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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Sainton's Moby Dick     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 6:58 AM     By:   DaveJ   (Member) I recently saw the film on one of the satellite channels I received and was instantly impressed by the score that I heard. Ashamedly I had never watched Moby Dick before nor had I heard anything about Phillip Sainton's work. I have recently been looking around for the score and I see that it is available as a re-recording by Bill Stromberg and John Morgan which I know are excellent in quality. The only thing is I am not sure if I order this whether it will be a CD-r or not, I have previously encountered this when I ordered Herrmann's Garden of Evil from Amazon.    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 7:05 AM     By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member) Mine is a regular pressing, but my copy is from a European dealer. Maybe Amazon makes CD-R upon order? Some companies, like Nimbus and Lyrita are now selling CD-Rs only, without telling consumers. It's not a good trend. You may just as well find a source for a lossless download, like this one: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=MP%205050 Also, you might want to check out this twofer with some of Sainton's (as well as Patrick Hadley's) orchestral works: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=CHAN%20241-22M The Island, especially, is very close in style to Moby Dick. Lovely music!    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 7:18 AM     By:   DaveJ   (Member) Many thanks for the links, I will look into it. You're right about alot of places selling CD-r's though and I think it should be only right to tell people what they are buying like SAE do. I have been put off buying Korngold's 'Adventures of Robin Hood' because I am doubtful whether it is an original or a made to order CD-r.    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 8:12 AM     By:   Gunnar   (Member) On Amazon.com's page, they explicitly state that this will be a CD-R, while this note is missing from the UK and German version. Not sure what to make of that, but good luck with getting this music in one form or another - it deserves to be listened to by many people!    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 11:16 AM     By:   .   (Member) Clips of all the tracks, cover artwork and lossless download are available here: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=MP%205050 Robin Hood too, with pdf booklet: http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=MP%205268    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 2:09 PM     By:   DaveJ   (Member) Many thanks once again for the links    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 7:37 PM     By:   dan the man   (Member) Now there is a great underrated score, Was it Sainton's only film score?, the reference book i got the info from, states it was and the composer died in 1967?Anyone know of another score from him?    Posted:   May 15, 2012 - 9:57 PM     By:   Zoragoth   (Member) Now there is a great underrated score, Was it Sainton's only film score?, the reference book i got the info from, states it was and the composer died in 1967?Anyone know of another score from him? From my recollection of the original CD liner notes, Sainton, an unlikely choice to begin with for such a high profile project, was eager to score more films but sadly and inexplicably received no further offers. One can, however, savor a few choice morsels of Sainton's classical works, including the evocative tone poem THE ISLAND: http://www.amazon.com/Matthias-Bamert-Conducts-Patrick-Sainton/dp/B0007ZEBYO/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337140550&sr=1-2    Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 2:30 AM     By:   Guenther K   (Member) From my recollection of the original CD liner notes, Sainton, an unlikely choice to begin with for such a high profile project, was eager to score more films but sadly and inexplicably received no further offers. Well, Chaplin hired him for "A King in New York", but they fell out over it. Sainton was very ill in his last years, so that's the likely reason    Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 8:35 AM     By:   sdtom   (Member) http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/the-islandphilip-sainton/ There is a concert suite "The Moby Dick Suite" that was never released. For the most part he is a forgotten man. Tom    Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 8:42 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) The LP of music from the motion picture on RCA #LPM-1247 has been OOP for sometime and the concert suite Philip wrote has never been released. I wonder just what the writer meant here. That the score was never made available by the estate? Or never published? In any case, I assume the music has not been performed or recorded.    Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 9:24 AM     By:   DaveJ   (Member) Just listened to 'The Island' as recommended, it is a superb piece of music. It's a great shame that Sainton didn't get the chance to write more film scores he certainly had the ability, judging by his this theme and by his expressive Moby Dick score.    Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 9:56 AM     By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member) With all due respect to Mr. Sainton -- I'm sure he was an able musician and composer -- the score for MOBY DICK has never established much of an identity for me. I've owned the OST LP as well as the Morgan/Stromberg re-recording of it, I've listened to it any number of times in both formats, and I've really tried to find something there to love. It's like a pleasant breeze on a summer's day, nice enough when it's playing but there's nothing left behind. At this moment I can't remember a single note of it, just a blast of brass here and there and a few birds chirping in the distance...    Posted:   Jan 21, 2016 - 6:37 PM     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member) I could not make heads nor tails out of the cd. Then I saw the film. It all fell into place. This really is like the score of an opera. Now I think I can understand it. Thanks to the enterprising souls who worked to re-record it!    Posted:   Jan 21, 2016 - 6:53 PM     By:   JEC   (Member) I love the Morgan/Stromberg redo. I was disappointed that RCA Spain did not reissue this (and "Long John Silver").    Posted:   Jan 21, 2016 - 7:53 PM     By:   Howard L   (Member) This one used to air all the time when I was a youngster and I can honestly add its score to the list of those that made me the film music fan that I am. I think it was the St. Elmo's Fire scene that hit me the most, and "Elijah" (ah, the great Royal Dano), but have never forgotten, too, when they were shoving off and the scoring went from excitement to stark sobriety as the camera moved a couple times from the exuberant, enthralled voyagers on ship to the anxious, fearful relatives on pier. Especially the faces of the aged women. Wonderful piece of direction/editing that remains a lifelong image-with-music-only memory. Oh, and the M/S rerecording truly did the score justice.    Posted:   Jan 22, 2016 - 12:40 AM     By:   Zoragoth   (Member) This one used to air all the time when I was a youngster and I can honestly add its score to the list of those that made me the film music fan that I am. I think it was the St. Elmo's Fire scene that hit me the most, and "Elijah" (ah, the great Royal Dano), but have never forgotten, too, when they were shoving off and the scoring went from excitement to stark sobriety as the camera moved a couple times from the exuberant, enthralled voyagers on ship to the anxious, fearful relatives on pier. Especially the faces of the aged women. Wonderful piece of direction/editing that remains a lifelong image-with-music-only memory. Oh, and the M/S rerecording truly did the score justice. I love, love, love this score, and owe my knowledge and appreciation of it to Morgan/Stromberg. My favorite sequence? The very opening, playing under Richard Basehart's fine narration of "Call me Ishmael."    Posted:   Jan 22, 2016 - 10:04 AM     By:   Howard L   (Member) I know I read somewhere that Huston wanted to film it as if it were being filmed in 1840 and that's exactly how I think of the approach Sainton took. What an approach all 'round!    Posted:   Jan 22, 2016 - 2:44 PM     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member) My only grouch with the movie is hearing Huston's voice coming out of another actor's mouth.    Posted:   Jan 22, 2016 - 7:24 PM     By:   Howard L   (Member) Yeah kinda jarring like Mel Brooks' voice in Springtime for YouKnowWho.     General Discussion: Sainton's Moby Dick    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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