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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

Link: https://audiophilereview.com/audiophile/yet-another-story-about-why-vinyl-sucks.html

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

LPs are great. As deco. That's about the one edge they have over downloads, streaming, or Compact Discs. :-)

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

I agree with the author. I own a grand total of 6 LPs. They are as follows:

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Robotman and Friends
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Shadowrun: Hong Kong
Earthworm Jim Anthology

I own them for one reason only, the artwork. I'm still missing Last Crusade on LP which I'm in no rush to get, but would like to also frame one day.

For me, CDs are king as physical media. I also love digital. I used to have a number of vinyl that I used to buy at Garage sales for a $1 a piece when I was a teen in the 90s. I had my fun, and gave those away - Empire Strikes Back, Goldfinger, 2001 A Space Odyssey. I prefer to eat my snap, crackles and pops:


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'm glad I threw my LPs away, but I wish I'd kept some of the covers, they look great framed on the wall.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Nightingale   (Member)

The following debate after the article (although too vitriolic in places) is a bit more than an open and shut case and deserves reading.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Thanks for the link, I wasn't even aware of that website!
I didn't read all the comments, as I get weary of the ad hominem attacks - both sides.
It all boils down to the listening experience.
When I was young there was a huge debate over tube vs transistor, with tubephiles proclaiming its warmth and depth, etc., so really not much has changed. I'm sure that somewhere some double-blind testing study has been done re: digital vs analog, and I should find and study it, but no data will change the minds of those true believers on either side, so I don't worry that I'm missing out.
I have no desire to go back to vinyl, but I have no problem with folks whom still love it.
Speakers - I find it fascinating that technology over 100 years old is still pretty much the standard for moving air that our ears translate to our brains as sound.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I've still got a million LPs and I still almost never play them, for the same reason I jumped eagerly onboard the CD train: CD's (and mp3s) never skip when someone walks through the room, and I don't have to get up to flip the record over.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I still have hundreds of vinyl records that I play from time to time. Although CDs have been around for more than 35 years, most of the music on vinyl that I enjoy has never been made available in a digital format and probably never will be.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I bought 7 records on a record fair last Saturday. It's still a highly fun hobby. But yes, I would have been even happier if I had paid the same price for the same titles on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Vinyl is terrible, and I highly encourage all of you to give me your unwanted vinyl.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I still have hundreds of vinyl records that I play from time to time. Although CDs have been around for more than 35 years, most of the music on vinyl that I enjoy has never been made available in a digital format and probably never will be.

I'm genuinely curious about this. While there is plenty of music I had on vinyl that hasn't been made available digitally, most across many different genres has. I'm wondering if you could name a couple of examples of the kinds of things never made available. (For me, Patrick Gowers' score for Stevie and Robert Suderberg's piano concerto come to mind.)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I still have hundreds of vinyl records that I play from time to time. Although CDs have been around for more than 35 years, most of the music on vinyl that I enjoy has never been made available in a digital format and probably never will be.

This describes my situation to a tee.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

The author is a nob-head.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Although CDs have been around for more than 35 years, most of the music on vinyl that I enjoy has never been made available in a digital format and probably never will be.

Do you have highly esoteric tastes? I doubt you are referring to film music, where just about everything of value has been digitized.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

CD's definitely have it over LP's in quality (depending on engineering) and in programming flexibility. But I have quite a number of recordings on 78, 45, EP, 10" and 12" LP that have never been released on CD. So my turntable is still very busy.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As someone who has DJed for decades, both at live gigs and on the radio, I can tell you that CDs in general are a less dependable medium than either vinyl or digital files. Both CDs and CD players have idiosyncrasies that you cannot discern in advance. In various situations, CDs have either not fired, or they skip, or repeat, or stop suddenly. You cannot predict performance based on how clean or scratch-free the CD is. So for me, it is only vinyl and/or digital files for DJing, because both are way more dependable in live situations. I have experienced too many mishaps with CDs.

But I agree with all of you that vinyl sucks, and I suggest that you send me all your unwanted vinyl immediately.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2018 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I agree that CD's can be frustrating - especially CDR's - as far as becoming unreadable/unplayable. I love having USB drives for the car. And yes, even though vinyl can scratch or get other blemishes they will always play. Same with film. DVD's can become corrupt but you can always run film through a projector. Keeping my vinyl and my sprockets!!

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2018 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I till have a couple of hundred LPs, too. I played some of them not too long ago on a high end turntable on my system. I absolutely enjoyed the experience, playing some stuff that I don't have on CD (like SILENT RUNNING, GREYSTOKE, or even the LP edit of THE SWARM). But I like LPs the way I like steam engines... they are fascinating and I like how the mechanics work, and turntables are sure sexier and more beautiful than a CD player, but I would not say they are the most efficient playback medium for music. :-) I enjoy LPs a lot more since there are CDs and digital files. As far as pure audio quality is concerned, CDs are way superior.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2018 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Although CDs have been around for more than 35 years, most of the music on vinyl that I enjoy has never been made available in a digital format and probably never will be.

Do you have highly esoteric tastes? I doubt you are referring to film music, where just about everything of value has been digitized.


Most of my music on vinyl is in the classical realm. Many of the classical pieces are available digitally, but some performances that I prefer were never transferred to CD. And there are film music recordings that haven't yet seen the digital light of day. Particularly notable ones are the three film music discs recorded by Miklos Rozsa for Polydor.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2018 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

CD's definitely have it over LP's in quality (depending on engineering) and in programming flexibility. But I have quite a number of recordings on 78, 45, EP, 10" and 12" LP that have never been released on CD. So my turntable is still very busy.


78 "s?!

Bless you, boy!

 
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