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 Posted:   Sep 9, 2008 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

It is going over you heads... the response I gave over at the other thread. roll eyes

Who composed the theme song from BOY ON A DOLPHIN that perhaps inspired a whole film score???

Just enquiring...

Music and English (non-original) lyrics.

Once I have the cd on my hands, it would be very interesting to see who is credited for this one.

PS

Nice responses from the 'experts'.

No... it is NOT Elton John. (sigh!)

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2008 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

It is going over you heads... the response I gave over at the other thread. roll eyes

Who composed the theme song from BOY ON A DOLPHIN that perhaps inspired a whole film score???

Just enquiring...

Music and English (non-original) lyrics.

Once I have the cd on my hands, it would be very interesting to see who is credited for this one.





Is this what you wanted to know Captain ?????

"Boy on a Dolphin"
Based on Tirafio music by Takis Morakis
Greek text by J. Fermanglou
American lyric by Paul Francis Webster
Sung by Julie London (as Miss Julie London) (uncredited)
Music adapted by Hugo Friedhofer
Orchestra under the direction of Howard Roberts (uncredited)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2008 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

It is going over you heads... the response I gave over at the other thread. roll eyes

Who composed the theme song from BOY ON A DOLPHIN that perhaps inspired a whole film score???

Just enquiring...

Music and English (non-original) lyrics.

Once I have the cd on my hands, it would be very interesting to see who is credited for this one.





Is this what you wanted to know Captain ?????

"Boy on a Dolphin"
Based on Tirafio music by Takis Morakis
Greek text by J. Fermanglou
American lyric by Paul Francis Webster
Sung by Julie London (as Miss Julie London) (uncredited)
Music adapted by Hugo Friedhofer
Orchestra under the direction of Howard Roberts (uncredited)


Thank you, thank you, thank you CH-CD... you're a gem!

Tirafio?! What's tirafio?

Anyway, the man sold his composition for nothing but at least he is credited... somewhere.

That's what I wanted to see.

Perhaps track #19, the last track, is Sophia Loren singing the original song in Greek.

It's beautifully sung too!

http://tinyurl.com/6zpykr

smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2008 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   KOP   (Member)

The title of the Morakis-Fermanoglou song is "Ti 'ne afto pou to lene agapi" or "Ti ine avto..." depending on who transcribes it ("What is this thing called love?"), apparently a.k.a. "S'agapo" ("I love you").

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2008 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

The title of the Morakis-Fermanoglou song is "Ti 'ne afto pou to lene agapi" or "Ti ine avto..." depending on who transcribes it ("What is this thing called love?") . . .




"Hmmm. You don't say."

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2008 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   KOP   (Member)

"Hmmm. You don't say."

I suppose Porter's song would be "Ti 'ne afto pou to lene agapi" in Greek.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2008 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

Is that Cole Porter? I cannot make out the headline on the music sheet.

BTW, J. Fermanglou (most likely Fermanoglou) has nothing to do with this song.

Anyway, as stated by fellow forum members, the song in the film BOY ON A DOLPHIN is actually the Greek song "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" or translated in English as "What Is This Called Love" whose music was composed by Takis Morakis.

A little known fact is that the original lyrics which were in Greek and not English were actually written by a famous Greek singer named Danai Stratigopoulou or simply known as 'Danai' who is somewhere in her 90's today... God bless her!

The beautiful and 'poetic' Greek lyrics have absolutely no relevance to the English lyrics.

Danai gave the lyrics to her good friend Takis Morakis back then as a gesture of their friendship.
The simple giving of so called 'intellectual property' among artists was done a lot in those days and nothing was considered of it. Morakis then sold the rights to his composition basically for egg shells to some foreign entity who must have foreseen something in his melody.

The 'selling off' was not a wise move by Takis Morakis since his composition became known the world over through the song in the film BOY ON A DOLPHIN sung by Sophia Loren (gorgeous!) both in English and if I'm not mistaken in Greek somewhere in the film.

Danai unfortunately has never been compensated for her contribution.

Takis Morakis' composition was adapted by Hugo Friedhofer who in turn used the melody quite extensively throughout his beautiful and ethereal classic film score BOY ON A DOLPHIN.

Today the song "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" is considered a classic of contemporary Greek music and of course all over the world over as BOY ON A DOLPHIN.

Very briefly in the beginning of the following You Tube link one can view an interview segment showing an aged yet vibrant Danai. She refers to the BOY ON A DOLPHIN song, "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" as painful and a wound. Following, one can hear one of the countless Greek vocal interpetations of "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" sung beautifully by acclaimed Greek singer Nena Venetsanou.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRvbJO9930

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2008 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   MICHAEL HOMA   (Member)

Is that Cole Porter? I cannot make out the headline on the music sheet.

BTW, J. Fermanglou has nothing to do with this song.

