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 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   John Schuermann   (Member)

Price is not concern here - the 60 extra minutes are

Sure, you pony up the money to cover all of the costs for adding the 60 extra minutes then, price not being a concern (for you anyhow). Then others who couldn't care less get the benefit of your selfless good Samaritan deed, and you get to stand back and reap the good feeling that results from spreading the results of your altruism around the world.

Or perhaps you might see why ultimately it's a business decision after you eventually go bankrupt filling the remainder of a CD with extra digital bits that have exactly zero impact on how many CDs actually get pressed.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Okay, so we have Thor to tell us how thirty mintues is all we need, then we have Marcato to tell the labels how they don't know what they are doing, then after it's released we have what's-his-name with the cartoon character with the hockey mask and blinking eyes to complain about how it's another badly mixed CD and they don't know what they are doing.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Well, there you have it, Marcato.
The price of thinking out loud that you'd like to have full CD's is the wrath of the resident contrarians. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Price is not concern here - the 60 extra minutes are

Sure, you pony up the money to cover all of the costs for adding the 60 extra minutes then, price not being a concern (for you anyhow). Then others who couldn't care less get the benefit of your selfless good Samaritan deed, and you get to stand back and reap the good feeling that results from spreading the results of your altruism around the world.

Or perhaps you might see why ultimately it's a business decision after you eventually go bankrupt filling the remainder of a CD with extra digital bits that have exactly zero impact on how many CDs actually get pressed.



Becaurse it will be a complete mess if they included the original album on the second disc wink - or at least 1st take of all cues that apperered on the original album wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   John Schuermann   (Member)

Price is not concern here - the 60 extra minutes are

Sure, you pony up the money to cover all of the costs for adding the 60 extra minutes then, price not being a concern (for you anyhow). Then others who couldn't care less get the benefit of your selfless good Samaritan deed, and you get to stand back and reap the good feeling that results from spreading the results of your altruism around the world.

Or perhaps you might see why ultimately it's a business decision after you eventually go bankrupt filling the remainder of a CD with extra digital bits that have exactly zero impact on how many CDs actually get pressed.



Becaurse it will be a complete mess if they included the original album on the second disc wink - or at least 1st take of all cues that apperered on the original album wink


Hey, if it adds no extra cost for the labels themselves, I'm all with you. But what you are asking for takes up time and money, money that is *probably* better spent releasing a greater number of scores overall. It's not like these labels are rolling in cash. From my understanding of how well movie scores sell and what the labels net out at the end of the day, it seems almost like charity work on our behalf. I'm grateful for what we get, and if it makes sense financially for the labels to do what you ask, I'm totally on your side. But I really don't think our friends at LaLaLand, Intrada and others are getting rich off of catering to this very niche market.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hhell no - a CD2 with only 30 minuttes seems like a complete waste og natural resourses material

This is a bizarre opinion to hold. You're talking about it as if it's a mere commodity, like a carton of milk or whatever. I was always under the assumption that it's the musical experience that mattered. A CD can be 30 minutes or 80 minutes, and hold equal value depending on the nature and presentation of the music. A musical work doesn't get better because there's MORE of it, nor does a piece of fine art get better because it has a bigger canvas or a film get better because it's long.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Just buy downloads and be done with plastic altogether, if the environment is your concern. (Not to mention the environmental costs of shipping.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

If he was really concerned about the environment, he'd be pushing to eliminate film scores altogether (if somebody "serious" "REALLY" thought about it).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

If he was really concerned about the environment, he'd be pushing to eliminate film scores altogether (if somebody "serious" "REALLY" thought about it).


You canno be everywhere so that’s a lazy point

But your suggestion Can be your fight for enviroment - then i’ll fight for not Wasting space on CD’s

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

The disgusting, unsatisfying and narcissistic gluttony from several posters in this thread would've made a good extra 15 minutes in David Fincher's Seven.


And which one would you be?


R Lee Ermey, of course.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

The real wonder here is that Marcato received any responses at all. He is deserving of none.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The real wonder here is that Marcato received any responses at all. He is deserving of none.


And yet you did.
Too funny!

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Don't feed the.. oh never mind, to late.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2020 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

Don't feed the...

Dinosaur?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnun8y7r8_U

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2020 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

My guess is he said it before and he'll say it again.

Dats funnee.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2020 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

come on - i'll gladly pay that extra price for that ekstra music

If it's really true, you can produce the CD you want, with everything you want, the way you want, for your own personal satisfaction.

You can also start a Kickstarter campaign if you think that other people can be interested in a special "Marcato" edition.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2020 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

MV, Roger, others, should be thanked and praised!


Hear, hear. I've been collecting film music since the mid-1970s. The CD Era has brought such an avalanche of grails, nobody in the old days would believe it. Look at what we have!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2020 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

come on - i'll gladly pay that extra price for that ekstra music

If it's really true, you can produce the CD you want, with everything you want, the way you want, for your own personal satisfaction.

You can also start a Kickstarter campaign if you think that other people can be interested in a special "Marcato" edition.


How about a Greta Thunberg edition

How Will you help the world?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2020 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

come on - i'll gladly pay that extra price for that ekstra music

If it's really true, you can produce the CD you want, with everything you want, the way you want, for your own personal satisfaction.

You can also start a Kickstarter campaign if you think that other people can be interested in a special "Marcato" edition.


How about a Greta Thunberg edition

How Will you help the world?


With digital downloads whenever I can instead of physical CDs.

I hope someday all will be available as digital downloads, which would be better for the world.

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2020 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


and a 3o minute score from 1' generations could indclude 1st take as a second album option just to make use of the extra space


That's just rubbish... the length of a CD is just a physical limitation. That means there is a maximum of music that can be packed onto it, and if you need more "container space", you need a second CD.

If on a CD is 30 minutes, or 40 minutes, or 79 minutes just depends on whatever music it is you are selling. The physical audio CD itself is not really important (and pretty much a technology that's in phase out mode anyway).

To demand that the music sold on a CD should always fill the maximum capacity of an audio CD is like saying any movie should always be three hours long because that's how much HD video content can fit on a Blu-ray. That's just ridiculous.

High-Fidelity Audio Blu-rays can hold more than seven hours, yet if I buy a recording of Beethoven's Violin Concerto conducted by Kurt Masur and performed by Anne-Sophie Mutter on pure audio Blu-ray, I get about an hour of music. And I pay for about an hour of music. Would be silly to demand the remaining six hours+ to be filled with up of lots of other (more or less unrelated) stuff if I just want that one recording (and only pay for that one recording).

 
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