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 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

What happened to the LLL thread that started with a photo of their four new releases, including Somewhere in Time? I can't find it now. Can someone find the link to it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I really cannot understand any film music fan who says the Varese re-recording is enough. This is classic John Barry - how can there even be a thought about purchasing it? The Debney re-recording is one of the better ones in terms of sound, but it won't hold a candle to this release, sorry. It just won't. This is a must-have.

Because not everyone has a weird slavish love for the original just because it's the original, and prefers to listen to music rather than films.


Ah yes, shades of the original Lite Beer from Miller "Tastes great!" / "Less filling!" to each his own battle lines, but the bottom line is they all loved it. And whether you love it because of the score in the film or despite the film or the soundtrack standing alone, original or re-recorded, ya luv it. As for "slavish devotion," them thar's fightin' words. madrazz

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I can only speak for myself and the experience I had at the time of the movie and soundtrack release. This was a rare soundtrack purchase for my mother, who adored the movie and fell in love with the music. The only piece that compelled her to make the purchase was the music from Rachmaninoff. She was not aware that it was a classical piece and not written by John Barry. She couldn't have told you who John Barry was, nor could I....

...As for the Somewhere in time score, I too thought the Rachmaninoff piece was from the film composer. It wasn't until listening to the soundtrack a few times before I paid attention to who composed what piece. I suspect that there were many other casual listeners to soundtracks, like my mother, who thought that it was all original music from the film, and who did not know about John Barry.


Finally, the mother!
Greetings, R006. As I type I'm staring at the back of the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack album where my Ma, also a rare soundtrack purchaser, had double-ruled (Rachmaninoff) and to the right inscribed, my favorite composer in sumptuous cursive writing. She also penned a line running north directly from John Barry and noted,
Also composed the music for Dances With Wolves
Out of Africa

and one directly east,
--a genius!
Captures the essence of love & commitment!


I have no idea how and when she had discovered the film and its score but let me tell you, she played piano by ear and during her last days at the assisted living facility all I had to do was whisper a few notes of Rach or Barry and that 4/5 blind, short term memory ridden little lady would tickle them ivories and everyone within striking distance who would wander in and form an audience she had no idea existed.

That is the power of this score, Rach, Barry and even Roger Williams.
She wrote 4*s! next to his name.
smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)



Finally, the mother!
Greetings, R006. As I type I'm staring at the back of the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack album where my Ma, also a rare soundtrack purchaser, had double-ruled (Rachmaninoff) and to the right inscribed, my favorite composer in sumptuous cursive writing. She also penned a line running north directly from John Barry and noted,
Also composed the music for Dances With Wolves
Out of Africa

and one directly east, --a genius!
Captures the essence of love & commitment!


I have no idea how and when she had discovered the film and its score but let me tell you, she played piano by ear and during her last days at the assisted living facility all I had to do was whisper a few notes of Rach or Barry and that 4/5 blind, short term memory ridden little lady would tickle them ivories and everyone within striking distance who would wander in and form an audience she had no idea existed.

That is the power of this score, Rach, Barry and even Roger Williams.
She wrote 4*s! next to his name.
smile


Hello, Howard L. Thanks for sharing that nice story about your mother. No doubt that despite the Rachmaninoff piece, Barry's music really reaches out and speaks directly to many people's hearts. My mother wasn't familiar with Barry's other scores but no doubt she would've fell in love with them.

Recently, she found some old LPs I had left behind at her home, cleaned them up and sent them to me, but not before playing through them once. She told me she was getting ready to put on King Kong. I knew before she played it that she would really enjoy it, and she did. Regardless of the genre, from Somewhere In Time to King Kong, that is the power of Barry's beautiful melodies.

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

What happened to the LLL thread that started with a photo of their four new releases, including Somewhere in Time? I can't find it now. Can someone find the link to it?

Here's the link, Zap.

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144440&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Here's the link, Zap.

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144440&forumID=1&archive=0



Thanks, Adam! I couldn't find it to save my life.

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Decision making process on Limited Edition numbers

We look at each cd we release differently. Some basic questions are asked

1. How big was the film (and how well is it remembered)?
2. How popular is the composer?
3. If its an IP, will it cross over to non film score fans?

I'm not a big fan of the quick sell out, but I'm also a business man so I have tried to find a method in which we can release a title, sell a bunch so we pretty much pay for all the upfront fees, then piecemeal out the remaining units over the course of the next year or so to keep the title around to allow some folks to find out about it and wait for it to come back in stock. With the AFM, for many years, we were limited as to how many units we could sell of some titles. As of just recently, some restrictions have been lifted and future titles may go past the 5k...or even 10k limit. We chose 5k for Somewhere in Time because it has a fan base that reaches beyond film score fans. I'm fairly confident that we will sell all 5000 units in the coming years (its a 3 year license). Perhaps it will sell out sooner than 3 years, but I would like to keep it around for at least 12 to 18 months to give people a chance to pick it.

