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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4      Non-Film Score Discussion: Leonard Nimoy & Star Trek:The Humorless Picture    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3 4    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 12:45 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) From YouTube...Leonard Nimoy Discusses Star Trek The Motion Picture. It seems Nimoy and Me had a Mind Meld. From 1979 till now...I have always said that Star Trek The Motion Picture had the wrong Director, Script and this awful Human less factor. No Humor, and These Trek Team have been around for years and share what Star Trek 2,3, 4, 5 and 6 showed...Friendship. It is very Fascinating! What Nimoy States as the truth. https://youtu.be/8wUiZxawqYM They seem to have caught Nimoy on a somewhat dour day. Brain! Brain! What is brain?! His criticisms are not totally unfounded. It was not an actors film and for that I understand his frustration. But I still love the film for what it was trying to be, not what others wanted it to be. And yes it was a hurried project and a jumbled script. The biggest criticisms are the films biggest strengths. What saved the film in my opinion was the creative genius's who created the effects work for the film. It at least gave the film a strong visual narrative that was lacking in the script.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 12:45 PM     By:   Morricone   (Member) Best film music thread ever!    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 1:04 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) --the dialogue and story aren't hugely important--it's more about the images and the music. And no action. The original nickname for the movie was STAR TREK: THE MOTIONLESS PICTURE.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 1:15 PM     By:   Ado   (Member) The most solidly made and significant film of the entire Trek movie series. Perfect? No. A remarkable achievement with stunning visuals, great production design and score, a thinking persons story. Only a tiny handful of films make you feel like you are actually working in space in a massive craft, TMP does. Still remains my favorite.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 2:02 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) With a universe of possibilities, they re-used "The Changeling" episode plot. I guess they needed some generic, universal threat without any personality to get the old gang back together and let their characters be the focus. "The Doomsday Machine" is probably too well known and cherished to reboot, but it would have been alot more fun.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 2:08 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I think that Roddenberry revisited the concept in more than one episode. I chalk it up to reflecting his own personal search for God and what place he thought God might have in the future.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 2:17 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I think that Roddenberry revisited the concept in more than one episode. I chalk it up to reflecting his own personal search for God and what place he thought God might have in the future. The point is they lifted the plot from the episode, not some abstraction. The show managed to be avoid repeating specific plot lines so why not the movie.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 2:38 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I think that Roddenberry revisited the concept in more than one episode. I chalk it up to reflecting his own personal search for God and what place he thought God might have in the future. The point is they lifted the plot from the episode, not some abstraction. The show managed to be avoid repeating specific plot lines so why not the movie. I understood your point--I was merely adding that the plot was cribbed from several episodes, though I agree that it was primarily from "The Changeling". My add-on about GR's thoughts about God was simply musing about WHY so many episodes had that common thread running through them.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 2:44 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) With a universe of possibilities, they re-used "The Changeling" episode plot. I guess they needed some generic, universal threat without any personality to get the old gang back together and let their characters be the focus. "The Doomsday Machine" is probably too well known and cherished to reboot, but it would have been alot more fun. Well in a way it was. V'ger was an unstoppable "planet killer" as well. It gobbled up everything in its path. We got to remember the course correction from TV pilot to film. Other than Decker and Ilia what else was brought over from the original script? Oh I think the new science officer was going to replace Spock in the TV series but they killed him off in the film and replaced him with Spock!    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 9:03 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I understood your point--I was merely adding that the plot was cribbed from several episodes, though I agree that it was primarily from "The Changeling". Well that's even worse! If they didn't already own the show, they could have sued and won for plagiarism!    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 9:18 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) With a universe of possibilities, they re-used "The Changeling" episode plot. I guess they needed some generic, universal threat without any personality to get the old gang back together and let their characters be the focus. "The Doomsday Machine" is probably too well known and cherished to reboot, but it would have been alot more fun. Well in a way it was. V'ger was an unstoppable "planet killer" as well. It gobbled up everything in its path. We got to remember the course correction from TV pilot to film. Other than Decker and Ilia what else was brought over from the original script? Oh I think the new science officer was going to replace Spock in the TV series but they killed him off in the film and replaced him with Spock! As I already stated, the Changeling was a universal threat like the Doomsday Machine. But TMP copied The Changeling, not Doomsday Machine. If you don't recall, the Changeling was a combination of an earth probe and alien probe, had immense power, was destroying all life on planets, and was looking for its creator. And the only thing relevant to the point (that they re-used the plot) is the final product, not script changes.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 9:27 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) With a universe of possibilities, they re-used "The Changeling" episode plot. I guess they needed some generic, universal threat without any personality to get the old gang back together and let their characters be the focus. "The Doomsday Machine" is probably too well known and cherished to reboot, but it would have been alot more fun. Well in a way it was. V'ger was an unstoppable "planet killer" as well. It gobbled up everything in its path. We got to remember the course correction from TV pilot to film. Other than Decker and Ilia what else was brought over from the original script? Oh I think the new science officer was going to replace Spock in the TV series but they killed him off in the film and replaced him with Spock! No, V'ger was like The Changeling, period. If you don't recall, the Changeling was a combination of an earth probe and alien probe, had immense power, was destroying all life on planets, and was looking for its creator. And the only thing relevant to the point (that they reused the plot) is the final product, not script changes. I wasn't disagreeing that the Changeling was the major inspiration for the film.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 9:34 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I was still edting my post, but it's a moot point V'ger is a universal threat since the Changeling was a universal threat. And of course, that's all they do in the movies.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2019 - 9:47 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Well, as Morricone already hinted at, this thread would be better served on the other side--so I hope Townerbarry has the mods make the move. His choice, of course.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 1:45 AM     By:   townerbarry   (Member) Well, as Morricone already hinted at, this thread would be better served on the other side--so I hope Townerbarry has the mods make the move. His choice, of course. Maybe if you yap about Jerry’s score they will not move the thread...Yap!    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 1:59 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Maybe if you yap about Jerry’s score they will not move the thread...Yap! Not me, mate. Can't stand the score. Tacky and unimaginative.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 6:19 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) Well, as Morricone already hinted at, this thread would be better served on the other side-- Which I said from the start, but nobody really reads my posts. The DOOMSDAY MACHINE. Now more than ever.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 10:20 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Well, as Morricone already hinted at, this thread would be better served on the other side-- Which I said from the start, but nobody really reads my posts. Yes, you did, Dude. Credit where it's due.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 11:07 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) Well, as Morricone already hinted at, this thread would be better served on the other side-- Which I said from the start, but nobody really reads my posts. Yes, you did, Dude. Credit where it's due. It's too late. It's ruined.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2019 - 11:49 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) Jesus! Now I don't know what side of the board I'm on.     Non-Film Score Discussion: Leonard Nimoy & Star Trek:The Humorless Picture    << < 1 2 3 4  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4

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