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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 12:36 AM   
 By:   Dr Smith   (Member)

My Time Tunnel set arrived today,very well padded and in perfect condition.
I have ripped all 3 CDs to my computer, and am listening to the over three hours of music as time permits.
I am impressed by how much better it sounds than the limited earlier GNP Crescendo release. Time Tunnel was supposedly Irwin Allen's favorite of his Sci-Fi shows, and the 6 dedicated roughly 30 minute soundtracks for each episode all have their own integrity.The included booklet itself is also a work of art, with many photographs and detailed notes on the music.
I commend LaLaLand Records for another outstanding release.
I can't wait for Volume 2.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Fox had no music elements from Voyage season one.

Happily there are parts of Sawtell's pilot score on the LLL set (and the old GNP). Are these taken from copies in the composer's estate?

I don't want to shout "next" but Jeff says there's hope for more Irwin Allen music on CD. My grail is LaSalle's City Beneath the Sea. And Time Tunnel's Robert Colbert was in it! And of course James Darren, too! smile


 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Only interested in John Williams' contribution to the series. That's why I dropped the previous LLL sets (too expensive). I remain undecided. Is it worth it?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Only interested in John Williams' contribution to the series. That's why I dropped the previous LLL sets (too expensive). I remain undecided. Is it worth it?

To be blunt, no. No music is worth that kind of money.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Only interested in John Williams' contribution to the series. That's why I dropped the previous LLL sets (too expensive). I remain undecided. Is it worth it?

Irwin Allen always had high quality scoring in his productions. There's of course John Williams and also Jerry Goldsmith who did some music for Voyage, too. But especially the music of Leith Stevens for these shows was outstanding. And there were many other great composers working for Allen.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   HGN2001   (Member)

I couldn't be happier with this release for THE TIME TUNNEL. It's everything I ever wanted - except for what awaits on Volume 2 of course!

A really classy job. Great mail packaging with the tightest bubble wrap imaginable, and a pristine set inside, still wrapped in shrink and totally perfect in every way. The booklet and liner notes are top notch, images are episode specific within, and even a listing of the members of "THE TIME TUNNEL ORCHESTRA" is provided.

Kudos all around to the team that put this together.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Only interested in John Williams' contribution to the series. That's why I dropped the previous LLL sets (too expensive). I remain undecided. Is it worth it?

It's worth it if you feel it's worth it. For simply the John Williams stuff, maybe not. I can say "hey you're missing out on great music from other composers" but if you're not interested, you're not interested.

To be blunt, no. No music is worth that kind of money.

What kind of money? $40??? For a 3 CD set? $13 per CD ain't much at all.


 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

My copy arrived today and I'm on my second CD now. The sound quality is f'n amazing, I'm thrilled with the presentation. So much great music.

I'm happy to finally hear the full cue for the cliffhanger at the finish of End of the World. It was truncated on the DVDs/blu rays and most syndicated prints. It was longer to cover the announcer saying "The Time Tunnel will be back in a moment!" Then they went into the third and final one minute preview clips of future episodes: "this is the incredible Time Tunnel in the weeks to come!"

It's surprising so much music form this series survived when Voyage and Giants were guttet, but I'm grateful it exists and that all of you folks like Neil, Jeff, Matt, MV and all the others have put so much effort into getting these cues out there. The liner notes are, as usual, excellent.

Another "grail" down!

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Jeff Bond's liner notes mention the cliffhanger music for "Crack of Doom" was left unused for the scenes from the following week's "Revenge of the Gods." He speculates that since the title "Bleeker St. East" and the music don't match the footage, some changes were made prior to air.

The music was actually used wholesale at the end of "Reign of Terror" which was the cliffhanger leading to "Secret Weapon." The scene takes place on a street in an unspecified Eastern Bloc country, which probably explains the title. That episode was 5th in production order, while "Crack of Doom" was #8, but perhaps the plan was to run just after this one before changing their minds and bumping "Secret Weapon" to November, probably to put it in during the "sweeps" weeks. It was a pretty strong episode.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I'm looking forward to hearing Lyn Murray's work, hopefully Intrada will receive their shipment soon. I was somewhat disappointed with the disc in the GNP Crescendo Fantasy Worlds set in terms of the music, but I take a measure of solace in the inclusion of the 'Special Bonus Disc'.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)


Unfortunately, I suspect THE TIME TUNNEL used a lot of historical movie music and I know it used music from DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA episodes, LOST IN SPACE music barely, JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH heavily, GARDEN OF EVIL, KING OF THE KHYBER PASS, THE LAST WAGON, PRINCE VALIANT, and at least one Robin Hood movie and others. TIME TUNNEL is the LEAST interesting show of Allen's (and the 60s in general) musically.


You just listed a boxcar load of incredible scores by genius composers and then followed that up with "TIME TUNNEL is the LEAST interesting show of Allen's (and the 60s in general) musically." My eyes rolled pretty hard.

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No, Dear, the LOST BOMB fight music that is also heard when Nelson and Sharkey fight the shadow man in DEADLY INVASION is resoundingly NOT on the set and I get that it was either not there or damaged.

