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 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 1:18 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

It is a great puzzle to me that this huge money maker -- a top box office champ for Paramount pictures and Cecil B. Demille -- has never been released on dvd officially anywhere..

I see that Olive films is releasing many Paramount films from this period so hopefully this might see a Blu-Ray release -- it has dazzling Technicolor photography that only BR could do justice to.. The 20 year old laserdisc had a seperate music+effects track which would be great to have on BR but does Olive do special features?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I'm sure I read a while back over at the hometheater forum that Paramount were working on it, I hope so, as you say a Blu should look stunning, & the film is a lot more fun than The Ten Commandments. And while we're talking C.B. & colourful kitsch, how about The Greatest Show On Earth. And (help, I can't stop!) C.B's Unconquered, the R1 Universal DVD looks great, I'd love it on Blu-ray.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

I'm sure I read a while back over at the hometheater forum that Paramount were working on it, I hope so, as you say a Blu should look stunning, & the film is a lot more fun than The Ten Commandments. And while we're talking C.B. & colourful kitsch, how about The Greatest Show On Earth. And (help, I can't stop!) C.B's Unconquered, the R1 Universal DVD looks great, I'd love it on Blu-ray.

Oh I would definitely welcome any other Technicolor DeMille epics on BR too -- TGSOE also would look spectacular and it is an Oscar winner for Best Picture!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

SAMSON AND DELILAH has been annouced for release by Paramount in March - no further details available yet.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

All I can say is ABOUT TIME! Even if the old Laser Disc had a music/effects track, I still want to retire it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

SAMSON AND DELILAH has been annouced for release by Paramount in March - no further details available yet.


Probably the remake with Paul Rudd and Lindsay Lohan. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

SAMSON AND DELILAH has been annouced for release by Paramount in March - no further details available yet.


Probably the remake with Paul Rudd and Lindsay Lohan. smile


Looking at hometheaterforum it looks like it's the 1949 version, there's some confusion as to if it's DVD only, but I fully expect Blu-ray.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Paramount Press Release





HOLLYWOOD, Calif. ? Legendary director Cecil B. DeMille?s epic masterpiece Samson and Delilah makes its long-awaited DVD debut on March 12, 2013 from Paramount Home Media Distribution.



Starring Victor Mature and Hedy Lamarr in the title roles, Samson and Delilah tells the story of the Bible?s fabled strongman and the woman who seduces and betrays him. The film brings to life Samson?s incredible feats, including his battle with a lion, his single-handed assault on a thousand Philistine soldiers, his struggle with a giant and finally the spectacular climax in which he pulls down the pagan temple. But it is Delilah?s quest for revenge and ability to bring down even the mighty Samson that drive this thrilling and powerful story. The lavish production earned five Academy Award® nominations and won for Best Art Direction and Best Costume Design. The film also stars venerable actors George Sanders, Angela Lansbury and Henry Wilcoxon.



Sometimes referred to as DeMille?s rehearsal for The Ten Commandments, Samson and Delilah was enormously popular around the world upon its release in 1949. Over 60 years later, the original film elements required significant work in order to return the film to the vibrant masterpiece that had so thrilled theater audiences. The original nitrate three-strip Technicolor negatives were scanned in 4K, and the three strip image was registered, cleaned and color corrected in 4K. In addition, DeMille?s original nitrate print was used in order to complete the original music overture and special effect work was done to clean up original optical images, a particularly tricky three-strip challenge. Finally, the original mono audio track was cleaned up and restored.



Interestingly, the restoration team noticed a shimmer effect in some of the scenes. Since they were simultaneously restoring Sunset Boulevard, they looked at production photos of Norma Desmond?s visit to the Samson and Delilah set and saw the enormously powerful lights that were required for the Technicolor production. This explained the shimmer effect, which was left intact. Arriving just in time for Easter, the Samson and Delilah DVD will be presented in full screen with English Mono Dolby Digital, French Mono Dolby Digital and Spanish Mono Dolby Digital, as well as English, French and Spanish subtitles.

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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Paramount Press Release





HOLLYWOOD, Calif. ? Legendary director Cecil B. DeMille?s epic masterpiece Samson and Delilah makes its long-awaited DVD debut on March 12, 2013 from Paramount Home Media Distribution.



Starring Victor Mature and Hedy Lamarr in the title roles, Samson and Delilah tells the story of the Bible?s fabled strongman and the woman who seduces and betrays him. The film brings to life Samson?s incredible feats, including his battle with a lion, his single-handed assault on a thousand Philistine soldiers, his struggle with a giant and finally the spectacular climax in which he pulls down the pagan temple. But it is Delilah?s quest for revenge and ability to bring down even the mighty Samson that drive this thrilling and powerful story. The lavish production earned five Academy Award® nominations and won for Best Art Direction and Best Costume Design. The film also stars venerable actors George Sanders, Angela Lansbury and Henry Wilcoxon.



