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 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   BillH   (Member)

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I'm going to see it---the buzz is fantastic---this afternoon.

Use this thread to post your comments on the score. Judging by the clips I've heard (puke), they better be REALLY REALLY appropriate in the film.

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 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Intrada’s description of the music to Master and Commander says that, “The
soundtrack probably fits Weir’s concept to a fault but Korngold/Rozsa swash-
and-buckle fans be warned. This is not action nor adventure music.”

Okay, first I’ll admit my bias. I like those big, sweeping scores that swash our
buckles. However, the intellectual side of me now ponders what Weir’s vision
for this movie actually is and if and how the music will support his vision. I don’t
know if I’ll be able to see this movie on opening weekend, but I look forward to
views on the use of music in this movie. (Three composers listed and various
classical pieces utilized including Vaughn Williams.)

Looking forward to assessments of a seafaring movie that doesn’t employ
typical seafaring music. Will atypical music provide us with a different
understanding of this movie? Or will we miss the “standard” sounds?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

At the risk of repeating myself, Patrick O'Brian's awesome series of Aubrey/Maturin novels is character-driven, and I hope the film will be, too. The plots of the books are secondary to the atmosphere of the period (the author goes so far as to "repeat" some years in order to make sense of the events of which he writes when some of the voyages concerned would in themselves take over a year).

Although the action described in the books is as good as any that I've read, and probably more accurate - some of the splinter wounds described set your teeth on edge, not to mention the crude surgery necessarily undertaken by Maturin in impossible conditions - a rip-roaring, swash-buckling Errol Flynn-type score would be utterly out of place. I applaud Peter Weir for recognising that, even if it disappoints those who'd like to see Korngold somehow resurrected. If it doesn't work, then at least he's taken the honourable approach.

Can't wait to see it myself, but in the meantime I look forward extremely to the comments of those that do so before me.

Regards
Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Luscious Lazlo   (Member)

http://www.pitch.com/issues/2003-11-13/review.html/1/index.html

Attention Timmer:

"No motion picture could do justice to Vaughn Williams' FANTASIA ON A THEME BY THOMAS TALLIS, but Weir does his darndest." [Gregory Weinkauf]

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Intrada’s description of the music to Master and Commander says that, “The
soundtrack probably fits Weir’s concept to a fault but Korngold/Rozsa swash-
and-buckle fans be warned. This is not action nor adventure music.”

Okay, first I’ll admit my bias. I like those big, sweeping scores that swash our
buckles. However, the intellectual side of me now ponders what Weir’s vision
for this movie actually is and if and how the music will support his vision. I don’t
know if I’ll be able to see this movie on opening weekend, but I look forward to
views on the use of music in this movie. (Three composers listed and various
classical pieces utilized including Vaughn Williams.)

Looking forward to assessments of a seafaring movie that doesn’t employ
typical seafaring music. Will atypical music provide us with a different
understanding of this movie? Or will we miss the “standard” sounds?


I haven't seen MAC, but Weir used Gorecki's Third Symphony in FEARLESS to haunting effect!

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2003 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   scoringsessions   (Member)

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I thought the film was GREAT. The music was appropriate in the film, but doesn't work as well on the album taken out of the context of the film.

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(waste of space, yes. my point is made. wink)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2003 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

http://www.pitch.com/issues/2003-11-13/review.html/1/index.html

Attention Timmer:

"No motion picture could do justice to Vaughn Williams' FANTASIA ON A THEME BY THOMAS TALLIS, but Weir does his darndest." [Gregory Weinkauf]


Intriguing lush, but I'd hate to see this Vaughan Williams masterwork become as overused as Barber's Adagio For Strings. (due to it's approx 15 min length hopefully it's unlikely to happen)

I'd rather the 'Tallis' was NEVER used in a film but that's just me personally and being selfish!

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2003 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

I'd rather the 'Tallis' was NEVER used in a film but that's just me personally and being selfish!


You're not alone in that sentiment, Timmer. It's one of my very favorite pieces of music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2003 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   scottsimms   (Member)

It's a wonderful movie that does what Commander Aubrey states Admiral Nelson did: it gives your heart a glow.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2003 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   soundtrakker   (Member)

The music score to MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD serves the picture well without trying to upstage it.

Now would be an opportune time for a CD release of Vaughan Williams' FANTASY ON A THEME BY THOMAS TALLIS as performed by Morton Gould and His Orchestra on the RCA LP LSC-2719. This superb LP also contains GREENSLEEVES, ENGLISH FOLK SONG SUITE, and LONDON SUITE.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2003 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   musiconfilm   (Member)

A review is up at Music On Film at:

http://www.musiconfilm.net/reviews/mastercommander.php

Be warned however, that it's not completely positive. I gave it only 2 stars.

