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 Posted:   Oct 26, 2018 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Yavar, I respect you, but this is the stupidest thing I've read in a while. Mixing parts of one album with another is a terrible idea and I don't know how someone could even think of such nonsense. I never understood also what's the point to get a physical CD, then import it to your itunes and then never play the CD again.

If you buy an original CD album, especially released by someone who pretends to be a professional, then its supposed to be well made. Good design and liner notes are not gravy. They are fundamental ingredients of the final product that is intended to be sold to a very specific target. Yes, the music is the most important, but the rest adds so much to the general perception of the item.

DDD has done many beautifully packaged albums, so the plead that others have made on this particular one is please don't use this stock images anymore because they just looks awful. There are a lot of possibilities to make a great cover that doesn't look like rubbish, even without using any original footage of the film. Their own previous Poledouris Volumes are a good example.

And let me say that I personally don't dislike the Poledouris Collection 4 art so much, but their new Merrill Jenson Collection -- now that really hurt the eyes!



Interesting opinions to be sure.

The One thing that no one seems to be discussing is THE MUSIC.

Anyone who has purchased it from BSX directly got a digital download as both a ITUNES Friendly Mp3 version with a digital booklet and a 24 Bit version as well.

So some folks have already heard this release.

What I'm not seeing here is any comments about the album itself.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2018 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yavar, I respect you, but this is the stupidest thing I've read in a while.

Kind of a weird thing to say if you respect me. wink

Mixing parts of one album with another is a terrible idea and I don't know how someone could even think of such nonsense.

Some folks were acting like this was a strange album to put out on its own, calling it basically "bonus tracks". Well I kinda see where they are coming from, because other releases before this have included piano demos and such in a bonus section after the score proper (Intrada themselves included 12+ minutes of Elmer Bernstein piano demos in their Ten Commandments box set; other labels have included shorter piano demos of themes here and there, from Shirley Walker's Batman TAS to John Williams's None But the Brave).

Now, while Intrada could presumably included a second disc with demos on their release of The Blue Lagoon, I also can understand these getting their own album because there are so many of them! It's unusual to have this much piano demo material for a score, so maybe this unprecedented release isn't so strange after all. smile But "terrible idea" on your part seems a bit extreme considering piano demos have been included countless times before on score releases.

I never understood also what's the point to get a physical CD, then import it to your itunes and then never play the CD again.

It's not about a "point"; it just fits my listening habits. I like having physical media and owning a collection, but as far as ease of listening goes, I import my music into iTunes, upload it to the Cloud with iTunes Match, and then access my entire big collection on my iPhone whenever I want. While ideally I'd have the free time and money to invest in a "man cave" sort of music listening room with fancy speakers and sound proofing, I don't have that. So I make do with what allows me to most easily enjoy the music I have.

If you buy an original CD album, especially released by someone who pretends to be a professional, then its supposed to be well made. Good design and liner notes are not gravy. They are fundamental ingredients of the final product that is intended to be sold to a very specific target. Yes, the music is the most important, but the rest adds so much to the general perception of the item.

Similar to how the turkey and mashed potatoes are the most important, but the gravy adds so much to the general perception of the Thanksgiving dinner! But the gravy could not itself be the dinner, and while not as good, one could still have the dinner without gravy, with it still remaining dinner. Hence the use of "gravy" in this context all over the country. wink

Now I LOVE great liner notes and design. I worship at the altar of Jim Titus. I wish all releases could look as amazing as his. I wish all releases could have fantastic, detailed, and informative track by track liner notes by Jeff Bond, John Takis, and others. But if Kritzerland puts out one of my favorite scores with their typical/preferred minimal notes, I'm not going to ignore the great meal of music set in front of me.

Yavar

P.S. Ford, I don't have this album yet but when I eventually get it (and as a Poledouris completist, rest assured I will pick it up eventually) I will do my best to remember to post my thoughts here.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2018 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

All the talk about this being an album of "bonus tracks" seems to ignore the plain fact that the complete score was released without these so-called bonus tracks, so by definition this is the only way this particular music could be released. It's a weird criticism of this album to complain it wasn't part of another album released by a different company.

If you don't care for it, a good idea would be not to buy it.

