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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2010 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Thorpe   (Member)

So, what's the deal with the soundtrack? There was an LP I read about but it was discontinued quickly. There's no CD release but there is some unused material from the composer on a compilation release. However, this is not what I am looking for.

Is there any release form of the music from this film (not necessarily the songs)? There were some great, intense/deep themes throughout. For example, the one below from beginning of video. Anyone know who did this and if it was released?

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2010 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Wendy Carlos actually released two volumes of her film music and most of The Shining score composed by her appears in some form on these discs. You have to get both though because various cues are spread out between them.

http://www.wendycarlos.com/discs.html

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2010 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Thorpe   (Member)

Wendy Carlos actually released two volumes of her film music and most of The Shining score composed by her appears in some form on these discs. You have to get both though because various cues are spread out between them.

http://www.wendycarlos.com/discs.html


Is the one from the beginning of this clip featured on one of those do you know?

EDIT: Found it thanks to the sample feature on the Amazon product page. It's "Heartbeats and Worry" track (I went straight to this track because this track did have a 'heartbeat' effect to it). Absolutely love this theme! I will try and hunt down the CDs also. wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2010 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Howlin' Wolf Records   (Member)

Some of the themes used in the film are composed and conducted by Krzysztof Penderecki. I love the track you guys are referring to also!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 4:40 AM   
 By:   neelyre   (Member)

This has always been a topic for discussion because there has never been a legit release (other than the brief withdrawn LP) of the soudtrack. There have been a few bootlegs that appear on ebay but never anything complete. As a long time fan of the music of the movie, Here is all the music in the movie and composer (you can google them for discographys of their work and cds available of them).

- Main Title & Rocky Mountains (Carlos [rediscovering lost scores Vol. 1 & 2])
- Lontano - (Gyorgy Ligeti)
- Music for strings, percussion, & celesta (Bela Bartok)
- Dream of Jacob - Krzysztof Penderecki
- De Natura Sonoris #1 & #2 - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Kanon for Orchestra & Tape -Krzysztof Penderecki
- Polymorphia - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Utrenja - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Heartbeats - (Carlos [rediscovering lost scores Vol. 1 & 2])

The songs are 'Home', 'midnight with the stars and you', 'It's all fogotten now', & 'Masquerade'

Much of the music was mixed and overdubbed so you'll never quite hear anything as exactly as it is heard in the film.

But if you want to acquire and build your own, here is a good start. Enjoy!

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Those two Carlos discs are a must have for fans of The Shining score. It has everything she wrote on there. Don't be put off by the horrid graphic design on the covers.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   El Goodo   (Member)

Check out this interview with Gordon Stainforth, the music editor on The Shining.
Essential reading for fans of the music in the film.

http://www.amateurhometheater.com/gato/felix_stainforth_interview.html

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

The Carlos discs are indeed worthwhile. I liked the additional material from TRON that was included as well, featuring the "Light Cycles" cue that was featured on the deluxe laserdisc edition.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Check out this interview with Gordon Stainforth, the music editor on The Shining.
Essential reading for fans of the music in the film.

http://www.amateurhometheater.com/gato/felix_stainforth_interview.html


VERY interesting, thanks for sharing the link. I have a "version" of this on CD and I love it so much, the music is just great, a legit CD someday would be most welcome.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Still have my LP. I wasn't aware it never saw a legit release after that. Glad I never get rid of or trade any of my LPs or CDs (lost a few great ones though). It seems there be treasure in them thar shelves, arrrrhh!

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Thorpe   (Member)

Very interesting interview. It too would be something I would be proud of.

Also, thanks for listing the additional music.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Wasn't there a VERY rare release of the complete soundtrack to The Shining, which was given away free with some movie magazine in Japan, or does my memory deceive me?

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

There are those that claim that the "promo" you speak of is fully liscenced and legit (just like the Japanese Fright Night), but I have yet to see proof that they aren't just bootlegs.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Found some more info on it here:

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=38159

It's the Reflex Records release, first one in the list of releases.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2010 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

Yup, that's the one. The notion that they were able to negotiate what Lukas described as convoluted legalities is absurd. But I'm sure those who own one are very adamant that it's a legal release.