Somewhere in Time is a stellar release, originally slated to be the star on top of our 2020 Christmas tree, but alas it wasn't approved in time for its 40th Anniversary despite all of our best efforts (you can blame Covid, melting polar ice caps, hell even Santa if you want). It will finally be out next week, meticulously produced by Mike Matessino, stellar art direction by Jim Titus and exquisite liner notes by Jon Burlingame.

MV

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2021 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

Decision making process on Limited Edition numbers...

MV, thanks for that nice insight into the decision-making that goes into those numbers. While it is, ultimately, guesswork, it looks like you've come up with a formula that satisfies both the fans and the business. Here's hoping for another successful release from you guys.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2021 - 3:04 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Decision making process on Limited Edition numbers

We look at each cd we release differently. Some basic questions are asked

1. How big was the film (and how well is it remembered)?
2. How popular is the composer?
3. If its an IP, will it cross over to non film score fans?

I'm not a big fan of the quick sell out, but I'm also a business man so I have tried to find a method in which we can release a title, sell a bunch so we pretty much pay for all the upfront fees, then piecemeal out the remaining units over the course of the next year or so to keep the title around to allow some folks to find out about it and wait for it to come back in stock. With the AFM, for many years, we were limited as to how many units we could sell of some titles. As of just recently, some restrictions have been lifted and future titles may go past the 5k...or even 10k limit. We chose 5k for Somewhere in Time because it has a fan base that reaches beyond film score fans. I'm fairly confident that we will sell all 5000 units in the coming years (its a 3 year license). Perhaps it will sell out sooner than 3 years, but I would like to keep it around for at least 12 to 18 months to give people a chance to pick it.

Somewhere in Time is a stellar release, originally slated to be the star on top of our 2020 Christmas tree, but alas it wasn't approved in time for its 40th Anniversary despite all of our best efforts (you can blame Covid, melting polar ice caps, hell even Santa if you want). It will finally be out next week, meticulously produced by Mike Matessino, stellar art direction by Jim Titus and exquisite liner notes by Jon Burlingame.

MV


Can't wait! Thank you again and again and again, for all your magnificent work!!!

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Things to note:

This is 45 minutes longer than the 1980 album.

It is 33 minutes longer than the Varese recording.

We now see that A Day Together on the original album looks as if it was actually the original end title, and that's why it's not the A Day Together we had in the film.

There are 55 minutes of John Barry score music compared to 40 on the Varese recording.

There are 61 minutes of John Barry total music including his source cues.

Anyone still doubting if they need this?

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

SOMWHERE IN TIME: LIMITED EDITION”
Music by John Barry

Limited Edition of 5000 Units
RETAIL PRICE: $21.98
STARTS SHIPPING JULY 20

La-La Land Records, Universal Pictures, and Geffen proudly present a Limited Edition remastered and expanded CD reissue of renowned composer John Barry’s (GOLDFINGER, OUT OF AFRICA, DANCES WITH WOLVES) original motion picture score to the beloved 1980 big screen romantic fantasy-drama SOMEWHERE IN TIME, directed by Jeannot Szwarc and starring Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour and Christopher Plummer. Barry’s rich, gorgeous orchestral score perfectly embodies this heartfelt and heartbreaking romantic classic, enriching it with a resonating melodic and thematic timelessness that is vital to the film’s powerful sentimental allure. As the director himself states, “John’s music gave the film everything it needed. I still think it’s his most beautiful score – and one of the most beautiful scores in the history of film.”

Produced, mastered and edited from studio vault elements by Mike Matessino, this expanded CD is limited to 5000 units and features never-before-released score cues and additional music, including the music box arrangement of Rachmaninoff Rhapsody, Barry’s original music for Elise’s stage show, two previously unheard arrangements of the Somewhere In Time theme, and more! The exclusive, in depth liner notes are by journalist and author Jon Burlingame and the timeless art design is by Jim Titus.

TRACK LISTING:

SCORE PRESENTATION 44:01

1 Theme From Somewhere In Time 3:26
Performed by Roger Williams; Produced by Michael Lloyd

2 The Grand Hotel* 2:04
3 Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini 2:54
Piano Solo by Chet Swiatkowski

4 The Old Woman (Film Version) 2:49
5 June 27th* 2:03
6 Room 417 * 1:11
7 The Journey Back In Time 4:29
8 Is He The One? (Film Version) 3:13
9 A Day Together (Film Version) 2:31
10 Rowing* 1:15
11 The Man Of My Dreams 1:42
12 That’s It * :40
13 Razor * 1:05
14 Total Dismay ** 3:21
15 Coin * :37
16 Return To The Present * 4:10
17 A Day Together (End Credits) 6:08

SOURCE MUSIC AND ALTERNATES 32:36

SOURCE MUSIC:

18 After Party * 2:03
19 Car Jazz * 2:00
20 Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini (Alternate) 3:03
Piano Solo by Chet Swiatkowski

