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 Posted:   May 27, 2011 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Gutenberg   (Member)

I'm not interested in gaming, or audio messages, or video messages, or anything other than PLAYING Blu Ray and Netflix streaming. Anybody have any suggestions?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2011 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Wal-mart practically gives them away for 70 or 80 samolians....

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2011 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

I'm not interested in gaming, or audio messages, or video messages, or anything other than PLAYING Blu Ray and Netflix streaming. Anybody have any suggestions?

I've been through a bunch of different players over the years. My favorite bargain-priced player right now is Best Buy's Insignia NS-BRDVD4, which streams Netflix and is quite reliable I've found for BD's. It also is region-free for both BD and DVD provided you use firmware prior to this past February (you can find the older firmware on the BB website). I ended up buying a refurb model on Ebay for $50 for the bedroom and have not regretted it at all.

There are also many other fine players out there for a bit more...basically it all depends on what's on sale at the time you go to look. No matter what you do, I would definitely at this point not spend much more than $80 or so -- you can get everything you really need from a BD player under $100 these days.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2011 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Funny - I have just been trawling the web trying to answer the exact same question myself (except I'm in the UK). I have yet to come up with the definitive answer. That Insignia machine does not look like it's available in the UK and the cost of postage from the US would blow any value out of the water. Anyone clue me in? Again - not so bothered for time being on BD-Live etc...only real requisites are upscaling DVD, playing Blus, and - well - that's it. Optical Out would be a bonus, but not essential.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   sprocket   (Member)

I'm not sure how it translates to the U.S. or the U.K., but as the owner of an older TV, I need to get a bluray player with the right output connection. This year, manufacturers in Canada (where I live) have eliminated the component output, so I can't buy the latest generation of many players and keep the same TV.

Why would I want a bluray player with an older TV? Just for future proofing. I keep electronics forever...

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

One of the LG models. Netflix, Youtube, Pandora, MLBTV all standard. I love mine.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I've been through a bunch of different players over the years. My favorite bargain-priced player right now is Best Buy's Insignia NS-BRDVD4, which streams Netflix and is quite reliable I've found for BD's. It also is region-free for both BD and DVD provided you use firmware prior to this past February (you can find the older firmware on the BB website). I ended up buying a refurb model on Ebay for $50 for the bedroom and have not regretted it at all.

Does it play PAL discs? My Phillips DVD player (DVP642) just died after 3 years and I'm looking for a good, cheap replacement. I've been looking at the newer Phillips DVD players (DVP 3560) at Best Buy. I'm looking for something in the $40. range.

What do people think of refurbished players?

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I would have no hesitation in buying a refurbished player providing it was a good deal...

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I would have no hesitation in buying a refurbished player providing it was a good deal...

Best Buy also has some factory refurbished Phillips DVD players for $25. that I was considering.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

My laserdisc player, Pioneer Elite receiver and DVD player are all refurbished, and I've had them for a very long time. Especially the laserdisc and receiver.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Amazing prices. It's almost like buying a bottle of Coke. Relatively speaking.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I thought it was too good to be true when I found a refurbished award-winning Sony Home Theatre package for £75 - regular price was around £500 - snapped it up....amazing stuff...and not a single problem in 2 years (unlike the Philips system I had to replace! Strange - Philips is reliable stuff....think I just got a duff one)....

This Blu-Ray Player seems to have a good rep - http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-Electronics-BD550-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B0048WQ38E/ref=dp_return_2?ie=UTF8&n=560798&s=electronics - might be time to take the plunge....

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

The makers netflix apps are not all the same. I have a Sony BDP S570 and I love the player (I bought it new for 125.00), but you can not see the film fast forward or rewind while using netflix like I can with the LG player I have. I am not sure if all Sony Netflix apps are that way, and it may or may not be a deal breaker for you, but it is something to think about. The actual Blu Ray load time is something to possibly consider also.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

The actual Blu Ray load time is something to possibly consider also.

They vary that much?

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2011 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

The new players load much faster. If that is a concern for you, I would get a 2010 or 2011 model. The first and second generation players were pretty slow. I bought the top of the line LG Blu Ray player in 2009, and one of the big selling points of the LG player I have was the loading speed. It is not bad and not really noticeably slower, but the Sony I bought in 2010 for another room is faster than it and I paid about a third of the price. Blu Ray players have come a long way in a short time and technology wise, all the makers are getting closer, but there is still a little difference in load speed. The new Panasonic players and Sony's do best at load times. I don't think any of the 2011 models have composite connections or the 7.1 analog outputs (maybe universal players made by Oppo or Denon), but if you are going to use HDMI it does not matter.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2011 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

I've been through a bunch of different players over the years. My favorite bargain-priced player right now is Best Buy's Insignia NS-BRDVD4, which streams Netflix and is quite reliable I've found for BD's. It also is region-free for both BD and DVD provided you use firmware prior to this past February (you can find the older firmware on the BB website). I ended up buying a refurb model on Ebay for $50 for the bedroom and have not regretted it at all.