Jonathan

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Having seen the film this afternoon, I am not planning to buy the soundtrack. Most of the music consists of (1) chamber music as Crowe and his ship's doctor practice their violin and cello (respectively) together, and (2) a drum-based motif that appears when Crowe's ship is moving out in pursuit of the French frigate. There is also some suitably solemn music that is heard at the end to accompany a solemn moment (no spoilers here!). There was some other music, but it was hard to hear it behind the often-loud sound effects. All in all, reasonably OK for the film, but not likely to be much of a listen otherwise.

Crowe was quite good, and there were some fine supporting performances including a talented young English boy. My wife and I both enjoyed the film. Nicely directed, with enough subplots to make it interesting beyond the obvious swashbuckling main plot.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I'm pretty much in agreement with Dana. That young boy was just terrific and kept up with the other great actors.

I really liked this movie. I certainly understand why Weir wouldn’t want a rousing
swashbuckler theme. Some great action, but in the long run, it is a human drama
about the hard life on a ship, and about the struggles of leadership and duty.
I thought the percussion and underscore for some action places was okay. I really
liked Vaughn Williams Tallis theme. It was emotionally effective. When the captain
and doctor played their cello and violin, the classical sound was fine, but I could
NOT relate to classical pieces in other parts of the movie. There could have
been a grand seafaring theme.

I was thinking how very different this was from Pirates of the Caribbean and
Cutthroat Island, so the music would be different. Because it is about ship life,
military, and duty, I thought the human drama was a little like Mutiny on the
Bounty, although the stories are totally different. And I thought of Kaper’s
wonderful score to Mutiny on the Bounty. I just felt that the music
in Master and Commander was too sparse and that “maybe” a seafaring theme
like Kaper’s would have fit in places.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   BillH   (Member)

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I finally saw it yesterday. Very good movie. Bring on the Oscar™ nods.

In more ways than one, "Master and Commander" is similar in construction to "Saving Private Ryan." Large-scale battles at the front and back, followed by a more introspective, "warfare as it really is" middle. This is NOT Errol Flynn jumping around shouting "Ahoy, Matey!" It's gritty and historically accurate. Subdued...but never dull.

The music does work well in the movie, but it's there simply as wallpaper. It does not function, as music often does, as a character in the film. You'll have to get your musical swash buckled by a different movie.

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 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 8:41 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I'm pretty much in agreement with Dana. That young boy was just terrific and kept up with the other great actors...

I was thinking how very different this was from Pirates of the Caribbean and
Cutthroat Island, so the music would be different. Because it is about ship life,
military, and duty, I thought the human drama was a little like Mutiny on the
Bounty, although the stories are totally different. And I thought of Kaper’s
wonderful score to Mutiny on the Bounty. I just felt that the music
in Master and Commander was too sparse and that “maybe” a seafaring theme
like Kaper’s would have fit in places.


Not realizing that the Galapagos were just a series of uninhabited (by humans, that is) stony projections from the ocean, I was almost expecting boatloads full of beautiful half-naked girls to appear, rowing out toward the ship, accompanied first by Kaper's wonderful Polynesian drums and then "Girls and Sailors", but alas...no such luck!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)



Not realizing that the Galapagos were just a series of uninhabited (by humans, that is) stony projections from the ocean, I was almost expecting boatloads full of beautiful half-naked girls to appear, rowing out toward the ship, accompanied first by Kaper's wonderful Polynesian drums and then "Girls and Sailors", but alas...no such luck!


Yes, I "prefer" bared "girls" boobs as well Dana.. Interesting and insightful comment there..And, by the way, "rousing" score, ehh?? Really got me "up" and outta' my seat..By golly Jeez.."Stony projection (s) " indeed!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2003 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   Michael Ware   (Member)

Often this movie was fascinating, but I was never invited into it. It will play there whether you enjoy it or not, which is a way of saying it hit all the expected things a high-end awards magnet film product must hit, sort of impersonally. I miss the idiosyncratic touch that always set Weir films apart. Good that he can still get a job though. I didn't really notice the music for some reason.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2003 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   Luscious Lazlo   (Member)

HERR DOKTOR WARE-BEAR SAID: "it hit all the expected things a high-end awards magnet film product must hit"

Product indeed! That reminds me of what Gregory Weinkauf said about SYLVIA: "Then we cut to Sylvia cycling adorably through Cambridge to what can only be described as 'Oscar music'. Yes, even though SYLVIA is a rather amazing movie on its own terms, as a marketable commodity it's also this year's gender-swapped replay of the fiercely overrated A BEAUTIFUL MIND, with all that implies. Bear with me, and try to forget I said that."

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2003 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Logied   (Member)

This outstanding movie could have used an outstanding score. Except for a few emotional talky scenes that had some annoying underscore the music was not in the way of the characters or the action but I feel the right composer could have ,as the saying goes, kicked it up a notch on all levels without loss of the main intent. This movie had John Williams written all over it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2003 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Best pastiche of classical music stitched to
a film since 'Barry Lyndon'. The film's
absolutely great, too. (Has a bit more on
'Barry' because some of the music's original,
too.)

 
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