No need for these separate Superman re-releases again. The LLL sets are the same masters and amounts of music.
And Superman 1 featured in the Blue Box has the best source available.
The Superman 2+3 releases have some extra terrible source music, if you call that an improvement, I guess. Basically these re-releases are for specific collectors who just want the new packaging.
You're thinking like a collector. Stop thinking like a collector. Stop. Have you stopped thinking like a collector? Well, then stop.
Think outside of the (Blue) box.
"Superman: The Movie" is one of the all-time great scores, and should be readily available for purchase like the Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores have been over the past ten years.
Someone at JWFan had this idea that I thought I'd share:
"Superman-Live-to-Projection concert Ideas:
I think the first thing that should be heard in the concert is the Superman fanfare, eventhough, it is not used in the final film version. The orchestra can play it while the screen is still blank, then the film can begin where the curtains are drawn wide and we hear that soft solo trumpet of the Superman motif. I feel that hearing the brass fanfare will get the audience started. In those Star Wars L2P concerts in the USA, the orchestra playing the Fox fanfare got huge cheers from the audience.
What about the Warner-Bros logo clip and the Geoffrey Unsworth dedication clip that precedes the film?
As you may recall, in the final-film’s end credits, portions of the ‘Love Theme from Superman’ cue were cut out. So, to restore the piece to its unedited form, the following can be featured at the end of the end-credits sequence
• a new dedication clip can be made featuring all the names of the people involved in the production that we’ve lost since 1978.
• The Warner Bros. studio logo clip
Considering that most of the audience will stay to the very end of the concert and that some printed-programs may ask them to remain seated “out of respect for the musicians and your fellow audience members”, having those said clips at the end of the program will get some use. Besides, having the audience hear the end of the love theme piece—a soft flute statement of the love theme followed by a somber French horn--over this dedication clip may be moving for them.
I think Richard Donner may sign-off, easily, on having the dedication switched to the end of the movie if he understands that this alteration would only be for the L2P concert. Convincing the studio to have their logo be seen at the end of the movie, may need work."
Someone at JWFan had this idea that I thought I'd share:
"Superman-Live-to-Projection concert Ideas:
From what I understand, those L2P concerts are great if you're in the city of origination (London for Star Trek, IIRC), but the road show for province towns is a different thing. They travel with a small ensemble and fill in the sound with orchestral recordings. I'm not even sure if the ensemble is really playing. Don't know.
Yeah there was. Mike’s post from the Superman IV thread.
- I had to make a new DDP for delivery I took the opportunity to listen and make some, as I said, "very, very, very minor" fixes. A tick or two painted out and a cleaned-up ending here and there, that kind of thing. And that's it.
So now that we have context, was the same treatment done for the Superman 2 and 3 release?
Thread wayyy too long for me to catch up. Been listening to the score this week. Anyone own the new 4K?
Swashbuckler posted the following:
For those who care about such things:
I have received my copy of the 4K UHD Superman, and the default 5.1 track sounds like it is the original split-surround 70mm mix, or at least a very good facsimile thereof. For those who have not been thrilled with the 2000 remix, you can finally hear the discrete original mix.
The 5.1 version of the track is only on the 4K disc, not on the enclosed Blu-ray (which I think is the same as from the box set).
Thread wayyy too long for me to catch up. Been listening to the score this week. Anyone own the new 4K?
Swashbuckler posted the following:
For those who care about such things:
I have received my copy of the 4K UHD Superman, and the default 5.1 track sounds like it is the original split-surround 70mm mix, or at least a very good facsimile thereof. For those who have not been thrilled with the 2000 remix, you can finally hear the discrete original mix.
The 5.1 version of the track is only on the 4K disc, not on the enclosed Blu-ray (which I think is the same as from the box set).
Thanks.
The Richard Donner Tom Mankiewicz commentary seems to have been left off the new UHD 40th anniversary release. Suspiciously.
The Richard Donner Tom Mankiewicz commentary seems to have been left off the new UHD 40th anniversary release. Suspiciously.
Nothing suspicious at all. The Donner/Mankiewicz commentary was only for the 2000 cut, the Salkind commentary was for the theatrical cut.
Ah thank you. So to own everything one needs to have to the 2006 DVD release for the extras and then the new 4k to hear the proper theatrical 70mm 6 channel soundtrack.
To have everything, you need the 4K UHD of the theatrical cut, and the Blu-ray of the extended television cut (which also comes with a Blu-ray of the 2000 edit). That should cover most of the features from the 2006 box set and the Blu-ray edition thereof.
The television cut is not in the anthology set. It is only available on the Blu-ray from the Warner Archives Collection (which also includes the disc with the 2000 cut).
The television cut is not in the anthology set. It is only available on the Blu-ray from the Warner Archives Collection (which also includes the disc with the 2000 cut).
The television cut is not in the anthology set. It is only available on the Blu-ray from the Warner Archives Collection (which also includes the disc with the 2000 cut).
So the WB Archives release that includes the TV Cut (and Donner's 2000 Cut) PLUS the Blu Ray Anthology Box PLUS the 4k Release gives you everything. I have no idea why I find this so confusing. It's plain as day.
The television cut is not in the anthology set. It is only available on the Blu-ray from the Warner Archives Collection (which also includes the disc with the 2000 cut).
Also the TV cut is Not the Director approved. Its most likely was prepared and approved by the producers for the TV special.
But Id love to see all the versions restored for 4K. A proper 4K anthology would be nice to have in the future.
THIS ...Statement is True...Donner was not a happy camper with the TV Version..and then the DVD Version Of TV. This was done by those Salkinds. Plus Donner said it was not the version that Stuart Baird And He Edited And Directed.
I picked up that blu ray last year to see the TV version and I had to give up after the first scene with Lex, Otis and Miss Tesmacher. Except for the fun transition from Clark and Lois getting into a taxi to the camera picking up Otis on the streets of New York, NOTHING about the extended version is worth watching. You'll believe Superman is boring!
