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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Complete TOM SAWYER Sherman Bros. John Williams     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jun 20, 2009 - 2:56 AM     By:   Zooba   (Member) Wouldn't that be a great release? There is so much Williams REIVERS Like music and underscore not on the released soundtrack. I really love the Sherman Bros. music and John Williams just elevated it all with pure fun, energy and class. With the wonderful complete release of GOODBYE MR. CHIPS, Lukas, Doug, Robert, is this a possibility? Please share your thoughts on the film and score. Zoob Here's the much different and expanded Main Title (not heard on the CD): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghKeILWt128&feature=related and listen to the great Williams stuff starting at 4:23 on this clip and the great orchestrations under the songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTZ1Jrs5FUc&feature=related Also some good Williams suspense music in the Cave sequence and Chase starting at 6:27 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAw7lWkvb2g&feature=related    Posted:   Jun 22, 2009 - 11:52 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Here are a couple of earlier threads on the score: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=34711&forumID=1&archive=1 http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=11490&forumID=1&archive=1 Personally, I'm not the biggest fan of this score, and think the existing soundtrack (coupled with the slightly annoying HUCKLEBERRY FINN) is MORE than good enough. That said, I'm very curious about how it works in context. I'd like to see the film some day.    Posted:   Jun 22, 2009 - 12:05 PM     By:   Ray Faiola   (Member) I must say, being a fan of the Selznick classic, I have a VERY hard time looking at this picture. It's saccharine to the extreme.    Posted:   Jun 22, 2009 - 12:08 PM     By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member) --Yeah, but how 'bout just LISTENING to it? (I admit I'm just giving this thread a little bump so that someone else besides me can also have the pleasure of misinterpreting the purpose of the thread, and of thinking for a brief moment that "Huckleberry Finn" is one of the new Intrada releases.)    Posted:   Jun 22, 2009 - 12:41 PM     By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member) Mmmmmmmmmmm....maybe. Could they leave out the songs?    Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 8:42 AM     By:   Pennywise   (Member) Wouldn't that be a great release? There is so much Williams REIVERS Like music and underscore not on the released soundtrack. I really love the Sherman Bros. music and John Williams just elevated it all with pure fun, energy and class. With the wonderful complete release of GOODBYE MR. CHIPS, Lukas, Doug, Robert, is this a possibility? Please share your thoughts on the film and score. Zoob Here's the much different and expanded Main Title (not heard on the CD): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghKeILWt128&feature=related and listen to the great Williams stuff starting at 4:23 on this clip and the great orchestrations under the songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTZ1Jrs5FUc&feature=related Also some good Williams suspense music in the Cave sequence and Chase starting at 6:27 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAw7lWkvb2g&feature=related I'd forgotten how great the beginning of that main title is. This underscore would be a good one to have.    Posted:   Jun 23, 2009 - 11:12 PM     By:   Philip Colston   (Member) I don’t think any film score has captured Mark Twain’s world of Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer as well as Jerome Moross’ glorious “Huckleberry Finn” of 1960. The film itself was not quite up to the score, though it was one of the better versions of the story, which has never had a perfect realisation on film. That said, I think that the absolutely wonderful “River Song” title theme in the 1973 version of “Tom Sawyer”, written by the Sherman brothers, and beautifully orchestrated by John Williams, comes very close to Moross’ achievement—in capturing the sensibility of the story and its setting. When this film, and its twin “Huckleberry Finn”, came out, I was not keen on the idea of musical versions of these stories—and my opinion about the infelicity of the concept remains unchanged. But the Sherman brothers are superb songwriters, and they did some interesting things in these films (which even without songs would not have been great achievements), such as when Aunt Polly (the under-appreciated but always superb Celeste Holm), Cousin Sidney, and Cousin Mary sing “Tom Sawyer!” in canonic counterpoint. In general, the songs in these films are quite good—it is the combination making these great stories into musicals that is not so good, though the films are very pleasant to watch. John Williams’ score and orchestrations are perfect. I have the current CD, but would purchase a complete release.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2011 - 11:10 AM     By:   Sean   (Member) Bereft to discover that this release is OOP. Put it in a recent SAE order, and was regretfully informed it went the way of the dodo a while back. Yes, it's saccharine, and No, the Sherman Bros. songs aren't on a par with "Mary Poppins" or even "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang," but it's still a record of one of the finest songwriting teams ever to grace film, and has a lovely John Williams underscore to boot. An expansion would be wonderful, or even a re-release of the OST.