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 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Did anyone else notice that this looks a little odd, too?
The top is the regular Paramount release.
The bottom is the Criterion.
The Criterion looks cropped.
There may be reasons, but this is a concern (I didn't bother to fiddle with the image size).


Just to be clear, you're comparing a PAL dvd to the Criterion blu-ray, and that means both blu-rays are cropped in comparison.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Okay, but I wasn't comparing the formats, just strictly the image.
The old DVD has more visual info.
If it comes to having to make a choice, I think I would always take the one with more image.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Could be the dvd was designed to accommodate "overscan" which has the same effect as matting - the ragged edge all around (especially that right side) would not be visible on CRT TVs. But some HDTVs don't have overscan, and the vertical sides of a fullscreen video would definitely be visible. That would explain cropping the HD since there would be no matting-type effect by an HDTV.

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Did anyone else notice that this looks a little odd, too?
The top is the regular Paramount release.
The bottom is the Criterion.
The Criterion looks cropped.
There may be reasons, but this is a concern (I didn't bother to fiddle with the image size).





I just watched this on iTunes. It looks like the top image. It may have been filmed that way but its distracting. The cobra head laser stops short of the edge of the screen. So its like its firing range is only a hundred feet. The other version seems to be cropped so it appears the laser fires "off screen" and passed the viewers line of vision and appears to has a much longer reach.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I just watched this on iTunes. It looks like the top image. It may have been filmed that way but its distracting. The cobra head laser stops short of the edge of the screen. So its like its firing range is only a hundred feet. The other version seems to be cropped so it appears the laser fires "off screen" and passed the viewers line of vision and appears to has a much longer reach.

I hope the border areas didn't look like the top pic. If it did, I would doubt it was the HD version.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

After comparing the two the Criterion Blu-ray seems brighter to me too.

That's odd. If you have a computer, and open both pic links so they are in the same place, and toggle between them, they look different? I wonder why they look identical on my monitor.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/large/large_04_war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray___blu-ray_.jpg
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/criterion_blu-ray_/large/large_04_war_of_worlds_criterion_blu-ray__blu-ray_.jpg



Hmm. They look the same to me too.


Yep, looking at those two links they ARE identical. As for the covers artwork, I admit the claw poster isn't really true to anything in the movie itself, but none of the more accurate film posters look as good or professional. I find the claw one very dramatic. The menu for the Criterion is TERRIBLE! I get it, just don't like it. The eye colour order is neither here nor there. I wonder why they do this artwork for a company so devoted to accurate presentation everywhere else (an obviously content on the disc is the main main point).

Despite a friend of mine describing it as boring, I like the Network approach with the right livery (as used in a tv series/film titles and official advertising) used everywhere. Nerdy maybe but aren't we all on here? Just seems more appropriate and authentic to me to use graphics from the material's original release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

The screen shots on this link comparing the two, the Criterion edition is definitely brighter. I’m not sure I will see the difference in a movie that is 67 years old. I don’t own two 60 inch TVs to compare them side by side I can only go by the photos on the review page. I will end up buying both editions. The only other movie that I purchased both of the Blu-rays that were released is The Shape of Things to Come. Supposedly there were differences in those two and one was released a year before the other.


http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_126/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray.htm

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

The screen shots on this link comparing the two, the Criterion edition is definitely brighter. I’m not sure I will see the difference in a movie that is 67 years old. I don’t own two 60 inch TVs to compare them side by side I can only go by the photos on the review page. I will end up buying both editions. The only other movie that I purchased both of the Blu-rays that were released is The Shape of Things to Come. Supposedly there were differences in those two and one was released a year before the other.


http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_126/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray.htm


Yes, that's what I was looking at before too, and we can definitely make out peoples faces are a tiny bit lighter can't we? The shots of the war machines don't show it but the skin colour does. But as you say, watching it on tv will be fine. The only way there is if we were crazy enough to watch both at the same time. That's a whole lot more picky. I'm satisfied I've got a good copy and that's all that really matters. Would be nice for both to have all the extras, but you pays your money and takes your choice..

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The screen shots on this link comparing the two, the Criterion edition is definitely brighter. I’m not sure I will see the difference in a movie that is 67 years old. I don’t own two 60 inch TVs to compare them side by side I can only go by the photos on the review page. I will end up buying both editions. The only other movie that I purchased both of the Blu-rays that were released is The Shape of Things to Come. Supposedly there were differences in those two and one was released a year before the other.


http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_126/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray.htm


Chris and Paul, the Dvdbeaver review is what we've been using all along. You can see the Dvdbeaver URL in both image links I posted earlier. On Dvdbeaver, if you open each image in a new tab and compare them, they're identical.
Sometimes images will look darker if they're in a different part of a monitor. That's why it's important to look at both images in the same spot.
Here's another matching pair from the review. The subtitles are different, which is helpful to distinguish between releases, but again the prints look the same. Open each in a new tab, and toggle between them.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/large/large__subs_01_war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray___blu-ray_.jpg
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/criterion_blu-ray_/large/large__subs_01_war_of_worlds_criterion_blu-ray__blu-ray_.jpg

It would be helpful to post the URL's for a pair of images that show the brightness difference.