I certainly wouldn't go for such a thing in general, but this score is a favorite of mine, and I'm intrigued. The sound sample was very promising.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

All the talk about this being an album of "bonus tracks" seems to ignore the plain fact that the complete score was released without these so-called bonus tracks, so by definition this is the only way this particular music could be released. It's a weird criticism of this album to complain it wasn't part of another album released by a different company.

If you don't care for it, a good idea would be not to buy it.

I certainly wouldn't go for such a thing in general, but this score is a favorite of mine, and I'm intrigued. The sound sample was very promising.


IMHO, it works very well as a album on it's own terms.

When you listen to you, make up your own mind.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2018 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

All the talk about this being an album of "bonus tracks" seems to ignore the plain fact that the complete score was released without these so-called bonus tracks, so by definition this is the only way this particular music could be released. It's a weird criticism of this album to complain it wasn't part of another album released by a different company.

If you don't care for it, a good idea would be not to buy it.

I certainly wouldn't go for such a thing in general, but this score is a favorite of mine, and I'm intrigued. The sound sample was very promising.


IMHO, it works very well as a album on it's own terms.

When you listen to you, make up your own mind.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2018 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Having now hear this, it's really a unique and fascinating look into a process that's usually invisible to us. I expected (foolishly) that this would be piano renditions of melodies I already knew, but very little of the melodic content of this album ultimately made it into the final score. This should not have been a surprise to me – creative ideas don't spring into the mind fully formed! And yet, this is a lovely reminder of that.

Really interesting stuff, and a nice listen.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2018 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

If correct wasn't An Unfinished Life piano sketched not fully sure or if there's others. I like what I remembered of AUL piano sketch for me it was quite refreshing the piano is a nice instrument tunefully relaxing. I'm interested in this it looks cool, great release DD got a sale here. Thanks.

Just wondering if anyone how has LISTENED to this release had any comments or feedback?

It's a project that we were very happy to get out into the marketplace.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2018 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Waiting for my copy to ship from Intrada with bunch of other stuff... Still not in stock there for some reason.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   tobid   (Member)

Ford,
is there a reason why this isn't available as download without the disc, like the other three Poledouris Collection titles?
This is one title where I'd be satisfied with music only and with postage and probably custom charges, I might end up paying more than for the Intrada if I ordered the CD...
Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

Ford,
is there a reason why this isn't available as download without the disc, like the other three Poledouris Collection titles?
This is one title where I'd be satisfied with music only and with postage and probably custom charges, I might end up paying more than for the Intrada if I ordered the CD...
Thanks!


I'd be keen on downloads for vol.2 to 4 as well. Only Vol. 1 is available at this stage (I'm referring to iTunes / Google Play Store - not sure if they can be purchased digital without CDs directly from BSX).

Also hope we'll get Hyperspace and some of the Merrill Jensen, Lee Holdridge and Mark Snow releases too as downloads.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   buysoundtrax   (Member)

Ford,
is there a reason why this isn't available as download without the disc, like the other three Poledouris Collection titles?
This is one title where I'd be satisfied with music only and with postage and probably custom charges, I might end up paying more than for the Intrada if I ordered the CD...
Thanks!


I'd be keen on downloads for vol.2 to 4 as well. Only Vol. 1 is available at this stage (I'm referring to iTunes / Google Play Store - not sure if they can be purchased digital without CDs directly from BSX).

Also hope we'll get Hyperspace and some of the Merrill Jensen, Lee Holdridge and Mark Snow releases too as downloads.


We have a digital download section on the website that gives you 24 BIT WAVS, MP3, DIGITAL PDF Booklet

https://tinyurl.com/y535rjsq


Here are the 3 titles. you asked about

Basil Poledouris Vol #2
https://tinyurl.com/y49j98p7

Basil Poledouris Vol #3
https://tinyurl.com/y3subd3p

Hyperspace
https://tinyurl.com/y3azmbhx



Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

To Ford and the rest of his team, thanks for making the Basil Poledouris Collection Vols 2-4 available digitally on iTunes, Google Play and elsewhere recently.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2020 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

To Ford and the rest of his team, thanks for making the Basil Poledouris Collection Vols 2-4 available digitally on iTunes, Google Play and elsewhere recently.

With luck Vol #4 will be up on iTunes within the next week or so.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
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