"Reflex" also released the 150 "real Fright Night" cd's that were sourced from the lossy bootleg source. Roger Fiegelson has claimed the master tapes are AWOL.

I have a question:

Does anyone know where to find the FILM recording of Polymorphia? The LP is clearly a different recording. Listen to where Jack is chasing Danny through the hedge maze. I've never heard a recording that has the intensity of the strings heard in the film. Same goes for the "Here's Johnny!" scene. The snarling brass is different on the LP .

But Lontano and the Bartok piece are film versions on the LP.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2010 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   Superman   (Member)

This has always been a topic for discussion because there has never been a legit release (other than the brief withdrawn LP) of the soudtrack. There have been a few bootlegs that appear on ebay but never anything complete. As a long time fan of the music of the movie, Here is all the music in the movie and composer (you can google them for discographys of their work and cds available of them).

- Main Title & Rocky Mountains (Carlos [rediscovering lost scores Vol. 1 & 2])
- Lontano - (Gyorgy Ligeti)
- Music for strings, percussion, & celesta (Bela Bartok)
- Dream of Jacob - Krzysztof Penderecki
- De Natura Sonoris #1 & #2 - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Kanon for Orchestra & Tape -Krzysztof Penderecki
- Polymorphia - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Utrenja - Krzysztof Penderecki
- Heartbeats - (Carlos [rediscovering lost scores Vol. 1 & 2])

The songs are 'Home', 'midnight with the stars and you', 'It's all fogotten now', & 'Masquerade'

Much of the music was mixed and overdubbed so you'll never quite hear anything as exactly as it is heard in the film.

But if you want to acquire and build your own, here is a good start. Enjoy!



A couple of questions:

Question 1: If "Midnight, the stars & you" is played when Jack bumps into Grady and at the end, and "It's all forgotten now" & "Home" is played during the bathroom scene with Grady, where is "Masquerade" played?

Question 2: Who composed/sings "Masquerade"? Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2010 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Kolchak   (Member)

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that the Main Title from "The Shining" is a note-for-note lift from the Main Title to "The Return of Dracula" by Gerald Fried. Obviously there are differences in the tempo between the two, but it's there.

Anyone else pick up on this?


Gerald Fried 2CD Set: The Return of Dracula (1957-62) FSM0104

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=1712


Track one - Starting at the :36 second mark and it goes on from there. The melody is played throughout the score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2010 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that the Main Title from "The Shining" is a note-for-note lift from the Main Title to "The Return of Dracula" by Gerald Fried. Obviously there are differences in the tempo between the two, but it's there.

Anyone else pick up on this?


Gerald Fried 2CD Set: The Return of Dracula (1957-62) FSM0104

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=1712


Track one - Starting at the :36 second mark and it goes on from there. The melody is played throughout the score.


It's not really a lift unless you say the same for both. The melody is a quote of the medieval Dies Irae (Day of Wrath) Latin modal chant/hymn. It's been used in music pretty much nonstop since that time.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2010 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yup, that's the one. The notion that they were able to negotiate what Lukas described as convoluted legalities is absurd. But I'm sure those who own one are very adamant that it's a legal release.

"Reflex" also released the 150 "real Fright Night" cd's that were sourced from the lossy bootleg source. Roger Fiegelson has claimed the master tapes are AWOL.

I have a question:

Does anyone know where to find the FILM recording of Polymorphia? The LP is clearly a different recording. Listen to where Jack is chasing Danny through the hedge maze. I've never heard a recording that has the intensity of the strings heard in the film. Same goes for the "Here's Johnny!" scene. The snarling brass is different on the LP .

But Lontano and the Bartok piece are film versions on the LP.


Read that interview (posted above) with the music editor. It answers at least one of your questions as to why the Penderecki sounds different.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2010 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

There are those that claim that the "promo" you speak of is fully liscenced and legit (just like the Japanese Fright Night), but I have yet to see proof that they aren't just bootlegs.


I seem to recall that their is some sort of "RIGHTS ISSUE" that has made an official release of "THE SHINING" not possible, I don't recall what it was exactly, but there is an issue.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
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