Sometimes referred to as DeMille?s rehearsal for The Ten Commandments, Samson and Delilah was enormously popular around the world upon its release in 1949. Over 60 years later, the original film elements required significant work in order to return the film to the vibrant masterpiece that had so thrilled theater audiences. The original nitrate three-strip Technicolor negatives were scanned in 4K, and the three strip image was registered, cleaned and color corrected in 4K. In addition, DeMille?s original nitrate print was used in order to complete the original music overture and special effect work was done to clean up original optical images, a particularly tricky three-strip challenge. Finally, the original mono audio track was cleaned up and restored.



Interestingly, the restoration team noticed a shimmer effect in some of the scenes. Since they were simultaneously restoring Sunset Boulevard, they looked at production photos of Norma Desmond?s visit to the Samson and Delilah set and saw the enormously powerful lights that were required for the Technicolor production. This explained the shimmer effect, which was left intact. Arriving just in time for Easter, the Samson and Delilah DVD will be presented in full screen with English Mono Dolby Digital, French Mono Dolby Digital and Spanish Mono Dolby Digital, as well as English, French and Spanish subtitles.

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It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .


The DVD is good. The Blu-Ray is bad.

Sincerely,
Zardoz

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .


The DVD is good. The Blu-Ray is bad.

Sincerely,
Zardoz


Sorry -- I dont understand what you mean. Are you serious?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Interestingly, the restoration team noticed a shimmer effect in some of the scenes. Since they were simultaneously restoring Sunset Boulevard, they looked at production photos of Norma Desmond?s visit to the Samson and Delilah set and saw the enormously powerful lights that were required for the Technicolor production. This explained the shimmer effect, which was left intact.....


A Fabulous Restoration Team Fantasy! smile


While a single carbon-arc lighting unit might have a slight flicker if it were not trimmed correctly, and might cause a momentary flicker on a single-shot if not corrected at the
time of shooting, it would not cause a "shimmering" effect over a whole scene/sequence.

This "shimmering" theory of the restoration team would also imply that ALL of Paramount's Technicolor films of the period had a "shimmering effect" since they mostly all employed the same kind of heavy-duty arc lights on large-size sets, just for a proper exposure. We don't see that in other big Paramount Technicolor films of the period---from CONNECTICUT YANKEE and EMPEROR WALTZ to COPPER CANYON and LET'S DANCE.

I think the "shimmering effect" lies elsewhere---perhaps in the original development bath of one or more of the separation negatives, or in the camera shutter at a particular moment in time, or with the threading of one of the negatives through one of the 3 transports within the Technicolor camera.

It may also be in the black-and-white film stock. The stock that recorded the "blue" record around that time has had some problems at some studios. Pictures like SHOW BOAT and LILI at MGM, and others at various studios have a strange, blotchy blue-tinged effect that comes and goes in some sequences. The worst that I can remember is William Warfield's "Old Man River" sequence in SHOW BOAT. There is a deterioration of some sort in this color record that can't be fully corrected because it's so erratic, from cut-to-cut, angle-to-angle, and day-to-day---but they've been somewhat able to ameliorate the problem. It may actually be in one manufactured stock batch with the same batch number.

I remember doing some work at MGM in the mid-1970s and talking with someone in the engineering department about this problem. I was complaining about the effect in the then-new THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT release, and without prompting he said, "Oh, you mean the SHOW BOAT sequence.....yeah, we did what we could but couldn't get rid of the problem entirely."

One wonders why the Paramount restoration team didn't find an old Technicolor camera or lab technician somewhere around and have him look at the footage to see if he could come up with an alternate idea. They can't all be dead!



STILL.....it's good to think this spectacular film will be out on Blu-ray eventually in a restored version.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .


The DVD is good. The Blu-Ray is bad.

Sincerely,
Zardoz


Sorry -- I dont understand what you mean. Are you serious?



Very. Blu-rays dry out the skin and make it crack and peel and turn the skin
into a dull, gray crust. This is because they are made of dangerous chemicals.
DVDs are organic and natural and revitalize the skin, adding vital nutrients
to the pours and give the skin a youthful, healthy technicolor sheen.

Den



 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .


The DVD is good. The Blu-Ray is bad.

Sincerely,
Zardoz


Sorry -- I dont understand what you mean. Are you serious?



Very. Blu-rays dry out the skin and make it crack and peel and turn the skin
into a dull, gray crust. This is because they are made of dangerous chemicals.
DVDs are organic and natural and revitalize the skin, adding vital nutrients
to the pours and give the skin a youthful, healthy technicolor sheen.

Den




And VHS tapes are also particularly good to defoliate the skin. When turned on edge and rubbed rapidly over the calloused area, the old dead skin falls away magically. Super-VHS tapes are even better.

