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 Posted:   Oct 18, 2013 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

So which came first? There is a fair amount of Howard Blakes' score on the commercially released soundtrack album by Queen. As in the film some cues are presented outright while others appear mixed into the Queen material. Nearly all of the queen material is featured in Blakes score in some shape or form. So who originally came up with the themes. I've enjoyed the heck out of this score since picking up the Super Tracks release.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2013 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

So which came first? There is a fair amount of Howard Blakes' score on the commercially released soundtrack album by Queen. As in the film some cues are presented outright while others appear mixed into the Queen material. Nearly all of the queen material is featured in Blakes score in some shape or form. So who originally came up with the themes. I've enjoyed the heck out of this score since picking up the Super Tracks release.

QUEEN was on the project first and Howard was called in late in the production to provide the score which used QUEEN's themes.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2013 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

A release featuring Blakes' score and all of the Queen cuts would be most welcome.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2013 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

AMEN.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2013 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

QUEEN was on the project first and Howard was called in late in the production to provide the score which used QUEEN's themes.

Ford A. Thaxton


The more complete story is that Queen was hired to score the film, and, having never done a film before, couldn't figure-out what to do.

Blake was then called-in to write a score, incorporating some of thematic material Queen submitted. Blake wrote the score over a near-sleepless two weeks -- without an orchestrator -- and also conducted the session. (Then he collapsed from exhaustion -- his wife was out of town while he was working on the score, and when she returned could not revive him and called an ambulance. He might well have died had she not found him in time.)

After Queen heard his score, they suddenly realized how a film score is supposed to work with the picture. So they provided several cues for the film -- replacing Blake's cues, much to the chagrin of the composer, who almost literally killed himself to get the job done.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2014 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   billyearle   (Member)

Thanks beach bum. Is there anywhere online one could find even more detailed info as to which themes & material are Queen's and which Blake's. At least I think I have a rough idea which themes are almost certainly Queen's, but I still wonder what could be Blakes "original" material. I feel like the track credits on the soundtrack LP might be unfairly giving too much exclusive credit to the band members, but it could be correct.
FWIW, I'm in the camp that loves both the Blake score and the Queen album, sound effects & all, but would love to see some kind of expanded dialogue-free release as well.
More of interest to Queen fans than Blake fans, but for completists I could recommend the 2011 2CD Queen 40th anniversary edition which has the 2011 remaster of the LP on one disc and a short seperate disc of altnernate takes and a couple of concert tracks. It isn't awesome, but worth getting IMO. It was initially released as a Japanese ltd ed SHM-CD, but a regular version may be available. I even hung on to the 1991 CD for the cheezy but enjoyable remix track.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2014 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

QUEEN was on the project first and Howard was called in late in the production to provide the score which used QUEEN's themes.

Ford A. Thaxton


The more complete story is that Queen was hired to score the film, and, having never done a film before, couldn't figure-out what to do.

Blake was then called-in to write a score, incorporating some of thematic material Queen submitted. Blake wrote the score over a near-sleepless two weeks -- without an orchestrator -- and also conducted the session. (Then he collapsed from exhaustion -- his wife was out of town while he was working on the score, and when she returned could not revive him and called an ambulance. He might well have died had she not found him in time.)

After Queen heard his score, they suddenly realized how a film score is supposed to work with the picture. So they provided several cues for the film -- replacing Blake's cues, much to the chagrin of the composer, who almost literally killed himself to get the job done.


Ah, that explains why there's so much overlapping material

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2014 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

DP

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Na, I think there was more to it than that. You wouldn't expect a pop group to write all the music & a composer was hired to write the other stuff, but when they got to the recording studio, it was found that he'd hardly written anything, & so Howard Blake was hired, & had to write a load of music in no time at all. I know who the other composer was, but I won't name him, he has more of a pop background that a soundtrack one.

This is the FSM site, so someone is bound to know the full story.

A release of all the music without the dialogue would be nice.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Thanks beach bum. Is there anywhere online one could find even more detailed info as to which themes & material are Queen's and which Blake's. At least I think I have a rough idea which themes are almost certainly Queen's, but I still wonder what could be Blakes "original" material. I feel like the track credits on the soundtrack LP might be unfairly giving too much exclusive credit to the band members, but it could be correct.
FWIW, I'm in the camp that loves both the Blake score and the Queen album, sound effects & all, but would love to see some kind of expanded dialogue-free release as well.
More of interest to Queen fans than Blake fans, but for completists I could recommend the 2011 2CD Queen 40th anniversary edition which has the 2011 remaster of the LP on one disc and a short seperate disc of altnernate takes and a couple of concert tracks. It isn't awesome, but worth getting IMO. It was initially released as a Japanese ltd ed SHM-CD, but a regular version may be available. I even hung on to the 1991 CD for the cheezy but enjoyable remix track.


Looks like the 2011 version with bonus tracks is available by itself. http://amzn.to/1opQ3Wt

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Cesare   (Member)

I own the CD ny Queen and also this CD produced by Blake, which has some interesting cues:

http://www.howardblake.com/records.php?id=23

but I'd love a Cd with all cues written by Blake and Queen...

Cesare

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2014 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I thought I read an interview with Blake naming Paul Buckmaster…?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2014 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I thought I read an interview with Blake naming Paul Buckmaster…?

Yes, that's who I thought it was. I think I read it in a post here many years ago.

 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

FWIW, I'm in the camp that loves both the Blake score and the Queen album, sound effects & all, but would love to see some kind of expanded dialogue-free release as well.

My close friend, Patrick Lemieux, author of the excellent The Queen Chronology, has noted several times in my discussions with him, that Queen guitarist and de facto leader these days, Brian May, does not seem interested in releasing the music without dialogue. Queen fans on the band's official message board have tried to persuade him but with no luck.

Fans both of the band and of the film want this (I know I certainly do!), but it may (heh, "May" get it?) never see the light of day. (Hey, that rhymes.) Sucks, 'cause as much as the dialogue-heavy album is a fave of mine, I'd still like this music on its own. As pointed out, the Howard Blake promo is wonderful, but an integrated album would be fantastic.

 
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