Actually Ryan, last Thursday I got word that Shaiman was no longer on the project. (Who is stupid? )
But it wasn't Silvestri who was supposedly picking up the pieces.
At this point, with 2 weeks left until the film opens, I'm guessing a majority of Shaiman's score - and undoubtedly most of the songs - will still be in the film, with "additional music" fleshing out the problem areas.
Since Mac and Me (cough, spit), FernGully: The Last Rainforest and more encouragingly, The Polar Express.
Also, the main theme from ROMANCING THE STONE is the best song NOT to have lyrics. You expect a gospel voice to chime in any second (after the bluesy staccato riffs).
Since Mac and Me (cough, spit), FernGully: The Last Rainforest and more encouragingly, The Polar Express.
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Wait a second- Most of the songs on Fern Gully weren't written by Silvestri from what I remember, but by multiple producers and artists with Thomas Dolby doing 2 songs and Jimmy Webb orchestrating and co-writing the Sheena Easton ballad with Silvestri- hardly anything done on the Shaiman level-
and wasn't that Mac and Me song produced by I'VE HAD THE TIME OF MY LIFE's Michael Lloyd? This isn't the McDonald's song btw is it???!!! THE HORROR!!!!
I still don't think that makes Silvestri qualified for a musical job like Team America.
So just because the film is a satirical parody full of risque student humour that means that any old joe off the street could make it? Comedy is HARD to do, and comedy musical songs, such as those Shaiman churned out for South Park the movie take an IMMENSE amount of lyrical and musical skill. Shaiman has more to his name to match the likes of Alan Menken and Howard Ashman than Silvestri does.
Lighten up. I'm looking forward to seeing it, I'm sure it'll be funny, and I'm still a fan of South Park. Silvestri has done his fair share of comedies and 'big' movies. He's more than up to it.
I'm sorry, I just find that extremely funny that one would have to be very qualified to work on... Team American
Silvestri is a great composer and I agree with you here Bondo Team America is hardly a epic motion picture. I may actually get this depending on how many songs vs scored music there is. sd
I LOVE Silvestri, but he doesn't have a musical to his name other than the already mentioned Fern Gully for which 95% of the songs were written and produced by other artists. It's not something you can just lightly bang out like an instrumental score, it's a whole DIFFERENT medium that is more direct in influencing tone and story because it it's overtly using the music and lyrics as backbone script to carry the story. It's like shifting script at the eleventh hour!
If this had been planned from the beginning with Silvestri set up during prep with the writers and a lyricist, fine- no doubt he could reach the movies muscial full potential, but bringing someone late on to redo score and songs that are so directly related to the script, espcially someone like Silvestri who hasn't got the experience or resources needed for musicals- that's suicide!
Ousting Shaiman so late into post may cost the filmmakers, unless they retain most of his already completed song and score work. "Additional music by" won't hurt anyone, but anything more could throw off the tone and consistency of the film.
Look, you're just talking yourself into a negative bias. I'm sure we were all looking forward to Shaiman's presumably huge score, but since there's little we can do about it, we might as well take the good with the bad. As with many rejected scores, I'm sure we'll hear it sometime in the future. (And has it actually been officially confirmed?)
It's not about "Shaiman Vs. Silvestri", they are BOTH great- it's about the bizarre choice of Silvestri if this does happen. It all makes little sense other than the fact Silvestri publically expressed interest in working with Parker and Stone. This reminds me of Richard Pryor being thrown onto Superman III or Samuel L Jackson badly misplaced in a Star Wars movie because of their publically expressed interest. If Silvestri is just handling additional score, fairdos- if it's rewriting or rescoring, I continue to scratch my head...
It's like there's a car stunt involving driving a Ferrari off the grand canyon, the original driver gets ill, so the producer phones up a taxi driver who once 15 years ago sat in the passenger seat of a stunt drivers car. Makes little sense, no?
And to repeat myself for the visually deficient, if given future oppurtunity to do a muscial FROM SCRATCH alongside the script, I've no doubt Silvestri will blow us all away (unless someone invites Don Black along ).
I like Alan Silvestri's scores very much and i don't understand the rant. Scoring a musical movie like Team America would be a great new opportunity for him to show his versatility one more time. Writting songs is actually not THAT complicated, even James Horner managed to write a lengthy score and a song for Troy within a few weeks and i am sure Silvestri can do that in the same time but much better! Don't forget his background, he was a former band player and arranged some songs for other artists. Beside that, there is still the Polar Express, which contains a lot of songs written by silvestri and it's said that these songs are very good!
In my opinion, there is no better replacement-composer than Alan Silvestri!
You can't even compare Troy to Team America- Horners song there was nothing more than ONE tacked on end credits/OST ballad, not MANY satirical parody story driving songs lyrically integral to the script, visuals and being substitute for dialogue! David Foster and Cynthia Weil handled most of the Troy song anyhoo, same as Wally Afanasieff on Titanic. That's like comparing Take My Breath Away to the Menken/Ashman songs of Little Shop of Horrors.
The tone of Polar express is also a polar opposite to the scathing lyrical parody Stone and Parker love and standby- infact it's everything they stand against!! I don't see that as a factor.
Ok, my troy-comparison is weak ;-), but there is still the polar express which will show his ability to write songs. Wether these songs are emotional or just crazy is a different category. My statement was that he is able to compose great songs, no matter the mood! He worked on mouse hunt and who framed roger rabitt, so i guess it is not hard for him to take his crazy (looney) orchestral sounds and turn it into several songs which will fit the movie.
Anyways, we should thank god that the replacement composer is not Zimmer/Badelt/Media Ventures again!!
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