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 Posted:   Aug 2, 2019 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Through a Glass Darkly (1961) 7.5/10 (up from 6/10)

Through a Glass Darkly could have easily been an embarrassing disaster had it not been for Harriet Andersson (Karin), whose magnificent performance is the film’s centerpiece. Films dealing with mental illness often have cringeworthy, over-the-top performances, but Andersson does so well in making her character unbalanced, but also painfully aware of her deteriorating condition.

Andersson looks stunning, even when her character is in the throes of schizophrenia. She is no less a beautiful goddess than she was eight years prior at age 21 when her sensuality captivated the world in Summer with Monika (1953). Why she isn't better remembered as a 1950s sex symbol is beyond me.

Andersson's features have become more angular, but that angularity perfectly suits the character, who’s gone through the hell of mental illness and even worse, early ‘60s mental health “treatment.”

The religious themes are also well handled, but they do not resonate for this nonbeliever. However, any notion of spiritual strength fares better with the positive-leaning family dynamic revealed at the film’s conclusion.

Through a Glass Darkly's best scene is when Martin (Max Von Sydow) calmly tears into David (Gunnar Björnstrand) with knowing and pointed criticisms. David is a would-be novelist who is a selfish, emotionally-distant person with his own inner torment; Björnstrand's character has to be a Bergman surrogate.

I’ve read criticisms of the young son, Minus (Lars Passgård), but he more than held his own alongside those Bergman heavyweights.

There’s a brilliant use of Johann Sebastian Bach’s Sarabande, Cello Suite No. 2 in D Minor (performed by Erling Blöndal Bengtsson). Bergman scholar Peter Cowie notes the idea of the film’s four performers working off of one another much like a string quartet.

Through a Glass Darkly won the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film of 1961. It was Bergman’s second consecutive Oscar (The Virgin Spring won for 1960).

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The aforementioned pop group The Ocean Blue's 1996 album, See The Ocean Blue uses an image from Persona as its front cover. I vaguely remember this as I was a casual fan of their music (but a worshipper of their 1989 debut album).



1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Summer Interlude (1951) 8.5/10 (up from 4/10)

Summer Interlude's embittered protagonist, ballerina Marie, (Maj-Britt Nilsson) brings to mind Bergman's subsequent film Wild Strawberries (1957). Maj-Britt Nilsson is initially not believable and too mature for 13 years ago flashbacks, but within minutes her performance playing a 16-year-old of the era completely convinces. Britt looks totally different in her embittered ballerina present day than she does as sweet and fresh-faced girl.

Sparkling summer lake. Marie rowing makes it look idyllic. Sweden in summertime is its own world. Love the summer house upon the lake.

Bergman focuses on Marie (Britt) as protagonist. No other Bergman actress could have pulled this off like Maj Britt.

Uncle Erland is such a sleazeball; I hope I never become like him. wink

The brief shots of the jetty at dusk are the film’s most beautiful visuals. The fireworks going off add to the idyllic--idyllic--idyllic-idyllic--summer. Bergman makes summer in Sweden to be the greatest time of year.

The animated sequence on the record sleeve(!) is clever and surreal.

In contrast, moments in Summer Interlude--acting and music--bring to mind contemporaneous Hollywood movies, but then something Swedish happens involving sensuality or innuendo-laced dialogue and the viewer is drawn right back into the Bergmanverse.

Death is mentioned as a proper noun; The Seventh Seal is still six years away. The preacher in this film later plays the painter in that most classic of Bergman films.

Summer Interlude is a near-perfect film complete with depth, pathos, regret, and the everlasting memory of youthful romance.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

How do you remember something like that?

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

How do you remember something like that?


During the '90s, I would occasionally get into a "world cinema" mood. I was briefly in such a mood in 1996.

The Seventh Seal also boasts truly memorable imagery. I didn't appreciate its other strengths until much later.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

How do you remember something like that?


Sometimes an experience is formative. I can remember the first time I saw a Bergman film. It was 1965 and I was about to enter college (CCNY). Somehow I sensed a need to broaden my horizons. Bergman was "in the air" in those days. Specifically, the father of one of my friends was an actor (Michael Higgins, 1920-2008), and his apartment was full of enticing objects that bespoke a rarefied world of high art. I recall a statue of Hamlet with the skull and a still from The Seventh Seal. The Eighth Street Cinema was running a Bergman series, and the very neighborhood -- Greenwich Village in its heyday -- exuded sophistication. There was a double feature: Wild Strawberries and The Seventh Seal. I arrived late for Wild Strawberries. Victor Sjöström was walking into the frame and the audience applauded. Why? I had no clue. I had never heard of this famous actor-director. But I knew that something important was happening and I resolved to find out more.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

How do you remember something like that?