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I just watched this on iTunes. It looks like the top image. It may have been filmed that way but its distracting. The cobra head laser stops short of the edge of the screen. So its like its firing range is only a hundred feet. The other version seems to be cropped so it appears the laser fires "off screen" and passed the viewers line of vision and appears to has a much longer reach.

I hope the border areas didn't look like the top pic. If it did, I would doubt it was the HD version.


Yes, I have the HD version from iTunes. And the laser cuts off short. It was probably the best they could do optically at the time. MY version has the "blue" Mars as well.

I don't see any brightness difference in the DVD Beaver screen grabs either.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

The screen shots on this link comparing the two, the Criterion edition is definitely brighter. I’m not sure I will see the difference in a movie that is 67 years old. I don’t own two 60 inch TVs to compare them side by side I can only go by the photos on the review page. I will end up buying both editions. The only other movie that I purchased both of the Blu-rays that were released is The Shape of Things to Come. Supposedly there were differences in those two and one was released a year before the other.


http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_126/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray.htm


Chris and Paul, the Dvdbeaver review is what we've been using all along. You can see the Dvdbeaver URL in both image links I posted earlier. On Dvdbeaver, if you open each image in a new tab and compare them, they're identical.
Sometimes images will look darker if they're in a different part of a monitor. That's why it's important to look at both images in the same spot.
Here's another matching pair from the review. The subtitles are different, which is helpful to distinguish between releases, but again the prints look the same. Open each in a new tab, and toggle between them.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/large/large__subs_01_war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray___blu-ray_.jpg
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/110/war_of_the_worlds_blu-ray_/criterion_blu-ray_/large/large__subs_01_war_of_worlds_criterion_blu-ray__blu-ray_.jpg

It would be helpful to post the URL's for a pair of images that show the brightness difference.



Dave the images are the same on these two but they are not the same on the review page. I don’t know what to say. Like I said I will by both and don’t think it’s going to be a big deal with a movie released in 1953.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2020 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Coincidentally Barnes and Noble is having a 50% off sale. I phoned a store and had them hold a copy, watched it last night. I'm never sure if HD will change my experience of something I've seen several times, but in this case the restoration definitely made it worth the upgrade. I only have a 32" TV so I didn't see any issues, except banding in the sky at 37.20 minutes when a tank is disintegrated.

I only have the TV's 2 back speakers, but the 5.1 sound-recreation (by Ben Burtt) sounds better than the mono. The music is slightly more prominent, but he also creates a fake stereo with louder effects which positively punched up the film without changing the content in general. But there was one notable instance (to my ears) that didn't sound right...
In the original mono, the pre-firing strum fx (plucked cello string?) for the heat ray was missing when the plane drops a flare. It's inconsistent with earlier scenes, possibly a mistake, so he added the strum to match the blinking. But that sounds inconsistent with earlier scenes, too. Normally the strum starts earlier with a longer fast-repeat section. Would have sounded better if Burtt had at least started it earlier.

Otherwise pretty amazing effort to re-vamp the audio. Toggling between the audio channels is like night and day, where the new audio really increases the impact of the film.

There's 2 short video doc's with the sound and video restoration guys which was interesting.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2020 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Coincidentally Barnes and Noble is having a 50% off sale. I phoned a store and had them hold a copy

Thanks for the heads up! It out of stock online, but available at my local store.

Edit: Well no luck! I checked online and it said there were copies at my local B&N. When I got down there I couldn't find any copies. I asked the front desk and they said they sold out in the morning and didn't expect to get more in before the sale ends. mad

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

SOLIUM:

I tried to order WOTW on Saturday morning, bit it was out of stock. It was back in stock online late Saturday night, so I ordered it.
I suggest you check every few hours to see if it's back in stock.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

SOLIUM:

I tried to order WOTW on Saturday morning, bit it was out of stock. It was back in stock online late Saturday night, so I ordered it.
I suggest you check every few hours to see if it's back in stock.


Thxs, I just checked and it says temporarily out of stock again. I'll keep trying all day as time permits.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Can you order it and have it sent to your store (so no shipping cost)?

Btw, I did say I phoned the store to hold a copy. I don't trust a store's own database, let alone online, to accurately indicate what's in the store. In this case, those copies might be on the hold shelf for other people.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Can you order it and have it sent to your store (so no shipping cost)?

Btw, I did say I phoned the store to hold a copy. I don't trust a store's own database, let alone online, to accurately indicate what's in the store. In this case, those copies might be on the hold shelf for other people.


Yes, the online store has an option to pick it up locally. Just gotta hope it comes back in-stock online so I can nab it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

SOLIUM:

WOTW is back in stock online now. (2:33 pm CST).

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

SOLIUM:

WOTW is back in stock online now. (2:33 pm CST).


SUCCESS! Just got it! Thanks for the heads up. Lucky thing this was my day off so I could lurk online this afternoon.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2020 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It'll probably get yanked for copyright, but here's a sound fx comparison I mentioned earlier, at 7 seconds versus 33 seconds. The restoration adds a nice impact fx when the heat ray hits the viewer at 44 seconds (and of course, loads of effects in stereo).
The colors are really beautiful, video super sharp. Really rooting for the Martians in this version.

 
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