Anyway, as stated by fellow forum members, the song in the film BOY ON A DOLPHIN is actually the Greek song "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" or translated in English as "What Is This Called Love" whose music was composed by Takis Morakis.

A little known fact is that the original lyrics which were in Greek and not English were actually written by a famous Greek singer named Danai Stratigopoulou or simply known as 'Danai' who is somewhere in her 90's today... God bless her!

The beautiful and 'poetic' Greek lyrics have absolutely no relevance to the English lyrics.

Danai gave the lyrics to her good friend Takis Morakis back then as a gesture of their friendship.
The simple giving of so called 'intellectual property' among artists was done a lot in those days and nothing was considered of it. Morakis then sold the rights to his composition basically for egg shells to some foreign entity who must have foreseen something in his melody.

The 'selling off' was not a wise move by Takis Morakis since his composition became known the world over through the song in the film BOY ON A DOLPHIN sung by Sophia Loren (gorgeous!) both in English and if I'm not mistaken in Greek somewhere in the film.

Danai unfortunately has never been compensated for her contribution.

Takis Morakis' composition was adapted by Hugo Friedhofer who in turn used the melody quite extensively throughout his beautiful and ethereal classic film score BOY ON A DOLPHIN.

Today the song "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" is considered a classic of contemporary Greek music and of course all over the world over as BOY ON A DOLPHIN.

Very briefly in the beginning of the following You Tube link one can view an interview segment showing an aged yet vibrant Danai. She refers to the BOY ON A DOLPHIN song, "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" as painful and a wound. Following, one can hear one of the countless Greek vocal interpetations of "Ti Ine Afto Pou To Lene Agapi" sung beautifully by acclaimed Greek singer Nena Venetsanou. ............... thanks so much, that was so interesting, and u are right about Sophia Loren singing the song in greek, its beautiful, this version is on the cd where she sings songs from her movies,,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRvbJO9930

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2017 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Ok, i bump this thread, because I'm just watching Boy on a dolphin for the first time (i'm half in the movie), and I must say I was simply appalled reading the liner notes on the Intrada release by Mrs Kirgo and the notes by Mr. Friedhofer himself!!

The song of course is NOT composed by Friedhofer, but by the Greek composer Takis Morakis as previously said.
So, why mr. Friedhoder doesn't give credit where credit is due, and Mrs. Kirgos' notes aren't better researched?

Thus said, I don't also think Friedhoder alone deserved the Oscar nomination, since from what I've heard, there are 2 notable themes in this, and the most characteristic and beautiful one that serves as a basis for the score, is the one by the Greek composer.

So, we have:
no mention to the actual composer of the song by the composer of the film score.
no mention by Mrs. Kirgo in the liner notes (she says about the song: Friedhofer's music is startingly beautiful)
no mention in the credits of the Intrada release.
(they say: "Boy on a dolphin" music by Hugo Friedhofer)

This is not considered folk music where you can't know or you don't mention the composer.
It's actually a song composed by a specific person.

Fortunately, the credit is there on the film itself, in the opening credits!
Although, still I have a disagreement with the "based on tinafto music" credit.
When we say "based" we usually mean that the composer took a melody as a base and variated it and took it further.
This is not a variation or anything else. This is the actual song composed by Morakis!

so, the correct way for the credit in the film would be this:
Song "Boy on a dolphin"
Music by Takis Morakis

Also, a question:
Does anyone know why the actual rendition by Lauren and the Greek singer Tonis Maroudas wasn't included in the Intrada release?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Ok, i bump this thread, because I'm just watching Boy on a dolphin for the first time (i'm half in the movie), and I must say I was simply appalled reading the liner notes on the Intrada release by Mrs Kirgo and the notes by Mr. Friedhofer himself!!
The song of course is NOT composed by Friedhofer, but by the Greek composer Takis Morakis as previously said.
So, why mr. Friedhoder doesn't give credit where credit is due, and Mrs. Kirgos' notes aren't better researched?
...
So, we have:
no mention to the actual composer of the song by the composer of the film score.
no mention by Mrs. Kirgo in the liner notes (she says about the song: Friedhofer's music is startingly beautiful)
no mention in the credits of the Intrada release.
(they say: "Boy on a dolphin" music by Hugo Friedhofer)
This is not considered folk music where you can't know or you don't mention the composer.
It's actually a song composed by a specific person.
Fortunately, the credit is there on the film itself, in the opening credits!
Although, still I have a disagreement with the "based on tinafto music" credit.
When we say "based" we usually mean that the composer took a melody as a base and variated it and took it further.
This is not a variation or anything else. This is the actual song composed by Morakis!

so, the correct way for the credit in the film would be this:
Song "Boy on a dolphin"
Music by Takis Morakis


Sheet music from the time of the film does give this credit:

 
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