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I would also check out his library tracks
tempo sospeso is a real gem up there with the best, the main track is a great mixture in the vain of violent city and the sicilien clan and kicks big time
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tempo sospeso is a real gem up there with the best, the main track is a great mixture in the vain of violent city and the sicilien clan and kicks big time
Nicolai reused at least three tracks from his "Tempo sospeso" library album - namely Oblio, Movimento and Primitivo - about 5 years later for the CALIGULA score in 1980 which he signed with the pseudonym Paul Clemente. The tracks can be found on the CALIGULA LP.
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tempo sospeso is a real gem up there with the best, the main track is a great mixture in the vain of violent city and the sicilien clan and kicks big time
Nicolai reused at least three tracks from his "Tempo sospeso" library album - namely Oblio, Movimento and Primitivo - about 5 years later for the CALIGULA score in 1980 which he signed with the pseudonym Paul Clemente. The tracks can be found on the CALIGULA LP.
the one I have has a second 12 inch single with it foldout is that the one ? Not played it in years must dig it out if it is,
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Nicolai reused at least three tracks from his "Tempo sospeso" library album - namely Oblio, Movimento and Primitivo - about 5 years later for the CALIGULA score in 1980 which he signed with the pseudonym Paul Clemente. The tracks can be found on the CALIGULA LP.
the one I have has a second 12 inch single with it foldout is that the one ? Not played it in years must dig it out if it is,
Yes, it is that foldout album. But the tracks are of course not on the attached 12 inch single, they are on the regular LP.
Just have a look on Discogs - the tracks are C 5, C 6 and C 7:
https://www.discogs.com/de/Various-Caligula-The-Music/release/1352040
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Stefan, do you happen to know why the great library music album TEMPO SOSPESO has been reissued only on LP? The whole first side is absolutely fascinating and truly deserves to be released on CD. More Nicolai please!
Laurent, for me the current situation is quite obvious: Italian library LPs from the 70s have become the true specialty of such labels as Four Flies or Sonor Music and a few others and they release everything only on vinyl in editions limited to about 500 copies. And there exists indeed a market of vinyl collectors for these releases nowadays - for these collectors the LPs are quite simply more attractive because of the colour graphics and because of the large covers. Therefore these collectors are much less interested in CDs than in LPs. It is out of question that you won´t find these collectors here on this board - but that´s a completely different matter. Of course, this is a limited market, but as you can see business-wise it is totally sufficient for such labels.
On the other hand, Digitmovies or Beat Records release Italian soundtracks on CD, but not library albums. That´s the difference. I think Nicolai´s CANOSSA was the one and only exception on Digitmovies, but nothing else followed anymore after this release. So why should Nicolai library albums therefore be expected on CD from them? And above all, not even Nicolai´s quite impressive documentary scores L´ALPIN L´È SEMPRE QUEL or L´ARMA MERAVIGLIOSA have surfaced on CD throughout the last years.
And regarding Edi-Pan itself which was Nicolai´s own music publisher and on whose label most of these LPs had been released in the 70s: They tried to release a few Nicolai scores on CD a few years ago, but then everything came to a halt after the release of ELEONORA in 2014. So I suppose that ELEONORA was probably a commercial failure and Edi-Pan had expected much more from that CD. So after that they just didn´t releease any more of their old Nicolai titles on CD. For me this is no big surprise.
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Nicolai reused at least three tracks from his "Tempo sospeso" library album - namely Oblio, Movimento and Primitivo - about 5 years later for the CALIGULA score in 1980 which he signed with the pseudonym Paul Clemente. The tracks can be found on the CALIGULA LP.
the one I have has a second 12 inch single with it foldout is that the one ? Not played it in years must dig it out if it is,
Yes, it is that foldout album. But the tracks are of course not on the attached 12 inch single, they are on the regular LP.
Just have a look on Discogs - the tracks are C 5, C 6 and C 7:
https://www.discogs.com/de/Various-Caligula-The-Music/release/1352040
many thank great info will check it all out
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If the CD of ELEONORA has indeed been a commercial failure, I would say it's a real pity. What a great score featuring gems such as the cue entitled Pranzo di Pasqua!
ELEONORA is also one of my favourite scores by Nicolai and and I immediately added the CD to my collection, although I also still have the old LP. But how many people have really bought the ELEONORA CD?
The usual dilemma for something like this is that the film doesn´t come from a popular Italian genre which is so important for the success of Italian soundtrack CDs, it is a historical subject from the 19th century and the music is rather classical. So it is neither the Spaghetti Western sound nor lounge/funk stuff many collectors associate with Italian 60s/70s scores and usually want to buy. In addition, almost nobody knows the TV series from 1973 and also very few people nowadays will know the music itself from the LP album. There just exists no cult about this title at all. So it is not that hard to imagine that something like this will be a hard sell.
For example, we have made a similar experience on Alhambra Records with the Lavagnino score MADAME SANS-GENE which is a historical comedy - despite the film´s star Sophia Loren this has been one of our commercially least successful Lavagnino albums.
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According to this webpage
https://www.edipan.com/soundtracks/cd-mp3/
All old LPs are listed as CD & MP3, however, I couldn't find any place offering these downloads or physical CDs. I already have most LPs but I'd download clean losless version, if that was available.
I think this list already exists for a long time and I remember seeing it even one or two years ago.
It seems that Edi-Pan once planned to release more CDs and also to make all their old LPs available as digital downloads on iTunes, but then they gave up these plans. Maybe it was just not rewarding for them. And then they didn´t reorganize this website anymore.
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Jan 14, 2019 - 8:48 AM
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Laurent78
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Thanks Slint for the Edi-Pan link.
Stefan, regarding what you ably described, in particular those categories of fans (western, easy listening, etc), I can understand it but I find it rather disappointing. Indeed, when I started my interest in composers like Nicolai in the early / mid-80's, the older and more experienced collectors I met by then didn’t make that kind of distinction. They would buy any Nicolai-related item, regardless of the genre of movie as well as library music albums, even the ones recorded under the pseudo of Leo Flag. And this was obviously true for other composers such as Lavagnino as well.
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Laurent, I fully agree with your assessment. These were different times during the 80s - we also have to consider that this was more than 30 years ago! - and of course I also knew or met many of those older collectors you describe who at that time had bought all kinds of Nicolai LP albums.
But during the 90s a new and young group of collectors arrived on the scene who got into Italian soundtracks mainly through the retro club and beat scene and therefore suddenly discovered the groovy and funky scores of the late 60s and early 70s which is therefore the main stuff they are looking for. So it is not the same kind of collectors anymore. Certainly a few of the older ones are still active, but in my opinion it is nowadays a more mixed bag if you understand what I mean.
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