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 Posted:   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

A new CD with rerecorded music from the 60s animated series comes from the label Vulture.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2004 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   Electro   (Member)

I read with much interest a few issues ago, the interview with Ray Ellis. I was especially interested to see if there was ever a release of the 1967 Spider-Man music. In THAT article, no mention was made and I went away feeling dashed against the rocks. After all, who would interview Ray Ellis and NOT ask him if there was a Spider-Man OST planned--Especially since the complete collection was [at that time] coming out shortly.

Now, lets jump ahead to our most recent issue of FSM. Well, what do I find? I find a review of a CD made by a pop group that calls themselves, "Volume." The CD entitled "The Amazing Spider-Band" has been made in 2002 and WITH Ray Ellis' help and permission. How can this be? Why were we not told about this in the Ray Ellis interview several issues ago? Not even a side bar mention.

I subscribe to FSM to stay on top of the music-world's most hidden treasures--Soundtrack recordings. The magazine usually alerts me long before something that interests me is released. But I'm afraid the ball was dropped this time. Sad indeed. Something that I know Mr. Kendall has been "bugged" to release, I'm sure, and now we find out about it too late.

Oh, late? What do I mean? The article credits a web site called CDbaby.com as the place to buy the CD. That site should have been checked before the URL was listed because they have been sold out of "Spider-Band" for months.

Maybe had we been tipped to the fact that this CD existed way back when Ray Ellis was interviewed, the people that REALLY wanted the CD to LISTEN to might have gotten a chance to buy it. Now, I'm afraid it has fallen into the hands of the rogues at eBay and is selling for much more than $9.99.

To fix this grievious error, I suggest this to Mr. Kendall: Add another FSM Silver Age classic to the list and see if you can record the 1967 Spider-Man music.

BTW CAT, you know me. Email me.

Thank you

Electro

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Fernando Gimenez   (Member)

A new CD with rerecorded music from the 60s animated series comes from the label Vulture.

Could you be a little more specific. What's the name of the album, where do they sell it? Are you sure is not Volume's?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Fernando Gimenez   (Member)

I read with much interest a few issues ago, the interview with Ray Ellis. I was especially interested to see if there was ever a release of the 1967 Spider-Man music. In THAT article, no mention was made and I went away feeling dashed against the rocks. After all, who would interview Ray Ellis and NOT ask him if there was a Spider-Man OST planned--Especially since the complete collection was [at that time] coming out shortly.

Now, lets jump ahead to our most recent issue of FSM. Well, what do I find? I find a review of a CD made by a pop group that calls themselves, "Volume." The CD entitled "The Amazing Spider-Band" has been made in 2002 and WITH Ray Ellis' help and permission. How can this be? Why were we not told about this in the Ray Ellis interview several issues ago? Not even a side bar mention.

I subscribe to FSM to stay on top of the music-world's most hidden treasures--Soundtrack recordings. The magazine usually alerts me long before something that interests me is released. But I'm afraid the ball was dropped this time. Sad indeed. Something that I know Mr. Kendall has been "bugged" to release, I'm sure, and now we find out about it too late.

Oh, late? What do I mean? The article credits a web site called CDbaby.com as the place to buy the CD. That site should have been checked before the URL was listed because they have been sold out of "Spider-Band" for months.

Maybe had we been tipped to the fact that this CD existed way back when Ray Ellis was interviewed, the people that REALLY wanted the CD to LISTEN to might have gotten a chance to buy it. Now, I'm afraid it has fallen into the hands of the rogues at eBay and is selling for much more than $9.99.

To fix this grievious error, I suggest this to Mr. Kendall: Add another FSM Silver Age classic to the list and see if you can record the 1967 Spider-Man music.

BTW CAT, you know me. Email me.

Thank you

Electro


I feel as frustrated as you do. I also learned just too late that this Cd was not available, and now it remains uncertain as to when or if it will be in the near future.
It's really a shame that this wonderful music has never been released in any form. And now we can't even buy this little 25 minutes re recording. frown

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2004 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

Melchior - what´s the URL to this ????

Mika

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2004 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   TheSaint   (Member)

A new CD with rerecorded music from the 60s animated series comes from the label Vulture.

Why re-recorded? Why can't we have the original if Ray Ellis is involved?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2004 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   JeffBond   (Member)

When I interviewed Ray I of course asked him if he had kept any of his materials from Spider-Man or the Star Trek animated series (I was far more amazed to discover he had done that as that show never ran any comprehensive music credits). He told me he hadn't kept anything and had no idea where any of the music would be found. The Amazing Spider-Band album is indeed a rerecording and it's basically done by a rock group, although you can sort of hear Ray's brass lines in the background--it's possible these were picked up right off the TV soundtracks since there were lengthy sequences that just played music. I even asked Ralph Bakshi if he had kept any of the music when I interviewed him recently for CFQ. I would call the Spider-Band album more of a curiousity than a "rerecording" although it is interesting. There was practically nothing in the way of packaging or notes on this release so you're not missing out on anything much in that area by not having access to the original CD, but for all of you who are traumatized by this oversight, please accept our apologies.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2004 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

