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 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

A great & strange musical (the Paramount DVD looks very good), but it doesn't look like the soundtrack has ever been released on CD. The LP came out on Columbia Records, I don't know if the rights have since reverted to Paramount. It would be great to have a CD of this, in stereo if possible, the DVD is mono.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I found it!

The last time Paramount was interested in releasing show music . . .





. . . I believe Wilson was President.


(Just thought I'd make the first joke about Paramount. Anybody else got one?)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


The soundtrack to abner is strange as much of it is NOT the same as in the actual film. Orchestrations and vocal interpretations are different.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   GMP   (Member)

This falls under the Columbia Sony label - unfortunately along with "Scrooge" "1776" and "A Little Night Music"

Columbia has no interest in releasing these soundtracks on CD or licensing them out. They will forever remain lost

(Abner's Columbia LP is the only stereo recording of the score and features many of the original cast - as does "1776" and "A Little Night Music" which I love for the ochestrations)


The only Coulmbia LP musical film soundtracks SONY has issued on CD are:
Annie
Funny Girl
My Fair Lady
and
West Side Story (the less said about this release the better)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Always have enjoyed "The Country's In The Very Best Of Hands".

Peter Palmer was our next-door neighbor when I was a toddler in the late 1950s. It was nice tracking him down about 12 years ago (my folks' 50th wedding anniversary) after all this time. Turned out he and I were neighbors again as I worked and he lived in the Tampa Bay area.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

At least we've got the superb original cast album on Sony -it's really fantastic and highly recommended.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2008 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   sammyp   (Member)

At least we've got the superb original cast album on Sony -it's really fantastic and highly recommended.

It also includes a couple of the movie songs which were not part of the stage original as bonus tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2008 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

The soundtrack to abner is strange as much of it is NOT the same as in the actual film. Orchestrations and vocal interpretations are different.

Ah, so it's a good idea that I'm making my own soundtrack CD (DVD > Minidisc > edit Minidisc > CD). I'm also going to investigate the org. cast album. Thanks for the info.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2008 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

The original cast album is the way to go -- as I recall the movie eviscerated the song score but the film's screenplay kept intact almost every single word from the Broadway book/script. Not exactly a shock as the Director of the film, Melvin Frank, was also the author of the original Broadway book/script (along with Norman Panama). But...lots of dialogue!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2008 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   jskoda   (Member)

The soundtrack to abner is strange as much of it is NOT the same as in the actual film. Orchestrations and vocal interpretations are different.

Really strange sound too, esp. on the stereo version. Orchestra sounds bright and clear and the vocals muddled and weak.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

It was on TCM late last night (EST) and I watched an hour. The color was brilliant as was the widescreen view, although there was a slight VistaVision curvature. I picked up the DVD today at the library and watched a few moments. The DVD states "widescreen" but it has been modified to fill up the standard TV screen. The distortion is a bit disconcerting. Wish I had the TCM recording.

Anyway, this is the way they used to make 'em and why you gotta love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eow041tUPBA&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It was on TCM late last night (EST) and I watched an hour. The color was brilliant as was the widescreen view, although there was a slight VistaVision curvature. I picked up the DVD today at the library and watched a few moments. The DVD states "widescreen" but it has been modified to fill up the standard TV screen. The distortion is a bit disconcerting. Wish I had the TCM recording.

Anyway, this is the way they used to make 'em and why you gotta love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eow041tUPBA&feature=related


You are so wrong. The distortion on TCM was THEIR problem - they took a flat open matte print and stretched it is what it looked like to me. The DVD IS widescreen (have you even SEEN it???) and perfect. No "curvature" no "distortion" just a perfect and beautiful widescreen transfer, anamorphically enhanced for widescreen TVs.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

This is strange, for again, the TCM airing was superior to the so-called widescreen DVD I now have in my possession. Re the latter, it was not a widescreen TV used for the clips I saw this afternoon; as such, there were no letterbox bars per TCM airing. I will place it on the projector screen shortly and give it a look.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   Brad Wills   (Member)

You are so wrong. The distortion on TCM was THEIR problem - they took a flat open matte print and stretched it is what it looked like to me. The DVD IS widescreen (have you even SEEN it???) and perfect. No "curvature" no "distortion" just a perfect and beautiful widescreen transfer, anamorphically enhanced for widescreen TVs.

Bruce is correct. I'm watching the TCM airing right now and it's definitely an open-matte print. You can see light grids at the top of the screen, the upper edge of the cyclorama, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Brad Wills   (Member)

Boom mikes, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 11:54 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

This is strange, for again, the TCM airing was superior to the so-called widescreen DVD I now have in my possession. Re the latter, it was not a widescreen TV used for the clips I saw this afternoon; as such, there were no letterbox bars per TCM airing. I will place it on the projector screen shortly and give it a look.

HowardL, we love you, but have you lost your marbles. If so, really try and find them. The Li'l Abner DVD is WIDESCREEN, enhanced for widescreen TVS and will fill the widescreen TV top to bottom and side to side - it is an excellent transfer, sharp and colorful. If it isn't on your setup, I'd recommend a new setup.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2009 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Lighten up, Francis, I just tested the DVD on the projector with the latter's regular settings and the picture was so huge that it overran the screen, so I merely adjusted the lens and was left with a positively marvelous widescreen beauty. It is gorgeous alright.

The problem earlier, again, was watching the DVD on a regular good old fashioned TV. Which will not be done again. For the fun of it, I am going to view a portion on a good new fashioned widescreen TV, too. Nothing like having all 3 bases covered--for the sake of education and experimentation [read: do it while all this stuff is laying around the house and enjoy the embarrassment of riches].

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2009 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I love this film, it's bonkers! I can see why Paramount never released it in England, it's so....American.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2009 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

I love this film, it's bonkers! I can see why Paramount never released it in England, it's so....American.

Err!......Paramount DID release "L'il Abner" in England Big Al.

Just checked the dates in my Funk 'n' Wagnell, and I see that it played in one of our downtown cinemas (and later, the locals) in September, 1960.
It was popular too, 'cos it was held over for a second week.

I also remember that "Jubilation T. Cornpone" was a big hit over here, and was a staple for a long time on radio request shows.



 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2009 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

You are so wrong. The distortion on TCM was THEIR problem - they took a flat open matte print and stretched it is what it looked like to me. The DVD IS widescreen (have you even SEEN it???) and perfect. No "curvature" no "distortion" just a perfect and beautiful widescreen transfer, anamorphically enhanced for widescreen TVs.

Bruce is correct. I'm watching the TCM airing right now and it's definitely an open-matte print. You can see light grids at the top of the screen, the upper edge of the cyclorama, etc.



I also noticed that on several occasions. And I saw this film, twice, when it first came out, and never saw that.

Odd that they'd let those angle shots get through...

 
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