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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   scorechaser   (Member)

I think, it is safe to say, that Philip K Dick is next to Franz Kafka my favorite author. I have read his novels in german, and now I am re-reading them in english. His visions, his writing improved with each novel, since I am reading them as they were published. I am currently reading "Time Out Of Joint", which I enjoy a lot. I have read "The World Jones made" first, and thought it was ok, but a little uneven in places. Next up is "The Man In The High Castle".

Any opinions on this great author?

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

. Next up is "The Man In The High Castle".

Any opinions on this great author?


like you said "great author"

TMITHC is considered his best book by most fans. enjoy!

A SCANNER DARKLY is his best imho
FLOW MY TEARS, THE POLICEMEN SAID is up there too
bruce

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I've read some of his work and carried a copy of "Do Androids Dream..." around in my backpack throughout highschool. Though I don't dislike him like I would other writers, I do find his stuff very ... dry and high concept. Not that I dislike it but I have to be in a rare mood to get through his stuff.

(All this said from the guy with a row of Robert E Howard books on his shelf!)

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I can't say enough about PKD, he's been highly influential yet I don't disagree with LeHah. I admire and obsess over his works, yet they are so flawed. It wasn't until recently that I started to really loathe his treatment of females. And as much as Robert E. Howard was accused of being racist, his black characters are incredibly well-developed and usually more intelligent and cunning than his white protagonists and such. With Dick, women are always background peripherals, many malicious for no purpose, and others useless. It's a crying shame that every writer has these inevitable flaws, because PKD could've possibly been a revolutionary in literature during his time. I think what he has influenced has been incredible though, and I am thankful for what he has given me as a reader. I will always read his books and stories (though the stories are becoming more digestible as I get a little older).

I'm trying to get ahold of The Owl in Daylight which was finished by his wife Tessa, but if one ventures on over to Amazon you can see why it's a bitch to find and/or have enough to pay for it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

And if one needs any hindsight on his mental condition, his family has left behind many a tale about his paranoias and fever-dreams. Something truly troubled an incredible brilliant man...

"Phil theorized that we were actually living in ancient Rome... The world of 1974 was an illusion, and no real time had passed in almost two thousand years. The modern world was simply overlaid, resting on top of ancient Rome. The Empire never ended. He was informed of this fact, not only by his visions, but also by time travelers who instructed him. He said that they were hiding in the corners of our living room... Phil said that they were very timid and expressed shock when they realized that he could see them." --Tessa Dick

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

I have a short story collection called "The Philip K. Dick Reader." Some of the stories included are the source for film adaptations, such as Total Recall, Minority Report, Screamers, and Next (although most have different titles). I haven't read all of them, but one I really enjoyed was a story called "The Hanging Stranger." Another story called "Fair Game" is interesting, but then has a completely unexpected, funny, and downright bizarre ending.

I also have a copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, which I bought earlier this summer when one of my Borders stores was closing, but have not had a chance to read it yet.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I also have a copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, which I bought earlier this summer when one of my Borders stores was closing, but have not had a chance to read it yet.

This is a very good book, so I hope you enjoy it. Although I felt like Ridley Scott and co. improved upon the source material with this one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

I have a short story collection called "The Philip K. Dick" reader. Some of the stories included are the source for film adaptations, such as Total Recall, Minority Report, Screamers, and Next (although most have different titles). I haven't read all of them, but one I really enjoyed was a story called "The Hanging Stranger." Another story called "Fair Game" is interesting, but then has a completely unexpected, funny, and downright bizarre ending.

I also have a copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, which I bought earlier this summer when one of my Borders stores was closing, but have not had a chance to read it yet.


Yeah, most of those appeared in the "The Preservation Machine". Interesting to read in comparison to all the films. The Story "Recall" is actually closer than "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" to the film Total Recall. Though, "W.C.R.I.F.Y.W." is the story credited for Total Recall.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

"Phil theorized that we were actually living in ancient Rome... The world of 1974 was an illusion, and no real time had passed in almost two thousand years. The modern world was simply overlaid, resting on top of ancient Rome. The Empire never ended. He was informed of this fact, not only by his visions, but also by time travelers who instructed him. He said that they were hiding in the corners of our living room... Phil said that they were very timid and expressed shock when they realized that he could see them." --Tessa Dick


I'll have whatever Phil has been smokin', please. big grin

Den

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

whatever you do, skip his last book THE TRANSMIGRATION OF TIMOTHY ARCHER (iirc)
its a polemic, NOT a novel
bruce

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 8:11 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

"Phil theorized that we were actually living in ancient Rome... The world of 1974 was an illusion, and no real time had passed in almost two thousand years. The modern world was simply overlaid, resting on top of ancient Rome. The Empire never ended. He was informed of this fact, not only by his visions, but also by time travelers who instructed him. He said that they were hiding in the corners of our living room... Phil said that they were very timid and expressed shock when they realized that he could see them." --Tessa Dick


I'll have whatever Phil has been smokin', please. big grin

Den


before you do........
please watch the film adaptation of A SCANNER DARKLY
the Robt Downey character is based on PDK himself!
true story
brm

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

before you do........
please watch the film adaptation of A SCANNER DARKLY
the Robt Downey character is based on PDK himself!
true story
brm


And it is for this reason that RDJ has given the best performance in a PKD adaptation. It's a fine example of taking a role and making it your own and Downey, Jr. knew exactly how to play that role. I love that film (and it's strange soundtrack).

