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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



Well said. But don't judge him too harshly, he can't help himself when it comes to Goldsmith (or to a lesser extent MR or BH).


I'm guessing that you're referring to someone with the initials R M E (who has been on ignore for years). That man has been the classic internet bully / troll here for a very long time. No morals, no respect, but he's given free reign to insult people and post hateful remarks about composers (and their fans) because he's been a "loyal customer" to FSM and Intrada. Being tasteless, mean and disrespectful is indeed something he "can't help himself" with indeed.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)


An experienced pilot, no reported mechnical problems, no radio traffic, witnesses see the plane fly straight and normal, then suddenly, over the hill, crash? It sounds like he blacked out, had a heart attack or seizure or something. It makes me think a little of Tony Scott, although I would rather not.


Actually, this was how JFK Jr died. He lost sight of the horizon and suffered from an aviation term I forgot where the pilot forgets which way is "up" visually and doesn't check his instrument panel to confirm. In this case, the sky was reflected on Long Island Sound, so he pulled "up" into the harbor...

Your limited amplitude is your problem not mine. No one with erudite music knowledge would ever place JH over JG, MR, or BH and a host of other great composers. However, I do understand how He could be your "favorite".

You certainly have an intelligence problem.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

In fact, I have dedicated much of my life to studying his work. He had a near-perfect combination of technical skill and emotional expression.

And this made him one of the best, if not best, *film* composer. Perhaps not the best *composer*, but best *film* composer. Beating Goldsmith and Herrmann and arguably Rósza (and Delerue).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

In fact, I have dedicated much of my life to studying his work. He had a near-perfect combination of technical skill and emotional expression.

And this made him one of the best, if not best, *film* composer. Perhaps not the best *composer*, but best *film* composer. Beating Goldsmith and Herrmann and arguably Rósza (and Delerue).


Good gosh, hyperbole much. This often happens when some public figure dies, looking on everything with so much overstatement. Horner made some good scores, but to say he is a better film composer than those you mentioned is totally hysterical. Horner made large number of scores that were reguritations, and not very inspired.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That's in the eye of the beholder, isn't it?

For many of us, Horner equalled most greats from the past.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

arrgh

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)



Well said. But don't judge him too harshly, he can't help himself when it comes to Goldsmith (or to a lesser extent MR or BH).


I'm guessing that you're referring to someone with the initials R M E (who has been on ignore for years). That man has been the classic internet bully / troll here for a very long time. No morals, no respect, but he's given free reign to insult people and post hateful remarks about composers (and their fans) because he's been a "loyal customer" to FSM and Intrada. Being tasteless, mean and disrespectful is indeed something he "can't help himself" with indeed.


Indeed I was...

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I have practically the same amount of scores from JG, JW and JH. All three are/were tremendously talented. No need to get into a pissing match over "who's better".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

In fact, I have dedicated much of my life to studying his work. He had a near-perfect combination of technical skill and emotional expression.

And this made him one of the best, if not best, *film* composer. Perhaps not the best *composer*, but best *film* composer. Beating Goldsmith and Herrmann and arguably Rósza (and Delerue).


Good gosh, hyperbole much. This often happens when some public figure dies, looking on everything with so much overstatement. Horner made some good scores, but to say he is a better film composer than those you mentioned is totally hysterical. Horner made large number of scores that were reguritations, and not very inspired.


Let's keep this thread solely about Mr. Horner. Let's not have the discussion (again..) about who is or was the best composer...please! I know I'm gonna miss him terribly.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Luigi   (Member)

Yesterday I was listening to RED HEAT and remembering James Horner.
The powerful action synth score for this film made me feel good smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

If you wanna get into that old 'who's better/plagiarism' chestnut, please open or revisit another thread and post your thoughts there.
To do it in a RIP thread shows a complete lack of class on your behalf.
I think we're better than this...aren't we?

NP Katra Ritual (just incredible, soulful, cathartic!!)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2015 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Yesterday I was listening to RED HEAT and remembering James Horner.
The powerful action synth score for this film made me feel good smile


Several years ago I attended a conference where there was a workshop on film music. One of the other participants talked about being at the recording sessions for Red Heat. Apparently when they recorded the lengthy final cue (I believe it was the final scene and then led into the end credits music) the director thought it was good but felt like it needed a bit more punch. So while the musicians and technicians broke for lunch Horner sat down with the score sheets and started making adjustments. An hour later they were ready to record what essentially was a completely new arrangement of the piece with a more energetic sound. Assuming this story is true (and I have no reason to believe it isn't), it's a tribute to Horner's talent and an indication of the incredibly difficult circumstances under which film composers work.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   music4film   (Member)

In fact, I have dedicated much of my life to studying his work. He had a near-perfect combination of technical skill and emotional expression.

And this made him one of the best, if not best, *film* composer. Perhaps not the best *composer*, but best *film* composer. Beating Goldsmith and Herrmann and arguably Rósza (and Delerue).


Good gosh, hyperbole much. This often happens when some public figure dies, looking on everything with so much overstatement. Horner made some good scores, but to say he is a better film composer than those you mentioned is totally hysterical. Horner made large number of scores that were reguritations, and not very inspired.


Actually, the fact that you parade your poorly-informed opinion around as fact is what's hysterical.

Ignorance at its finest.

James Horner is certainly greater than any of those above composers in my book, and I've maintained that position well before his death.

As a music composer, educator, and researcher, I will continue to hold this opinion, despite the fact that internet trolls like yourself come into these threads beating their chests and proclaiming that their opinion is the right one, and in the process, making complete fools out of themselves.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

By: Luc Van der Eeken


Grow up, your ignorance is beneath contempt.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

By: Luc Van der Eeken


Grow up, your ignorance is beneath contempt.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

James Horner is certainly greater than any of those above composers in my book, and I've maintained that position well before his death.

Irrespective of the composer(s) involved, does this make your opinions fact and everybody else's opinion merely opinions?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   music4film   (Member)

James Horner is certainly greater than any of those above composers in my book, and I've maintained that position well before his death.

Irrespective of the composer(s) involved, does this make your opinions fact and everybody else's opinion merely opinions?


Nope, and if you would've continued to read my entire post, you would see that I referred to this as my "opinion" in the next paragraph. My exact point is that opinions are merely that - opinions.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2015 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

What a relief! For a second there one could have reasonably thought that some opinions were more important than others.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

By: Luc Van der Eeken


Grow up, your ignorance is beneath contempt.


I like you too, you grouchy rascal!

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2015 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

We say 'Rest in Peace' in the Vocative case, as though, figuratively, the deceased can hear our well-wishes.

In which case a composer would need to bring his studio earmuffs for this one, if he could really hear all this.


It's the wrong time for all this. JH was the object of a terrible tragedy, is that not enough?


When you say 'nil nisi bonum', you're not being a hypocrite: you're acknowledging a higher plane of consciousness and extra dimensions where all is hopefully well resolved. This is for another time, for the musicologist analysts.

 
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