You also didn't understand: musically, IMO, TIME TUNNEL'S original scores are the least interesting. NOT the stuff they stole from other movies. That stuff is great and is also used in LOST IN SPACE and VOYAGE, again and again, some of it. LAND OF THE GIANTS IMO has the MOST interesting new music, original in 99 percent of its episodes and yet, it gets shafted. One of the creators of the set, on this forum, more than admitted that his "bosses" wanted a "best of" release for LOTG while NOT doing that for VOYAGE and TUNNEL, so I have more than a reason to feel disappointed and bitter as this means that THEY DO have more from LOTG that was NOT released. Of course, there will always be those that want people who have different opinions other than their own tasteless ones, to shut up and not express themselves. I express anyway in the slim hopes that La La Land will hear that and hopefully do another LOTG release before any of the other three shows find a new release. You and I will never agree. Thankfully.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


No, Dear, the LOST BOMB fight music that is also heard when Nelson and Sharkey fight the shadow man in DEADLY INVASION is resoundingly NOT on the set and I get that it was either not there or damaged.


Thanks, sweet 'ums, for clarifying.


You also didn't understand:


Because you didn't state clearly. Again. You just started bitching. Again.

Of course, there will always be those that want people who have different opinions other than their own tasteless ones, to shut up and not express themselves.

You can have different opinions, I don't honestly care if you think LOTG music is more interesting than The Time Tunnel. Express your opinion like rational person and discussion is interesting and fun. But if all you do is swing onto this forum just to complain on Irwin Allen score threads about how shitty your favorite show was treated then you come off looking like an ungrateful D hole. That's on you. It's not a matter of opinion or musical taste, it's just lousy manners and typical of internet fandom of old TV shows. If it makes financial sense to release a second volume and if there's enough music to support it, then it'll happen. In the meantime, if you expended some energy pointing out what you LIKE about these releases without tossing in complaints, you'd find some interesting discussions and less friction.

You and I will never agree. Thankfully.

We actually might, we enjoy the same music, you just need to stop crabbing all the time.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Hey Charles124, it's a wonder anything got released from LotG and VttBotS. The only niche market I can think of that's smaller is the province-town musician selling his own CDR's at a flea market.

Seriously, we should be grateful for what we get. Scott has suggested as much elsewhere, and he really misses what's not on the set.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Hey Charles124, it's a wonder anything got released from LotG and VttBotS. The only niche market I can think of that's smaller is the province-town musician selling his own CDR's at a flea market.

Seriously, we should be grateful for what we get. Scott has suggested as much elsewhere, and he really misses what's not on the set.


Exactly. TBH, that point was lost in the reaction to your barrage of negativity, Charles. I'm sorry for my part in it, just try to look at the positives of these releases and hope for the best in the future.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I'm happy to finally hear the full cue for the cliffhanger at the finish of End of the World. It was truncated on the DVDs/blu rays and most syndicated prints. It was longer to cover the announcer saying "The Time Tunnel will be back in a moment!" Then they went into the third and final one minute preview clips of future episodes: "this is the incredible Time Tunnel in the weeks to come!"

Hey Scott, this is bringing back all them tween year viewings. I mean the memory is not as sharp as of TZ from even earlier but it's not bad. I can hear the announcer as I type.

They had a share of crossover aliens eps; the one that took place in the old west (Arizona?) was eerie. I think a picture of the aliens with the painted gold faces is somewhere on this thread. Another took place with the battle of Khartoum as the setting. It was just plain weird.

The music of the series was memorable but again, didn't hit the mind's ear as much as other biggies of the 60s. I feel like revisiting the entire series in order to see how much I've retained. Btw, Carroll O'Connor had one of the best fake British accents in the war of 1812 ep.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

If you get the DVD or Blu Ray sets, Howard, the previews are included as a bonus. The only thing missing from those sets are the In Color bumpers. At least the music is on the CD set.

The Blu Rays look freaking outstanding. They're made in the UK but region free.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

Fox had no music elements from Voyage season one.

Happily there are parts of Sawtell's pilot score on the LLL set (and the old GNP). Are these taken from copies in the composer's estate?

I don't want to shout "next" but Jeff says there's hope for more Irwin Allen music on CD. My grail is LaSalle's City Beneath the Sea. And Time Tunnel's Robert Colbert was in it! And of course James Darren, too! smile




Good God, no. While I'd love that music, most of it is in LAND OF THE GIANTS and actually on the CD set released. I would go for a total redo of LAND OF THE GIANTS starting with whatever they have including RETURN OF INIDU which seemed very short shifted on the set. I'd buy two of every disk released and would even buy single releases if they went episode by episode of like TIME TUNNEL. I wish I knew what they did not release that WAS NOT damaged that can be released.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrUs-t_20F4&t=3004s

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

There aren't many films scored by Amfitheatrof for 20th Century Studios; only 8 that I know of.

1949

THE FAN
HOUSE OF STRANGERS
SAND

UNDER MY SKIN (1950)

1951

BIRD OF PARADISE (on Varese Club CD)
THE DESERT FOX

1958

FRäULEIN
FROM HELL TO TEXAS

If that 'the paperhanger is still alive' cue happens not to come from The Desert Fox, then perhaps it's from Fräulein?


Please remember IRWIN ALLEN had rights to stock footage from OTHER studios, too, and it's likely he might have access to MUSIC from other studio films as well! Good luck!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   charles124   (Member)

Only interested in John Williams' contribution to the series. That's why I dropped the previous LLL sets (too expensive). I remain undecided. Is it worth it?

To be blunt, no. No music is worth that kind of money.


To not be blunt, YES, these releases ARE worth that money!

 
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