't see it the first time. Condensation isn't necessary (at least it looks like that to me).
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double post -- oops
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I described why I didn't see it the first time. Condensation isn't necessary (at least it looks like that to me). Wasn't condescension; it was merely annoyance and some degree of incredulity that you didn't have time to read the second sentence of my post, rather than posting a request for something I already helpfully provided. And my entire initial post wasn't even very long. So...what do you think of those two cues, assuming you've given them a listen? Yavar
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I'm listening to a radio show, editing audio during the breaks (sometimes as the radio show is airing), then I'll be doing more "cover Up" afterwards -- I haven't had a chance yet, that's why I haven't commented on either cue.
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You're right. I haven't been getting enough sleep lately, which is probably why I'm crabby. Sorry for my tone, Justin. I very much appreciate the work you do covering obscure TV scores at length, to be clear. Yavar
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