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 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The film bombed miserably (deservedly so...I only have it on DVD because I'm a Spielberg nut), and the music by Williams ain't all that great either.

Sure, the march is catchy, but it is repeated all too many times, and the soundscape is too dense and bombastic (enough with the canons already!). There's a bigband swing tune midway to leviate some of the pressure, but the album could not have been one minute longer than the 30-something minutes it is, IMO.

If I REALLY want to hear more of the score, I'll switch on the isolated score track on the DVD, but I really won't.

Decent, but not more.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   ian642002   (Member)

(enough with the canons already!)

Yep, those ecclesiastical regulations tend to deafen at high volume.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I think it's a terrific score, one of my favorites. And a terrible movie. And I love the cannons!

And there you have it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

(enough with the canons already!)

Yep, those ecclesiastical regulations tend to deafen at high volume.


LOL! big grin So much fun with a typo.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   George A Flaxman   (Member)

Thor, buddy.

When did you last update you Celuloid Tunes website Composer links page ?.

I know its not subject related, but what the hell.

There doesn't seem to be any "comprehensive" page of such links anywhere else. Or is this another case of less is more ?.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   bedhead   (Member)

While it isn't one of my favorite comedies, I do think it has it's moments. The music is right in sync with the flick and the cannons are wonderful puntuation marks. I usually disdain sound effects and dialogue in a filmscore. This disc gets lots of play on my mp3.
I kinda wish they would have included the explosion of the Death Star on the two disc SW:A NEW HOPE just for closure. The effect on film makes me want to reach for a cigarette afterwards, and I don't even smoke.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Terrific score, and a gem of a film concerning cinematography, designs, miniatures, FX, locations... Really impressive, even more in today CGI-days.

I also have the isolated boot and it's fun... but yes, maybe too long.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Jim Barg   (Member)

It's the only reason I spent $6 on a used DVD copy. (That, and the documentary.)

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I love the score and that march is one of Williams best, IMHO of course.
sd

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

What I love about this particular score is that Williams uses a military march, which are by nature very precise, and then goes a bit loopy with it. It's precise and militaristic one moment, but then breaks free, only to barely contain itself again with the very rhythmic drum corps stuff. The cannons, an obvious reference to the 1812 Overture, just add to the fun.

And the score is teeming with rowdy and mock-romantic themes. The big band number is clearly a riff on "Sing Sing Sing" (though Williams isn't trying to hide that influence, as he calls his "Swing Swing Swing"), and it's fun, too.

This is one of the rare comedy scores that works by tipping its hand and freely going for comedy. I just wish I found the film amusing.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

The album/cd representation of the score is a far cry from what you'll hear on the score track on the DVD. Not the best album/cd...but the score in the film foreshadows William's work in the late 80's/early 90's.

Thor, I suggest you give the isolated score a listen -- it won't put this one on any top list, but it sure is a different experience.

 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

it won't put this one on any top list

Does that mean I have to take it off my top list?

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)

The film bombed miserably (deservedly so...I only have it on DVD because I'm a Spielberg nut), and the music by Williams ain't all that great either.

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I found it a great surprise... a VERY funny movie (in its original non-extended version) and the music was just GREAT. Williams' capturing of the 40s style was on the money!

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)

I love the score and that march is one of Williams best, IMHO of course.
sd


Agreed.

Now take your wife out to see Clark's BLACK CHRISTMAS.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)



Does that mean I have to take it off my top list?


Porn stars will weep.....



 
 Posted:   May 13, 2005 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Porn stars will weep.....

I'm sure I'm going to come off as incredibly naive here but... what?!

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2005 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)



I'm sure I'm going to come off as incredibly naive here but... what?!


I would blush if I had to explain it to you. Just figure you are too young to know...



 
 Posted:   May 14, 2005 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Just figure you are too young to know...

Wow! It's been some time since I've heard that! I'm flattered!

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2005 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   JimWare   (Member)


If I REALLY want to hear more of the score, I'll switch on the isolated score track on the DVD, but I really won't.


I don't think the album assembly does the score justice. There are some substantial cues missing from the album that don't rely on the march. The score would probably benefit from a slight expansion (or restructuring, perhaps) to add a bit of variety.

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2005 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Anonie_Mouse   (Member)



I don't think the album assembly does the score justice. There are some substantial cues missing from the album that don't rely on the march. The score would probably benefit from a slight expansion (or restructuring, perhaps) to add a bit of variety.


The score, and film in its original version, are fine as they stand. A greatly fun film.

 
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