I remember the 1st Bergman film I saw (The Magician) was a VHS tape rental during mid-1989 (late May/early June, I think).

How does one remember such? I'm unable to explain it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Blimey ...zardoz wandering over this side ...did u take a wrong turn? Ha ha

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2019 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Blimey ...zardoz wandering over this side ...did u take a wrong turn? Ha ha

Yup. My stone head has travelled through the Vortex before!

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Sometimes an experience is formative.

That's it. In my case, watching The Seventh Seal definitely was, as you call it, a formative experience. The existentialist dialogue and even the humor (Björnstrand's interactions with everyone) may not have made the lasting impressions at the time, but their roles in forming the film's atmosphere and the visuals have stayed with me all these years.

In seeing it a few times recently, the power of the visuals remain, but the things that didn't make their presence known at the time are now quite obvious so the film is all the more enlightening for it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

1996 was also the year I watched my first Bergman film (The Seventh Seal).

How do you remember something like that?


During the '90s, I would occasionally get into a "world cinema" mood. I was briefly in such a mood in 1996.

The Seventh Seal also boasts truly memorable imagery. I didn't appreciate its other strengths until much later.



I was hoping you'd say that it was all written down in a little black book.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I was hoping you'd say that it was all written down in a little black book.

I wish I had kept a diary during those days.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Speaking of things Bergman, has Max von Sydow ever received an honorary Oscar? He's long overdue.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Having not read it for years, but always liking its insights, I ordered a copy of John Simon's film review collection "Something to Declare" from Amazon and have been diving into it this past week. "..Declare" is a companion volume to Simon's "Reverse Angle" - "Reverse" covers his reviews of American movies of the 1970s, "Declare" non-American films (primarily European) of the same period.

Simon was one of Bergman's foremost champions - his interview/analysis book "Ingmar Bergman Directs," which covers Bergman's movies up to the end of the 1960s (focusing on a few of his best, such as The Naked Night and Persona), is a must for any Bergman student. (Vernon Young's "Cinema Borealis: Ingmar Bergman and the Swedish Ethos," published the same year, offers an interesting perspective as well.)

Simon praised Bergman's films of the 1950s and the 1960s - his reviews of Bergman's 1970s work in "Something to Declare" charts what Simon considers Bergman's decline. Even the Swedish director's most highly celebrated works of this period - Cries and Whispers, The Magic Flute, Autumn Sonata - are not considered up to the level of Bergman's best, despite their good points. Simon tries to find virtues in the fascinatingly weird - but critically savaged - 1977 The Serpent's Egg, but has to admit that Bergman is out of his depth with the political and surreal aspects of its story.

In a later book, Simon is also not bowled over by Bergman's 1980s "comeback" film, Fanny and Alexander. While I agree that Bergman pretty much peaked in the late 1960s with Persona and Shame, his later work is still worth watching (although I need to rewatch the complete Scenes From a Marriage, which I didn't "get into" when I tried it before.)

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2019 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Hubert Cohen's Ingmar Bergman: The Art of Confession was a book I frequently read in the library, but never owned myself. In those pre-internet years, I found it particularly useful with its detailed descriptions of the films as well as the author's analysis of Bergman's themes and characters. I wonder if the book holds up today.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 3:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Simon praised Bergman's films of the 1950s and the 1960s - his reviews of Bergman's 1970s work in "Something to Declare" charts what Simon considers Bergman's decline. Even the Swedish director's most highly celebrated works of this period - Cries and Whispers, The Magic Flute, Autumn Sonata - are not considered up to the level of Bergman's best, despite their good points. Simon tries to find virtues in the fascinatingly weird - but critically savaged - 1977 The Serpent's Egg, but has to admit that Bergman is out of his depth with the political and surreal aspects of its story.

I'll admit that I am hesitant to step out of that 1950s-'60s Bergman "zone" at the moment. Not because of one critic's opinion that those are lesser works, but because those Bergman films reward the viewer with repeated viewings. I'm aure the 1970s works would have me returning to those had I started out with those and worked back.

Having said that, I am looking forward to Fanny and Alexander. The Brits must still get a chuckle out of that title. wink

BTW, I could swear that when I was maybe 11 or so, a friend rented the VHS of The Serpent's Egg and we watched it. I guess I'll find out when I get to it...perhaps it will fire up the olde fading memory o' mine.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



Having said that, I am looking forward to Fanny and Alexander. The Brits must still get a chuckle out of that title. wink




Why - because we're shallow and smutty? Pretty poor form that, Jim.



(Heh, Fanny!)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Why - because we're shallow and smutty? Pretty poor form that, Jim.
(Heh, Fanny!)


Bollocks! Wot a cock-up ... oi, Tall Guy?

Bit of a sticky wicket.

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Oooh matron...!

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2019 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

.www.cinemaretro.com
has a Bergie article up.

 
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