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Critical reviews are tricky these days because celebrity and influencer status are rampant currency not just in the professional world but for literally anyone who has a cellphone. Consequently some reviews are written to ride on the coattails of DUNE's natural PR machine and gain prominence and viewers and clicks. Which is why I avoid the most hyperbolic reviews and focus on the more grounded ones.
The most grounded reviews on both sides either say the film wasn't that great, it was ok but had some flaws, or it was enjoyable. But the really hyperbolic ones are ridiculous. The best one is comparing it to Lord of the Rings and saying it's what we need in these dark times...
I find that to be such a cringe desperate statement because the book "Dune" has objectively never been anywhere close to as popular as "Lord of the Rings". There are tons of reasons why people like Lord of the Rings more, but in comparison to Dune, elements of Dune are very clunky and the message and characters (protagonist Paul comes from a spoiled monarchy) just aren't actually that positive or inspiring. Lord of the Rings offers a world that is more familiar, more pleasant (minus the wars), and with a tremendously positive and uplifting set of values and TONS of different characters to admire.
But that's all pretty obvious, and with the way that films are made now, I don't expect it to be some generation-defining phenomenon, even though we'll be told that it is. I do expect it to be an entertaining and well-made film though, because Villeneuve is a pretty disciplined filmmaker. Having seen the very smooth/clean/focused/sterile flyovers of landscapes in SICARIO (and been very impressed by that), I expect that same cinematic sense of vastness in DUNE which a lot of filmmakers don't do. And that should be intriguing - but no matter what, the world of DUNE is dark, shadowy, and unpleasant. Much like SICARIO. Entertaining, but not somewhere I want to keep visiting.
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Sep 11, 2021 - 12:57 PM
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Critical reviews are tricky these days because celebrity and influencer status are rampant currency not just in the professional world but for literally anyone who has a cellphone. Consequently some reviews are written to ride on the coattails of DUNE's natural PR machine and gain prominence and viewers and clicks. Which is why I avoid the most hyperbolic reviews and focus on the more grounded ones.
The most grounded reviews on both sides either say the film wasn't that great, it was ok but had some flaws, or it was enjoyable. But the really hyperbolic ones are ridiculous. The best one is comparing it to Lord of the Rings and saying it's what we need in these dark times...
I find that to be such a cringe desperate statement because the book "Dune" has objectively never been anywhere close to as popular as "Lord of the Rings". There are tons of reasons why people like Lord of the Rings more, but in comparison to Dune, elements of Dune are very clunky and the message and characters (protagonist Paul comes from a spoiled monarchy) just aren't actually that positive or inspiring. Lord of the Rings offers a world that is more familiar, more pleasant (minus the wars), and with a tremendously positive and uplifting set of values and TONS of different characters to admire.
But that's all pretty obvious, and with the way that films are made now, I don't expect it to be some generation-defining phenomenon, even though we'll be told that it is. I do expect it to be an entertaining and well-made film though, because Villeneuve is a pretty disciplined filmmaker. Having seen the very smooth/clean/focused/sterile flyovers of landscapes in SICARIO (and been very impressed by that), I expect that same cinematic sense of vastness in DUNE which a lot of filmmakers don't do. And that should be intriguing - but no matter what, the world of DUNE is dark, shadowy, and unpleasant. Much like SICARIO. Entertaining, but not somewhere I want to keep visiting.
I agree. Lord of the Rings is the typical "hero's journey" while Dune is the antithesis of it.
I believe the movie will be awesome, albeit Zimmer score wich will be the same crap he always do - but maybe it will not ruin the movie as some of his scores like The Thin Red Line or the Batman ones.
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Sep 11, 2021 - 1:16 PM
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Mephariel
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Critical reviews are tricky these days because celebrity and influencer status are rampant currency not just in the professional world but for literally anyone who has a cellphone. Consequently some reviews are written to ride on the coattails of DUNE's natural PR machine and gain prominence and viewers and clicks. Which is why I avoid the most hyperbolic reviews and focus on the more grounded ones.
The most grounded reviews on both sides either say the film wasn't that great, it was ok but had some flaws, or it was enjoyable. But the really hyperbolic ones are ridiculous. The best one is comparing it to Lord of the Rings and saying it's what we need in these dark times...
I find that to be such a cringe desperate statement because the book "Dune" has objectively never been anywhere close to as popular as "Lord of the Rings". There are tons of reasons why people like Lord of the Rings more, but in comparison to Dune, elements of Dune are very clunky and the message and characters (protagonist Paul comes from a spoiled monarchy) just aren't actually that positive or inspiring. Lord of the Rings offers a world that is more familiar, more pleasant (minus the wars), and with a tremendously positive and uplifting set of values and TONS of different characters to admire.
But that's all pretty obvious, and with the way that films are made now, I don't expect it to be some generation-defining phenomenon, even though we'll be told that it is. I do expect it to be an entertaining and well-made film though, because Villeneuve is a pretty disciplined filmmaker. Having seen the very smooth/clean/focused/sterile flyovers of landscapes in SICARIO (and been very impressed by that), I expect that same cinematic sense of vastness in DUNE which a lot of filmmakers don't do. And that should be intriguing - but no matter what, the world of DUNE is dark, shadowy, and unpleasant. Much like SICARIO. Entertaining, but not somewhere I want to keep visiting.
I mean the RT percent and score basically echo what you said anyway. That is the whole point of RT, so hyperbolic reviews won't dominate. It is an average of all scores. The movie has a 86% rating which means most reviewers like the movie. The actual score of 7.9 represent a film that is well made, but certainly not an acclaimed masterpiece. Although all can change with more reviews, but with 40+ reviews you get a pretty good sense.
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It will be interesting to see how it matches against the audience reviews. It’s always telling when you compare the two values.
Looking at the STAR WARS films for comparison, I did notice a few critic reviews that are recent, but for the older films. I think that’s kind of weird because they’re decades out of context for the film. Which is an interesting point - is there a timeframe in which a film review is relevant and after which it is not?
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DUNE is not for teenagers.
That’s why it will not bring in enough money.
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Anyone has received CD-R manufactured on demand release from Amazon ?
I'm looking for a real photos of this release...
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