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2011 - 11:47 AM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) I recall borrowing the vinyl LP from the library back in the '70s ... I think I'd heard the main song and wanted to hear more (I've never seen the film). But apart from the fabulous Charlie Pride song there was nothing else to interest me. But I have, of late, been looking to buy a collection of Charlie Pride music ... he had such a wonderful voice.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2011 - 12:11 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) Although I will happily take whatever unreleased Williams comes my way (I have Nightwatch and War Horse winging their way to me at the mo), this score (TOM SAWYER) and STORY OF A WOMAN currently sit at the top of my Williams most wanted list. I quite like the songs in this film, but it's the score that blows me away. I've always loved Williams in that Reivers and Conrack mode, and this one ebbs and flows with that great 70's Americana sound. There's about 15-20 minutes of fantastic score that's never been heard outside the film that I'd love to hear on CD. I would wager others would too. Maybe one day.    Posted:   Nov 20, 2011 - 10:44 PM     By:   dan the man   (Member) To Music Mad-yes i agree that was a great song by Charlie Pride, also really liked How come[another solid song]    Posted:   Nov 21, 2011 - 3:25 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Although I will happily take whatever unreleased Williams comes my way (I have Nightwatch and War Horse winging their way to me at the mo), this score (TOM SAWYER) and STORY OF A WOMAN currently sit at the top of my Williams most wanted list. I quite like the songs in this film, but it's the score that blows me away. I've always loved Williams in that Reivers and Conrack mode, and this one ebbs and flows with that great 70's Americana sound. There's about 15-20 minutes of fantastic score that's never been heard outside the film that I'd love to hear on CD. I would wager others would too. Maybe one day. There is SOME of his score on the CD too, esp. in the overture where he weaves orchestral renditions of the Sherman songs with his own dramatic underscore. But yeah, there could be a neat 15-minute suite or something of more score. See the previous thread on these bits: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=34711&forumID=1&archive=1    Posted:   Nov 21, 2011 - 1:50 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) Indeed there is Thor, but even those versions on the LP are different and in most cases, edited, from their film versions. This score AND the film versions of the song renditions are crying out for a complete expansion.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2013 - 1:07 PM     By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member) I watched this film recently and thought the score by Williams was quite good. Is there anything holding up a complete release of this score, along the lines of FSM's GOODBYE MR CHIPS 3 discer? Are the tapes missing? Is it a problem with the film companies? A complete issue of FIDDLER ON THE ROOF wouldn't go amiss either. Any knowledge from the great out there?    Posted:   Mar 15, 2013 - 1:22 PM     By:   Jameson281   (Member) There is no Williams-composed underscore in the film. All compositions are credited on the cue sheet to the Sherman Brothers, with Williams as conductor/music supervisor.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2013 - 1:26 PM     By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member) That may be the case, but the dramatic score sections sure sounded like John Williams to me. One bit could have come straight off his DRACULA CD.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2013 - 2:01 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) There is no Williams-composed underscore in the film. All compositions are credited on the cue sheet to the Sherman Brothers, with Williams as conductor/music supervisor. I'm not sure about that in reality, though. There are some bits that are unmistakably Williams, like when Huck Finn sails out on his raft. I refer you to the link I gave above.    Posted:   Mar 15, 2013 - 2:13 PM     By:   Jameson281   (Member) I'm only going by what it says on the cue sheet. It's possible that Williams ghosted some cues, or maybe he arranged some of the Sherman Brothers material in his own style.    Posted:   Mar 16, 2013 - 7:04 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I've asked the question before about a possible expanded release of this but never got an answer! The 20 minutes or so of music between the songs is unmistakeable John Williams score and there are many cues that do not feature reference to the songs. It's also quite brilliant, in a Reivers/Conrack kind of way. The songs as heard in the film are longer and usually feature extensive Williams music before and after certain songs. A 2 or 3 disc release of this score, like Mr Chips, would be a dream come true for me. That would leave only Story Of A Woman to complete my most desired JW wants.    Posted:   Mar 16, 2013 - 7:23 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I've asked the question before about a possible expanded release of this but never got an answer! The 20 minutes or so of music between the songs is unmistakeable John Williams score and doesn't feature reference to any of the songs. It's also quite brilliant, in a Reivers and Conrack kind of way. Exactly. No way those minutes are written by the Shermans, whatever the cue sheets say. It's straight out of Williams' back of tricks.     General Discussion: Complete TOM SAWYER Sherman Bros. John Williams    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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