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Nov 14, 2003 - 7:13 PM
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Tall Guy
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At the risk of repeating myself, Patrick O'Brian's awesome series of Aubrey/Maturin novels is character-driven, and I hope the film will be, too. The plots of the books are secondary to the atmosphere of the period (the author goes so far as to "repeat" some years in order to make sense of the events of which he writes when some of the voyages concerned would in themselves take over a year). Although the action described in the books is as good as any that I've read, and probably more accurate - some of the splinter wounds described set your teeth on edge, not to mention the crude surgery necessarily undertaken by Maturin in impossible conditions - a rip-roaring, swash-buckling Errol Flynn-type score would be utterly out of place. I applaud Peter Weir for recognising that, even if it disappoints those who'd like to see Korngold somehow resurrected. If it doesn't work, then at least he's taken the honourable approach. Can't wait to see it myself, but in the meantime I look forward extremely to the comments of those that do so before me. Regards Chris
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Intrada’s description of the music to Master and Commander says that, “The soundtrack probably fits Weir’s concept to a fault but Korngold/Rozsa swash- and-buckle fans be warned. This is not action nor adventure music.” Okay, first I’ll admit my bias. I like those big, sweeping scores that swash our buckles. However, the intellectual side of me now ponders what Weir’s vision for this movie actually is and if and how the music will support his vision. I don’t know if I’ll be able to see this movie on opening weekend, but I look forward to views on the use of music in this movie. (Three composers listed and various classical pieces utilized including Vaughn Williams.) Looking forward to assessments of a seafaring movie that doesn’t employ typical seafaring music. Will atypical music provide us with a different understanding of this movie? Or will we miss the “standard” sounds? I haven't seen MAC, but Weir used Gorecki's Third Symphony in FEARLESS to haunting effect!
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- - - - - - I thought the film was GREAT. The music was appropriate in the film, but doesn't work as well on the album taken out of the context of the film. - - - - - (waste of space, yes. my point is made. )
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The music score to MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD serves the picture well without trying to upstage it. Now would be an opportune time for a CD release of Vaughan Williams' FANTASY ON A THEME BY THOMAS TALLIS as performed by Morton Gould and His Orchestra on the RCA LP LSC-2719. This superb LP also contains GREENSLEEVES, ENGLISH FOLK SONG SUITE, and LONDON SUITE.
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Nov 17, 2003 - 4:55 AM
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joan hue
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I'm pretty much in agreement with Dana. That young boy was just terrific and kept up with the other great actors. I really liked this movie. I certainly understand why Weir wouldn’t want a rousing swashbuckler theme. Some great action, but in the long run, it is a human drama about the hard life on a ship, and about the struggles of leadership and duty. I thought the percussion and underscore for some action places was okay. I really liked Vaughn Williams Tallis theme. It was emotionally effective. When the captain and doctor played their cello and violin, the classical sound was fine, but I could NOT relate to classical pieces in other parts of the movie. There could have been a grand seafaring theme. I was thinking how very different this was from Pirates of the Caribbean and Cutthroat Island, so the music would be different. Because it is about ship life, military, and duty, I thought the human drama was a little like Mutiny on the Bounty, although the stories are totally different. And I thought of Kaper’s wonderful score to Mutiny on the Bounty. I just felt that the music in Master and Commander was too sparse and that “maybe” a seafaring theme like Kaper’s would have fit in places.
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Nov 17, 2003 - 8:41 PM
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Dana Wilcox
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I'm pretty much in agreement with Dana. That young boy was just terrific and kept up with the other great actors... I was thinking how very different this was from Pirates of the Caribbean and Cutthroat Island, so the music would be different. Because it is about ship life, military, and duty, I thought the human drama was a little like Mutiny on the Bounty, although the stories are totally different. And I thought of Kaper’s wonderful score to Mutiny on the Bounty. I just felt that the music in Master and Commander was too sparse and that “maybe” a seafaring theme like Kaper’s would have fit in places. Not realizing that the Galapagos were just a series of uninhabited (by humans, that is) stony projections from the ocean, I was almost expecting boatloads full of beautiful half-naked girls to appear, rowing out toward the ship, accompanied first by Kaper's wonderful Polynesian drums and then "Girls and Sailors", but alas...no such luck!
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Nov 17, 2003 - 9:24 PM
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ANZALDIMAN
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Not realizing that the Galapagos were just a series of uninhabited (by humans, that is) stony projections from the ocean, I was almost expecting boatloads full of beautiful half-naked girls to appear, rowing out toward the ship, accompanied first by Kaper's wonderful Polynesian drums and then "Girls and Sailors", but alas...no such luck! Yes, I "prefer" bared "girls" boobs as well Dana.. Interesting and insightful comment there..And, by the way, "rousing" score, ehh?? Really got me "up" and outta' my seat..By golly Jeez.."Stony projection (s) " indeed!
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Often this movie was fascinating, but I was never invited into it. It will play there whether you enjoy it or not, which is a way of saying it hit all the expected things a high-end awards magnet film product must hit, sort of impersonally. I miss the idiosyncratic touch that always set Weir films apart. Good that he can still get a job though. I didn't really notice the music for some reason.
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HERR DOKTOR WARE-BEAR SAID: "it hit all the expected things a high-end awards magnet film product must hit" Product indeed! That reminds me of what Gregory Weinkauf said about SYLVIA: "Then we cut to Sylvia cycling adorably through Cambridge to what can only be described as 'Oscar music'. Yes, even though SYLVIA is a rather amazing movie on its own terms, as a marketable commodity it's also this year's gender-swapped replay of the fiercely overrated A BEAUTIFUL MIND, with all that implies. Bear with me, and try to forget I said that."
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