Laserdiscs are a good substitute for that bathroom mirror. When travelling, the laserdisc fits flat into its cardboard sleeve and can be packed into your bag easily. Unfortunately, these have been known to rot, and sometimes affect the clothing packed around them, particularly at the seams. People have been known to lose their pants, literally, when they fell apart as they were wearing them. The Image discs are particularly bad for this.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

And VHS tapes are also particularly good to defoliate the skin. When turned on edge and rubbed rapidly over the calloused area, the old dead skin falls away magically. Super-VHS tapes are even better.


Yes. And remember: only Parmalov dishwashing liquid can destroy the dangerous
blu-ray. That is why Parmalov is our friend. Oil of Olay is our friend, too, because
it is good for the DVD. Scrubbing Bubbles is neutral at this point because he
hasn't signed the treaty to defend us from the evil that is Blu-Ray.

Den

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

.....Interestingly, the restoration team noticed a shimmer effect in some of the scenes. Since they were simultaneously restoring Sunset Boulevard, they looked at production photos of Norma Desmond?s visit to the Samson and Delilah set and saw the enormously powerful lights that were required for the Technicolor production. This explained the shimmer effect, which was left intact.....


A Fabulous Restoration Team Fantasy! smile


While a single carbon-arc lighting unit might have a slight flicker if it were not trimmed correctly, and might cause a momentary flicker on a single-shot if not corrected at the
time of shooting, it would not cause a "shimmering" effect over a whole scene/sequence.

This "shimmering" theory of the restoration team would also imply that ALL of Paramount's Technicolor films of the period had a "shimmering effect" since they mostly all employed the same kind of heavy-duty arc lights on large-size sets, just for a proper exposure. We don't see that in other big Paramount Technicolor films of the period---from CONNECTICUT YANKEE and EMPEROR WALTZ to COPPER CANYON and LET'S DANCE.

I think the "shimmering effect" lies elsewhere---perhaps in the original development bath of one or more of the separation negatives, or in the camera shutter at a particular moment in time, or with the threading of one of the negatives through one of the 3 transports within the Technicolor camera.

It may also be in the black-and-white film stock. The stock that recorded the "blue" record around that time has had some problems at some studios. Pictures like SHOW BOAT and LILI at MGM, and others at various studios have a strange, blotchy blue-tinged effect that comes and goes in some sequences. The worst that I can remember is William Warfield's "Old Man River" sequence in SHOW BOAT. There is a deterioration of some sort in this color record that can't be fully corrected because it's so erratic, from cut-to-cut, angle-to-angle, and day-to-day---but they've been somewhat able to ameliorate the problem. It may actually be in one manufactured stock batch with the same batch number.

I remember doing some work at MGM in the mid-1970s and talking with someone in the engineering department about this problem. I was complaining about the effect in the then-new THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT release, and without prompting he said, "Oh, you mean the SHOW BOAT sequence.....yeah, we did what we could but couldn't get rid of the problem entirely."

One wonders why the Paramount restoration team didn't find an old Technicolor camera or lab technician somewhere around and have him look at the footage to see if he could come up with an alternate idea. They can't all be dead!



STILL.....it's good to think this spectacular film will be out on Blu-ray eventually in a restored version.


I wondered about that shimmer effect information from Paramount so thanks for the expert explanation , manderley.

I certainly hope that you are right about an eventual BR release - I think that much of S&D would look spectacular in high definition.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

I certainly hope that you are right about an eventual BR release - I think that much of S&D would look spectacular in high definition.


What makes you think that the DVD release won't be in high definition?

Den

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

It doesnt make any sense to restore this classic and not release it on BR .


The DVD is good. The Blu-Ray is bad.

Sincerely,
Zardoz


Sorry -- I dont understand what you mean. Are you serious?



Very. Blu-rays dry out the skin and make it crack and peel and turn the skin
into a dull, gray crust. This is because they are made of dangerous chemicals.
DVDs are organic and natural and revitalize the skin, adding vital nutrients
to the pours and give the skin a youthful, healthy technicolor sheen.

Den




And VHS tapes are also particularly good to defoliate the skin. When turned on edge and rubbed rapidly over the calloused area, the old dead skin falls away magically. Super-VHS tapes are even better.

Laserdiscs are a good substitute for that bathroom mirror. When travelling, the laserdisc fits flat into its cardboard sleeve and can be packed into your bag easily. Unfortunately, these have been known to rot, and sometimes affect the clothing packed around them, particularly at the seams. People have been known to lose their pants, literally, when they fell apart as they were wearing them. The Image discs are particularly bad for this.


big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

I certainly hope that you are right about an eventual BR release - I think that much of S&D would look spectacular in high definition.


What makes you think that the DVD release won't be in high definition?

Den


A DVD does not have high definition resolution.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2012 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

A DVD does not have high definition resolution.

Then why do the studios bother to release films
remastered in high definition on DVD?

And why would electronics manufacturers bother
producing "upscale-to-high-definition" DVD players?

Den

 
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