Does it play PAL discs? My Phillips DVD player (DVP642) just died after 3 years and I'm looking for a good, cheap replacement. I've been looking at the newer Phillips DVD players (DVP 3560) at Best Buy. I'm looking for something in the $40. range.

What do people think of refurbished players?

Greg Espinoza


It does play PAL Greg provided you use the December 2010 firmware. Some of the other Insignia BD player models also use the same hack to play DVD & BDs from other regions:

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-ray-bargains/111753-best-buys-89-insignia-player-multi-region-bd-dvd.html

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2011 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

The actual Blu Ray load time is something to possibly consider also.

They vary that much?


I agree with scrapsly's reply to your question regarding load times. I noticed especially in first generation Blu-Ray player reviews, and second generation reviews continued remarking upon this, that load times were frequently covered in the review and factored into a player's recommendation, whether a star rating or a "Pros and Cons" summary. I remember remarks like "At almost 2 minutes to load a disc, it's frustratingly slow" and "At 82 seconds it's among the quickest to load in our test".

Because of the improvement in the latest generation of players, and probably the fact that first and second generation players were being compared to DVD functionality (with its rapid loading time) and by now the quirks and traits of Blu-Rays are much more known and accepted, I don't see that statistic mentioned as much these days. The latest generation of players have improved load speeds by nature of better/faster processors onboard or some techniques of pre-loading/partial loading that can still allow loading to happen in the background while the menu is presented and you're navigating it.

Here's a few older links that compare loading times:

http://www.cnet.com.au/blu-ray-player-loading-times-compared-339293617.htm
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-players-recorders/74197-blu-ray-com-exclusive-blu-ray-player-benchmarks.html


Just as scrapsly says, I think it's more inconsequential now. But if you're very fussy about load times, you can probably still find that statistic in a detailed review of a unit you're considering.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Bumping this up.

My Phillips SD DVD player just died and it's time to get another. I've had all-region DVD players for quite a few years now. I figured I might as well get a blu-ray player that plays all-region this time, with of course, SD DVD playback. I have a ton of R2 PAL discs I've accumulated.

I'm on a tight budget and I'm looking at buying one around $100. Been researching, looking at Phillips and Sony players. Had good luck with Phillips players, so I'm looking at Phillips players as they are more all-region friendly.

I do have a blu-ray player, which is my Playstation 3. I plan to eventually get a PS4, so a new player would be my secondary player.

I've read about the firmware issues, (don't upgrade as it will eliminate the hack?) but one problem I've read about with cheaper players is the SD DVD part is all-region, but the blu-ray player does not play all-region. I really want a player that will do it all.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


I've read about the firmware issues, (don't upgrade as it will eliminate the hack?) but one problem I've read about with cheaper players is the SD DVD part is all-region, but the blu-ray player does not play all-region. I really want a player that will do it all.

Greg Espinoza


I also have a PS3 and consider it an amazing blu-ray player, however it isn't region free. So I bought myself a pioneer BDP-150s (in the 100 $ range) which I had to unlock myself by downloading the firmware onto a usb stick and installing it on the player (you can find guides on avsforum for different models).

The only downside is that due to the "region free" firmware, I can't use the online services (youtube, ...) but I wanted the player just to play movies anyway. It plays 3D and also does a fine job on the upscaling for regular dvds. The firmware I've installed allows me to play any region DVD as well as blu-ray, only for the blu-rays I have to adjust the code via the remote every time I need to switch from A to B (I don't own region C blu's).

If you feel confident in 'hacking' a player yourself, I suggest getting a cheap model and adjust it to go region free. If you don't, there are ready models but expect to pay near double the price.

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)

Bumping this up.

My Phillips SD DVD player just died and it's time to get another. I've had all-region DVD players for quite a few years now. I figured I might as well get a blu-ray player that plays all-region this time, with of course, SD DVD playback. I have a ton of R2 PAL discs I've accumulated.

I'm on a tight budget and I'm looking at buying one around $100. Been researching, looking at Phillips and Sony players. Had good luck with Phillips players, so I'm looking at Phillips players as they are more all-region friendly.

I do have a blu-ray player, which is my Playstation 3. I plan to eventually get a PS4, so a new player would be my secondary player.

I've read about the firmware issues, (don't upgrade as it will eliminate the hack?) but one problem I've read about with cheaper players is the SD DVD part is all-region, but the blu-ray player does not play all-region. I really want a player that will do it all.

Greg Espinoza


I used to have an LG Blu Ray player. It had been modified to play all regions. After a while, it started to develop playback issues, but only with the blu ray discs. The DVDs were fine. So, I decided to upgrade to a Samsung BD-F5700 which works a treat. All my blu rays and dvds, no problem.

 
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