Yes, I knew the URL listed the cd as out-of-stock, but one of the band members informed me via email that the cd was being re-pressed and would be available in about 4 weeks. That was Sept. 24 so I had hoped it would be available again before the FSM issue went to print.
The original tracks are lost, but you can hear SPIDER-MAN music in shows that utilise library music. If I was looking for this, I might start with Igo Kantor, producer AND music supervisor for KINGDOM OF THE SPIDERS (the IMDB indicates that he is still active in the biz), and see what music library he uses, and then search that. The compositions may not even be in Ellis' name anymore.
None of the tracks were recorded from the tv. Those were the tracks I described as being the dead-on reconstructions. Unfortunately, those are not the downloadable tracks for some reason. It was a nice compliment though, albeit a back-handed one. There is a group called Mole City that also does this sort of thing. And it is a curiosity, not a reconstruction. And you can sort of hear Ellis' bass line, but that's all. I can't really recommend their work, but this I can.
Jeff is correct about the packaging. It's very Varese. But we are talking about a small band's self-produced cd. Don’t expect anything as oppulent as DEMOLITION MAN or CARLITO'S WAY.
I do agree with Electro, this should have been mentioned in the magazine in a more timely fashion. I was the one who brought it to FSMs attention in 2002 and just assumed that no one was interested when there was no response. This is certainly a more faithful rendition of the original material than Hammer Horror Warfare or anything by the Trotter Trio. Not to belittle those efforts by those groups. Re-recordings and adaptions are what they are, but by editor-at-large Jeff Bond's own admission, some of this is so good you'd think it was the original off the tv. And until better material is found…this is it. This is all we have.
Fernando, I know you've been looking for this. If it's not available by Christmas, drop me a line and I'll see what I can do for you. I did buy a couple of these for gifts.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2004 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   Fernando Gimenez   (Member)

Double post

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2004 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Fernando Gimenez   (Member)


Fernando, I know you've been looking for this. If it's not available by Christmas, drop me a line and I'll see what I can do for you. I did buy a couple of these for gifts.


So, it's Xmas time and no sign of this Cd. What's your e-mail Paul? Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2005 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

Hi Fernando,

Sorry for the delay. I spend Christmas and New Year's with my in-laws in Ottawa. That's about 15 hours from where I live. Or 19 hours in a snowstorm.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2008 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

Hello people,

I happened across this youtube featuring some of the incidental music from the original series. It seems to emphasize more of seasons 2 & 3. While I do like some of the music from these later seasons, my preference is the first season music. I prefer the upbeat swing-jazz-rock, to the (more often) downbeat "psychedelic" music. However, this clip appears to include the not-so dystopian portions of the later seasons. Either way, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALo5g9ISjw

Richard G.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Hello people,

I happened across this youtube featuring some of the incidental music from the original series. It seems to emphasize more of seasons 2 & 3. While I do like some of the music from these later seasons, my preference is the first season music. I prefer the upbeat swing-jazz-rock, to the (more often) downbeat "psychedelic" music. However, this clip appears to include the not-so dystopian portions of the later seasons. Either way, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALo5g9ISjw

Richard G.


Mmmmm.....If I'm not mistaken that theme that begins at 00.41 into the clip was used as the title theme to a late 60's Aussie cop drama "Division 4".

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

The CD was recently re-released:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/volume

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

[startquote
Mmmmm.....If I'm not mistaken that theme that begins at 00.41 into the clip was used as the title theme to a late 60's Aussie cop drama "Division 4".

You are not mistaken.

I remember that theme popping up in the Spider-Man TV series in a few episodes.

This is one Tv Score I would LOVE to see released.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

[startquote


You are not mistaken.

I remember that theme popping up in the Spider-Man TV series in a few episodes.

This is one Tv Score I would LOVE to see released.


Found this on youtube
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3LQQsjW7VYY

So who actually composed this piece?
I beleive it was called "Powerdrive" on
Division 4.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2008 - 9:56 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

Well here's a webpage with some interesting information. Apologies if this has been mentioned before.
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/01/the_music_every.html

Also, I see that there is a group on yahoo dedicated to the music.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spidey-jazz/

Hopefully one day we'll get all of the music. Heck, I wouldn't mind faithful re-recordings! Anyone listening? :-)

Richard G.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2008 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   Ichabod Slipp   (Member)

I was really shocked to discover that the subject of this thread : the 1967 animated Spiderman series that was recently released on dvd...you can only get it now if you want to pay 80 bucks or more for it on Amazon. It's no longer available to the general public.

Had I known that the license was going to run out on the release of this little gem of a series I would've purchased it as soon as it came out.
It was the only time that they ever got Spiderman right.Those recent live action blockbusters are all well and good yet somehow they fall short compared to the charm of the 1967 series.
Even with all the sloppy mistakes that Ralph Bakshi left in that he should've edited out or corrected, it was still a fun,fun, show.

Love that one episode BLOTTO.And the other one with the Master Technician.And DIET OF DESTRUCTION the metal eating monster... [who created that thing? The Leader...??]

The music by Ray Ellis and co is great too. Facinating reading about it on this thread.

The unsung NON celebrity voice actors from Canada who worked on the show were brilliant as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2008 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)



You are not mistaken.

I remember that theme popping up in the Spider-Man TV series in a few episodes.

This is one Tv Score I would LOVE to see released.


Found this on youtube
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3LQQsjW7VYY

So who actually composed this piece?
I beleive it was called "Powerdrive" on
Division 4.

I've got the Division 4 theme on a CD of "Australian TV's greatest hits" which lists it as "Stock Music".

I also have it on a tape version of TVT's "TV's greatest hits Vol.II", which must be an Australian release because it does not feature on the CD release. (There are a couple of other Australian TV themes on this tape set which do not appear on the corresponding CD)

I can't check the source on the tape version though because it is buried in a chest in the bedroom and my wife is fast asleep right now. If I wake her up rummaging through that chest looking for that tape, I'll pay for that for a week. I'll try and look for it tomorrow (if I remember.....) wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 9, 2008 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

The music from this series and the original Kung Fu (1970) are two Holy Grails of television music I am dying to find on CD. I know an album exists of Kung Fu but I don't think there's ever been a release of Ellis' music from Spiderman.

It would be wicked cool for FSM to do a compilation of all Spiderman related music from the Ellis stuff to the Stu Phillips music from the live-action show which also had awesome music.

 
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