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Has anyone here read Dr. Bloodmoney? From my perspective, it is Dick's most underappreciated novel. It deals with an interesting post-nuclear apocalypse and is rather pessimistic but I thought very funny. The character arcs are similar to The Man in the High Castle, with an ensemble of protagonists which feed off one another's fears and prejudices inadvertently until the strange conclusion. I don't think this book is considered highly because it lacks a lot of the tech and underlying speculative fiction that occurs in most of his well-known works. Instead, this is a yarn about weirdos surviving in a world that is just about extinct. Regardless, I really recommend this to those who are interested in some of the stranger places Dick visits within his fiction.

VALIS (one of his funniest) and The Divine Invasion (his best combo of paranoia and spirituality) are also personal favorites.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

I'm watching "The Adjustment Bureau" and I kept thinking "I KNOW this story! How?"
Sure enough, years ago I had read Philip K. Dick's short story "The Adjustment Team." (Thanks to IMDB for answering that question)
Mike

BTW, here's the cover from the first paperback book of Dick's I ever read as a kid. Never forgot that one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

before you do........
please watch the film adaptation of A SCANNER DARKLY
the Robt Downey character is based on PDK himself!
true story
brm


And it is for this reason that RDJ has given the best performance in a PKD adaptation. It's a fine example of taking a role and making it your own and Downey, Jr. knew exactly how to play that role. I love that film (and it's strange soundtrack).


Its hard to believe now but
when ASD was released Keannu Reeves was top billed - he was by far the biggest star in the cast due to THE MATRIX. Downey was just a supporting player.


Stardom is a fickle master
bruce

ps if "Sherlock Holmes" was made 6 years ago, Jude Law would have been cast in the lead!

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Its hard to believe now but
when ASD was released Keannu Reeves was top billed - he was by far the biggest star in the cast due to THE MATRIX. Downey was just a supporting player.


Stardom is a fickle master
bruce

ps if "Sherlock Holmes" was made 6 years ago, Jude Law would have been cast in the lead!


Haha! This is all too-true and too-funny Bruce. I think Keanu was pretty serviceable in A Scanner Darkly though. It was one of those roles he can glide into and not make it too obvious his short-comings as an actor. Whenever the guy plays disaffected, stupid, and detached he soars! What a strange actor.

I love Jude Law as Dr. Watson. I wonder how his Holmes would've been?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Its hard to believe now but
when ASD was released Keannu Reeves was top billed - he was by far the biggest star in the cast due to THE MATRIX. Downey was just a supporting player.


Stardom is a fickle master
bruce

ps if "Sherlock Holmes" was made 6 years ago, Jude Law would have been cast in the lead!


Haha! This is all too-true and too-funny Bruce. I think Keanu was pretty serviceable in A Scanner Darkly though. It was one of those roles he can glide into and not make it too obvious his short-comings as an actor. Whenever the guy plays disaffected, stupid, and detached he soars! What a strange actor.

I love Jude Law as Dr. Watson. I wonder how his Holmes would've been?


My comments were not intended to disparage Reeves (and you are correct, he was very good in the film).
More to the point, is the remarkable change in fortune for Downey who was a down and almost out actor not that long ago!
brm

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Its hard to believe now but
when ASD was released Keannu Reeves was top billed - he was by far the biggest star in the cast due to THE MATRIX. Downey was just a supporting player.


I love Jude Law as Dr. Watson. I wonder how his Holmes would've been?


well, he sure LOOKS alot more like Holmes than RDJr.!

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2011 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I love Jude Law as Dr. Watson. I wonder how his Holmes would've been?

well, he sure LOOKS alot more like Holmes than RDJr.!

I guess so. I know most around here ain't fans, but I enjoyed the flick for the fun adventure it was. Not a masterpiece -- and certainly not the best cinematic Holmes -- but it was well-detailed, well-directed, acted respectfully, and did more with music than most mainstream fare these days. Course, if you ain't a Zimm-ah fan, you ain't gonna agree. razz

On the subject of Doyle's creation, I'd kill to see Daniel Day Lewis and Ray Winstone as Holmes and Watson, respectively.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2012 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

I am currently reading TIME OUT OF JOINT, and it just might displace DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP? as my favorite PKD novel. I re-read DIVINE INVASIONS (PKD bio) and read MARTIAN TIME-SLIP recently, and it's interesting to read this book knowing PKD really struggled to be a contemporary/mainstream novelist. TIME begins in a 1950's suburb that wouldn't be out of place in a John Updike short story, though it goes in different directions after the situation is established, so it's a kind of working-out of Dick's interest in that kind of fiction.

I run hot and cold on his novels, some of which are very slipshod or just weird without being in any way rich enough to justify all the weirdness. When I finally read his much-praised VALIS, I was tremendously disappointed. It seemed like a long rant, straight out of his Exegesis ramblings, and not a well-structured novel.

I think his short stories are often ignored, but probably my favorite of his writing is "Frozen Journey" which creates a typical PKD situation, brings it to its logical conclusion, and gets out.

 
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