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 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Scotty Boy   (Member)

Yeah, but does it have the Shawn Cassidy song?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I think LLL forgot to remove the references to Sony Music from their order page and environmental artwork for the vinyl edition

https://lalalandrecords.com/star-trek-the-motion-picture-limited-edition-2xlp/

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Thanks for the details Mike - and that reveal about Sony is shocking!

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

...and as far as I'm concerned it is the album that we had wanted to do in 2000, but of course with far superior audio quality that benefited from the involvement of Bruce Botnick and the first generation multi-track transfers, which were run in anticipation of the updated "Director's Edition" that's currently in the works. The 3-CD set is a glorious collectors item to be treasured, but this 2-CD version will now be THE soundtrack album, from Paramount, for Star Trek-The Motion Picture.

Mike M.


So what you're saying is... "hand over the cash, little man!" big grin

In which I will reply, "Here ya go."

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

The 3-CD set is a glorious collectors item to be treasured, but this 2-CD version will now be THE soundtrack album, from Paramount, for Star Trek-The Motion Picture.

Mike M.


Wow, thanks Mike for the background summary, I remember back in the day Usenet rumors of Sony having to withdraw the Star Trek - The Motion Picture release. It was still a good release in its day. Of course, the LLL 3CD set is one of the all time great definitive film score releases, a treasure to have. I'm glad to see the "main program" now back in print. This score should always be in print.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Fascinating behind the scenes info Mike -- thanks for sharing!

So does Sony still maintain album rights to Star Trek V? wink

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

There's a 50th anniversary set for a movie that's 43 years old?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

There's a 50th anniversary set for a movie that's 43 years old?


He's talking about this: https://lalalandrecords.com/star-trek-50th-anniversary-collection-musical-rarities-from-across-the-star-trek-universe-limited-edtion-4-cd-set/

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

MV's aware of this so I'm certain it will be.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

So is this 2CD release an upgrade of the master from the 2011-12 3CD release or just a pruning of that release?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)

I remember soaking up that Sony release for all the new material it contained (incorrect material as it now turns out) and felt (as many did) that the addition of a second disc of "Inside Star Trek" did not fulfill our desire for bonus content.

Our hopes for the perfect release of STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE was finally brought about by La-La Land in the 3-Disc set - and now they are correcting decades-old miscarriages of film music justice with a 2-Disc set we should've gotten way back in the 90's.

Also, of course, it's wonderful to see one of the all-time great scores back in the catalogue to dazzle new fans.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

There's a 50th anniversary set for a movie that's 43 years old?


He's talking about this: https://lalalandrecords.com/star-trek-50th-anniversary-collection-musical-rarities-from-across-the-star-trek-universe-limited-edtion-4-cd-set/


Ah, yes, thanks. That release went by totally below my radar.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

If this is now the "defintive" edition, does it include "Inner Workings" with wind machine, as presented on the 50th anniversary set?

MV's aware of this so I'm certain it will be.


Wasn't it a deliberate choice (per what Goldsmith would have preferred) to go with the version that's on the 3 CD set? I would also think that the film version of ending of The Meld will be left off of this set as well.

I guess it all depends on what's going to be included on that 2nd CD.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Manakin Skywalker   (Member)

What I'm trying to figure out (and other people are asking), are there new sources being utilized, or any improvement in sound quality? Or is this basically the older masters restructured? This set looks to be a great addition for anyone who hasn't gotten the original 3-disc expansion, but would there be any reason for someone like me, who already has the previous expansion, to also invest in this set as well?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

What I'm trying to figure out (and other people are asking), are there new sources being utilized, or any improvement in sound quality? Or is this basically the older masters restructured? This set looks to be a great addition for anyone who hasn't gotten the original 3-disc expansion, but would there be any reason for someone like me, who already has the previous expansion, to also invest in this set as well?

"What it requires of its god, Doctor, is the answer to its question, 'Is there nothing more?'"

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

"inner Workings" is the updated version, of course. I don't see this as a "pruned" release, but rather as the new official soundtrack, with a previous version containing numerous tracks geared toward collectors. It shouldn't be hard to figure out what those are.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

"inner Workings" is the updated version, of course. I don't see this as a "pruned" release, but rather as the new official soundtrack, with a previous version containing numerous tracks geared toward collectors. It shouldn't be hard to figure out what those are.

So happy to be proven wrong! You know, every time I say I won't double (triple, quadruple) dip you manage to convince me otherwise.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   richsto   (Member)

"inner Workings" is the updated version, of course. I don't see this as a "pruned" release, but rather as the new official soundtrack, with a previous version containing numerous tracks geared toward collectors. It shouldn't be hard to figure out what those are.

Same masters used or are these from different or new multi-trak masters used for the forthcoming 4K UHD release? Just trying to understand if this new 2 disc has any potential sound quality differences over the 3-disc version.

Thanks so much for your dedication to these projects and for posting this information here!!!

Rich

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2022 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

"inner Workings" is the updated version, of course. I don't see this as a "pruned" release, but rather as the new official soundtrack, with a previous version containing numerous tracks geared toward collectors. It shouldn't be hard to figure out what those are.

Same masters used or are these from different or new multi-trak masters used for the forthcoming 4K UHD release? Just trying to understand if this new 2 disc has any potential sound quality differences over the 3-disc version.

Thanks so much for your dedication to these projects and for posting this information here!!!

Rich


The multi-track transfers in 2011 for 2012 LLL release were done in expectation of Director's Edition happening shortly after. We didn't think it would be a 10 year wait, but the material sat around ready to go and Atmos fortuitously came on the scene in the interim. For the soundtrack, the mixes are the same as last time, but it was an opportunity to fix anything remaining that was at all bothersome to my ear. Upgrades are esoteric in character and likely wouldn't be noticeable on an average listen. But there is one distinction about the new edition to note when the release info is posted by La-La Land next week. We should leave it there and each person can make a decision then.

 
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