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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

The Knack album was a re-recording, and the original tracks never released.

The 60s thing could also be North or Schifrin.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

...soon afterwards we should be seeing the arrival of a terrific, personal favorite which was at one point going to be simply the best audio release of a classic album from several decade ago, itself a re-recording, only to have things happily result in a world premiere release of the actual soundtrack recordings as well.

Unlikely as it may be, my money is still on Nevada Smith.


Now that would be something really special to cheer about. God, I hope you are right.




I too would love to see NEVADA SMITH but I don't think so. If the tracks were available I think we would have seen it years ago. As Yavar pointed out, Newman's career was now winding down. I'm still guessing Goldsmith or Bernstein.
But, who knows?

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

MOCKINGBIRD?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

MOCKINGBIRD?

There are two primary points against this being To Kill a Mockingbird:

1) Intrada has already released the album recording from the master on their AVA collection.
2) Intrada also made it clear that the tapes for the film recording exist and have been remastered (the problem being that Alan Pakula’s estate apparently won’t let them release it.)

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah the issue with Mockingbird hasn’t been missing tapes, but rights. Roger told us they had access to the tapes, years ago! It’s not a lost recording, just a sadly unreleasable one.

Think United Artists films guys... there have been times in the past where full film recordings got send to the record label for whatever reason (like The Great Escape) and kept with the film recording. Maybe it was for reference comparison.

I’m guessing this is going to be a UA thing like that, which points to Hour of the Gun or maybe The Scalphunters or Cast a Giant Shadow.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

MOCKINGBIRD?

There are two primary points against this being To Kill a Mockingbird:

1) Intrada has already released the album recording from the master on their AVA collection.
2) Intrada also made it clear that the tapes for the film recording exist and have been remastered (the problem being that Alan Pakula’s estate apparently won’t let them release it.)


No, it's Gregory Peck's estate lawyer that is the uncooperative party here.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

MOCKINGBIRD?

There are two primary points against this being To Kill a Mockingbird:

1) Intrada has already released the album recording from the master on their AVA collection.
2) Intrada also made it clear that the tapes for the film recording exist and have been remastered (the problem being that Alan Pakula’s estate apparently won’t let them release it.)


No, it's Gregory Peck's estate lawyer that is the uncooperative party here.

James


Could have sworn I read that it was Pakula’s estate blocking a release, but after looking at IMDB and seeing that Gregory Peck was an uncredited producer, now I’m not so sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

Could it be something by Mancini? He certainly turned out a number of popular, classic soundtrack albums in the 60's which were almost always re-recordings.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 11:09 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Could it be something by Mancini? He certainly turned out a number of popular, classic soundtrack albums in the 60's which were almost always re-recordings.

Hmmmm.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2019 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)


Could it be something by Mancini? He certainly turned out a number of popular, classic soundtrack albums in the 60's which were almost always re-recordings.

Good guess, but mostly all Mancini's 60s album re-recordings are Sony titles.
And as we know, Sony doesn't license their albums to third party.
As MV & Mike said even if they wants to release ORIGINAL recordings, they still must make deal with Sony... frown

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 1:41 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

If it’s a Goldsmith, I’m 99% sure it’s Hour of the Gun. But there’s also an outside chance of a Bernstein or a Barry, based on earlier cues about this long hinted-at release.

Yavar


FLINT?


A lovely thought, but it doesn't quite fit the clues. Flint is two albums, not one, & the Intrada release sounded pretty good, I don't think they could improve it. I hope it is a sixties title, & more important, something I like. I dunno, but I just can't see a United Artist title found after all these years, I think that library's been gone through with a fine tooth comb many years ago. Anyway, we're not talking about a 90s action score, which for me is good news.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

As much as I'm a Goldsmith fanatic..I hope its not another Goldsmith( except DON IS DEAD or SHAMUS.)
Goldsmith is pretty much covered and there are so many cool sixties scores which have never been released in any form.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   MThiermann670   (Member)

I really would love to see 'The Chairman', my last personal grail by JG. Fingers crossed...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Goldsmith is pretty much covered

LIES!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

LIES!

Pretty strong wording...but than again..there is a president who is always claiming everything that doesnt fit his world view is Fake news...so maybe its the ZEITGEIST.
Sorry for getting political.
Anyways back on topic:
I only can recall 5 or so scores by Goldsmith out of how many??
that havnt been released so.....

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2019 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

If it’s a Goldsmith, I’m 99% sure it’s Hour of the Gun. But there’s also an outside chance of a Bernstein or a Barry, based on earlier cues about this long hinted-at release.

Yavar


FLINT?


A lovely thought, but it doesn't quite fit the clues. Flint is two albums, not one, & the Intrada release sounded pretty good, I don't think they could improve it. I hope it is a sixties title, & more important, something I like. I dunno, but I just can't see a United Artist title found after all these years, I think that library's been gone through with a fine tooth comb many years ago. Anyway, we're not talking about a 90s action score, which for me is good news.


But the complete film tracks are.not released yet.m

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2019 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I really would love to see 'The Chairman', my last personal grail by JG. Fingers crossed...

I'm sorry; this is what I too was most hoping for, when hints of this release started coming out around the same time that Twilight Time announced a Blu-ray release of the film with isolated score track. It seemed possible, since he was referring initially to album sources and then complete score sources. (The album master for The Chairman also went missing at some point and all CDs of the original album have been mastered from LP.) But later comments from Doug made clear that this was a distinctly different album recording, plus the film recording.

Also, Mike Mattesino recently weighed in online about the isolated score track which he worked on...scroll down to like the second item, here, to read his comment:
https://www.facebook.com/JerryGoldsmithOnline/

JGO webmaster wrote: Anybody have this one yet? Mentions isolated score but with some sfx. Wondered if this release presents any more music cleanly we haven’t got. Also, is it mono or stereo?

Mike replied: There are no original elements on the score. The track here utilized the album master where possible along with two separate mono sources. I don't think anything not released previously is there but I corrected the speed of the LP and cleaned it up. I also "helped" the M&E a bit where feasible to make the otherwise unavailable parts of the score a bit more audible.

I inquired of him: I’m guessing one of those two mono sources is what was used for the Varese Jerry at Fox box suite...or was that suite made from both sources? Did that suite include everything that survived in mono, music-only?
Also, you say you used the album master — has this been discovered, since the Prometheus release? At the time I remember they had to master *from* LP because the album master tapes had been lost.

Mike responded: One of the elements was from the Varese box, another was newer. No album master found - I did my own vinyl clean up.

--

I'm tellin' ya, Hour of the Gun! You heard it here, first. smile

Oh how I wish The Chairman survived though, or at the very least Fox allowed Prometheus access to the written scores for a new recording to happen...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2019 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

LIES!
Pretty strong wording...but than again..there is a president...


I'm sure you misspelled "precedent" since we aren't political here. wink

Still hoping for this...

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2019 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


I'm sure you misspelled "precident" since we aren't political here. wink


You mean "precedent"? wink

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2019 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)


I'm sure you misspelled "precident" since we aren't political here. wink

You mean "precedent"? wink
Yavar


Why no, I have no idea what you mean (thank you, edit button).

 
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