21 Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini (Music Box) 2:11
22 Is He The One? (Alternate Excerpt) * 2:21
23 My Melancholy Baby* 2:02
24 Oh, You Beautiful Doll * 3:30
25 In The Good Old Summer Time * :37
26 I Want A Girl (Just Like The Girl That Married Dear Old Dad)* 1:53
27 Wisdom Of The Heart * 1:09

ALTERNATES:

28 Somewhere In Time (Piano Theme)* 1:59
29 Rowing (Alternate)* 1:18
30 Razor (Alternate)* :51
31 Coin (Alternate) * :32
32 Somewhere In Time (Theme Variation)* 1:46
33 Finale And End Credits (From The Motion Picture Somewhere In Time)* 4:57

TOTAL DISC TIME: 76:37

* previously unreleased
** contains previously unreleased music

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Things to note:

This is 45 minutes longer than the 1980 album.

It is 33 minutes longer than the Varese recording.

We now see that A Day Together on the original album looks as if it was actually the original end title, and that's why it's not the A Day Together we had in the film.

There are 55 minutes of John Barry score music compared to 40 on the Varese recording.

There are 59 minutes of John Barry total music including his source cues.

Anyone still doubting if they need this?

Cheers


I mean, a lot of that 'John Barry score' is alternates.

'Need' is a strong word here. Obviously as a whole there's more to the album than the Varese, no one can deny that. But for me, there's a couple things that would prevent me wanting it. But we'll see.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I suspect the big sales of the original album were much more to do with the Rachmaninoff excerpt rather than the Barry content. Like a couple of Strauss excerpts being responsible for millions of "2001" albums despite negligible interest in any of the other music, and people buying "Apocalypse Now" albums just for three minutes of Wagner.

Hmm... not sure about that. The Rachmaninoff is a well known and well regarded classical piece, there are numerous recordings of the piece, and on the soundtrack there is only a small excerpt of it. Why would anyone buy the SOMEWHERE IN TIME soundtrack just for Rachmaninoff, when you can get that piece in countless better recordings and most importantly complete?

And did anyone really buy the Apocalypse Now album for the short Wagner piece?
Sometimes, it's the mixture. Some may buy soundtracks like APOCALYPSE NOW because it's an odd but interesting mix... The Doors, Wagner, Flash Cadillac... or John Barry and Sergei Rachmaninoff.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

I suspect the big sales of the original album were much more to do with the Rachmaninoff excerpt rather than the Barry content. Like a couple of Strauss excerpts being responsible for millions of "2001" albums despite negligible interest in any of the other music, and people buying "Apocalypse Now" albums just for three minutes of Wagner.

Hmm... not sure about that. The Rachmaninoff is a well known and well regarded classical piece, there are numerous recordings of the piece, and on the soundtrack there is only a small excerpt of it. Why would anyone buy the SOMEWHERE IN TIME soundtrack just for Rachmaninoff, when you can get that piece in countless better recordings and most importantly complete?

And did anyone really buy the Apocalypse Now album for the short Wagner piece?
Sometimes, it's the mixture. Some may buy soundtracks like APOCALYPSE NOW because it's an odd but interesting mix... The Doors, Wagner, Flash Cadillac... or John Barry and Sergei Rachmaninoff.


I love the entire score but my favorite cue was Rachmaninoff and yes back in the day I thought it was composed for the soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   vinylman   (Member)

Ordered! :-)

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Samples, 1280x1280 cover art, and new splash image now available!

https://lalalandrecords.com/somewhere-in-time-limited-edition/

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Valiant65   (Member)

It's a nice hot sunny day, a thunderstorm just rolled through and made the air fresh, so I should be out going for a 2 hour walk.

Instead, I'm inside listening to samples from one of the greatest film scores of my lifetime. I'm just looking for it to show up at the Intrada store so I can order.

Here we are, just over half-way through the year, and this is clearly the highlight of the year for me. (No doubt, something huge will appear in the next week or 5 months that could be of equal importance.)

I'm just gonna echo all the previous fanboys of this score who have proclaimed this to be one of John Barry's all time best scores. I usually don't like source cues breaking up the flow of the composer's music, (they are like speed bumps to my destination) but in this case I'll struggle through somehow. In the old days, I'd just lift the needle and hop over to the next track.

I dragged a friend to see this film on opening weekend. She had no idea what she was in for. I had read "Bid Time Return" by Richard Matheson. So I was confident the film version could survive the adaptation.

This is an endorsement for those who love the movie and score, to find the book. It hasn't been mentioned as yet.

In a way, I've been waiting some 40 years for this, not knowing that I could finally get more than just an LP back in 1980. (Does that make sense?)

So a mammoth thanks to all those involved who willed this into existence.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I've never seen this film and never heard this score.

After all the hype about this release, I'm extremely excited to check it out!

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Captain Cold   (Member)

I've never seen this film and never heard this score.

After all the hype about this release, I'm extremely excited to check it out!



Then you are in for a real treat Sir.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2021 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

My order is in because this is the kind of music I like; not because a Barry or a Williams sells well. Thank you , Lalaland.

 
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